installing Ubuntu with X and no assistance

2007-01-21 Thread Labrador
Hi,

I'm new to this forum.

A few months ago a sighted friend helped me with installing on his 
demo-pc some Ubuntu distribution with Gnopernicus.
But should there be a way to do the same without any assistance ? 

Does the latest Ubuntu Edgy Eft come with Orca ? Or only Gnopernicus ?

Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks.

Greetings,

Labrador

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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Duddington
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   2.  What happens if you send the speech output to a WAV file?
  
  Again, nothing useful.  I think eSpeak is actually creating an
  invalid wav file.

 I get the same behavior.

What architecture and OS is this on?
Is the byte order different from i386?
Have you ever had eSpeak working on it, or do you know anyone who has?

 Jonathan, I have come to the conclusion that the phoneme data as well
 as dictionaries need to be rebuilt, to suit the architecture the
 package is being built on. I notice that the espeakedit package has
 the routines to compile the phoneme data, but unfortunately one has
 to have a GUI running to use the --compile flag of the binary.

Are you sure?
What happens if you run  espeakedit --compile  or  espeakedit --help ?
Is there an error message?
I've run my system (MEPIS 6, which is a KDE/Ubuntu distro) in
failsafe mode, which I think means no GUI, and I can do
  espeakedit --compile
OK.

 Is it possible to separate out the phoneme compile routines to a
 separate binary, independant of any GUI libraries? If so, would you
 mind sending them to me, so I can use them to ensure all
 architectures ship with the correct voice and phoneme data?

Are you able to build the espeakedit program and compile the
espeak-data with it?
Does eSpeak then speak OK?

The espeakedit program uses wxWidgets data types.  It will take a bit
of work to convert the phoneme compile routines so that they don't use
them.


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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:14:27PM EST, Jonathan Duddington wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
2.  What happens if you send the speech output to a WAV file?
   
   Again, nothing useful.  I think eSpeak is actually creating an
   invalid wav file.
 
  I get the same behavior.
 
 What architecture and OS is this on?

I got the same behavior on Ubuntu Edgy powerpc.

 Is the byte order different from i386?

I think it is, but I couldn't be sure of that.

 Have you ever had eSpeak working on it, or do you know anyone who has?

Don't know anybody who has had espeak working on powerpc, and never 
tried it previously.

  Jonathan, I have come to the conclusion that the phoneme data as well
  as dictionaries need to be rebuilt, to suit the architecture the
  package is being built on. I notice that the espeakedit package has
  the routines to compile the phoneme data, but unfortunately one has
  to have a GUI running to use the --compile flag of the binary.
 
 Are you sure?
 What happens if you run  espeakedit --compile  or  espeakedit --help ?
 Is there an error message?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/espeak-data$ ../espeakedit-1.18/src/espeakedit --compile
Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/espeak-data$ ../espeakedit-1.18/src/espeakedit --help
Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

 I've run my system (MEPIS 6, which is a KDE/Ubuntu distro) in
 failsafe mode, which I think means no GUI, and I can do
   espeakedit --compile
 OK.

The above two commands were run on an i386 Ubuntu Edgy box, with no GUI 
running, and only minimum libraries installed to build the espeakedit 
binary.

  Is it possible to separate out the phoneme compile routines to a
  separate binary, independant of any GUI libraries? If so, would you
  mind sending them to me, so I can use them to ensure all
  architectures ship with the correct voice and phoneme data?
 
 Are you able to build the espeakedit program and compile the
 espeak-data with it?

I can build the espeakedit program, but as stated above, I cannot build 
the espeak data with it.

 Does eSpeak then speak OK?

If I could build the phoneme data successfully, I'd say that it very 
likely would. I don't have any GUI installed and running on my powerpc 
machine either, as it is mainly for server use.

 The espeakedit program uses wxWidgets data types.  It will take a bit
 of work to convert the phoneme compile routines so that they don't use
 them.

Ok I thought as much.
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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, le Sun 21 Jan 2007 22:58:57 +1100, a écrit :
  Is the byte order different from i386?
 
 I think it is, but I couldn't be sure of that.

It is different indeed: ppc is big endian.

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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Duddington
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got the same behavior on Ubuntu Edgy powerpc.

  What happens if you run  espeakedit --compile  or  espeakedit
  --help ? Is there an error message?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/espeak-data$ ../espeakedit-1.18/src/espeakedit --help
 Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

OK.  I need to make a command line program with the compile phoneme
routines, but which does not use wxWidgets.

Do I have a deadline?


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Gaim Buddy List

2007-01-21 Thread Keith Watson
All,

I understand that tables are in a state of flux right now. But is 
anyone besides me having an issue with the buddy list in gaim not 
being visible?

Keith

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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Duddington
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Al Puzzuoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My PPC box is running the GUI; so what would be involved in
 recompiling the data?  Is it just a matter of installing the
 espeakedit program and issuing a command line?

First I must check for other byte-order dependencies, and make some
changes to the espeakedit program. I will let you know when it's ready
to try.

You will need to compile the  espeakedit  program, which shouldn't be a
problem.  You'll need the wxWidgets libraries, but these may already be
installed if you are running Ubuntu.  You need the packages:
libwxgtk2.6 and libwxgtk2.6-dev.

Once it's compiled, hopefully you will be able to just do:
  epseakedit --compile

and eSpeak will then be able speak OK.


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need some info about the alternative cd

2007-01-21 Thread mike coulombe
Hi, has any accessibility been added to the alternative CD.
If so how do you start the screen reader.
 Also has anyone installed the feisty live CD lately.
I am still having a problem after picking the keyboard everything blows up very 
large on the screen and it seems to crash.
Thanks Mike.
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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Duddington
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Jonathan Duddington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First I must check for other byte-order dependencies, and make some
 changes to the espeakedit program. I will let you know when it's ready
 to try.

 Once it's compiled, hopefully you will be able to just do:
   epseakedit --compile

 and eSpeak will then be able speak OK.

I think the espeakedit program may be able to run on PPC and compile
the phoneme data.

  espeakedit --compile

will compile both the phoneme data and the dictionary data, if it finds
the source data in the expected places, for which the defaults are:
  espeak-data/phsource
  espeak-data/dictsource

Let me know whether it works.


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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Duddington
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If Al can get the data compiled and sent to me, that should be good
 enough for now, as I don't see the chances of espeak being used on
 ia64 and sparc being very high, but for the future, we need a more
 perminant solution that will allow all architectures to have the
 correct byte ordering.

I've seen reports of eSpeak working OK on ia64.  The data should be
binary compatible with i386.

For example, here is a reported bug which I fixed for version 1.17
  http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3991770


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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Al Puzzuoli
Upon attempting to compile the phoneme data, I'm getting the following, if 
there is anything I can do at my end, please let me know:


Script started on Sun 21 Jan 2007 08:25:37 PM EST
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# espeakedit --compile

GTK Accessibility Module initialized

Compiling phoneme data: /home/alpuzz/espeak-data/phsource/

Unknown phoneme table: 'en'

Unknown phoneme table: 'ru'

Unknown phoneme table: 'es'

Unknown phoneme table: 'cy'

Unknown phoneme table: 'nl'

Unknown phoneme table: 'pl'

Unknown phoneme table: 'de'

Unknown phoneme table: 'vi'

Unknown phoneme table: 'hi'

Unknown phoneme table: 'af'

Unknown phoneme table: 'sv'

Unknown phoneme table: 'no'

Unknown phoneme table: 'en'

Unknown phoneme table: 'ro'

Unknown phoneme table: 'eo'

Unknown phoneme table: 'fi'

Unknown phoneme table: 'pt'

Unknown phoneme table: 'it'

Unknown phoneme table: 'fr'

Unknown phoneme table: 'el'

Unknown phoneme table: 'en'

Compiled phonemes: 477 errors. See 'error.log'. Dictionary errors: ru 642, 
es 367, cy 508, nl 393, pl 195, de 2478, vi 476, hi 403, af 2670, sv 680, no 
163, en 19361, ro 1074, eo 324, fi 769, pt 1376, it 994, fr 3044, el 541,

*** stack smashing detected ***: espeakedit terminated

Aborted (core dumped)

]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# exit


Script done on Sun 21 Jan 2007 08:26:40 PM EST


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Duddington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture


 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Luke Yelavich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If Al can get the data compiled and sent to me, that should be good
 enough for now, as I don't see the chances of espeak being used on
 ia64 and sparc being very high, but for the future, we need a more
 perminant solution that will allow all architectures to have the
 correct byte ordering.

 I've seen reports of eSpeak working OK on ia64.  The data should be
 binary compatible with i386.

 For example, here is a reported bug which I fixed for version 1.17
  http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3991770


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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:23:39AM EST, Jonathan Duddington wrote:
 I think the espeakedit program may be able to run on PPC and compile
 the phoneme data.
 
   espeakedit --compile
 
 will compile both the phoneme data and the dictionary data, if it finds
 the source data in the expected places, for which the defaults are:
   espeak-data/phsource
   espeak-data/dictsource
 
 Let me know whether it works.

Ok. The following steps were carried out on two different boxes, one 
powerpc, and one i386. I managed to get X forwarding set up on my 
powerpc, so that espeakedit can run. Here is what I did.

* Unpacked fresh directories of both zip files, espeak-1.18-source.zip, 
and espeakedit-1.18.zip.
* Created an empty espeak-data directory in my home directory, and 
copied the voices directory into it, from the 
espeak-1.18-source/espeak-data directory.
* Copied dictsource from espeak-1.18 into espeak-data.
* Copied the phsource directory from espeakedit-1.18 into the 
espeak-data directory I previously created.
* Built a fresh binary of espeakedit, and moved it to 
my home directory.
* Entered the espeak-data directory, which as previously stated, only 
has the voices, phsource, and dictsource directories.
* Ran the command: ~/espeakedit --compile 

Attached are two log files, from both attempted compile runs. Notice the 
vast difference in output. The other difference is that the *_dict files 
are built on powerpc, and only the phoneme datafiles are present on 
i386. However, i386 has correctly built phoneme data, and powerpc 
doesn't, as evident from the Unknown phoneme table message when 
compiling, and also when I attempt to make espeak say something.

Please let me know if you need any clarrification on what I have 
outlined above, and I hope these log files are useful.
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Compiling phoneme data: /home/luke/espeak-data/phsource/
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/en_dict'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/en_dict'
Compiled phonemes: 0 errors. Compiled 0 dictionaries
Compiling phoneme data: /home/luke/espeak-data/phsource/
Unknown phoneme table: 'en'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/en_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'af'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/af_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'cy'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/cy_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'de'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/de_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'el'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/el_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'en'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/en_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'eo'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/eo_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'es'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/es_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'fi'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/fi_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'fr'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/fr_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'hi'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/hi_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'it'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/it_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'nl'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/nl_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'no'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/no_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'pl'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/pl_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'pt'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/pt_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'ro'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/ro_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'ru'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/ru_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'sv'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/sv_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'vi'
Can't read dictionary file: '/home/luke/espeak-data/vi_dict'
Unknown phoneme table: 'en'
Compiled phonemes: 477 errors. See 'error.log'. Dictionary errors: af 2670, cy 
508, de 2478, el 541, en 19361, eo 324, es 367, fi 769, fr 3044, hi 403, it 
994, nl 393, no 163, pl 195, pt 1376, ro 1074, ru 642, sv 680, vi 476, 
*** stack smashing detected ***: /home/luke/espeakedit terminated
Aborted
__
Phoneme Table: 'base'
167: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'vowel/@'
175: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'vowel/@-'
188: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'ustop/percus10'
198: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'j/j@'
199: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'j2/j2@'
200: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'w/w@'
201: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'l/l@'
203: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'l^/j2@'
204: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'r/r@'
205: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'r2/r2@'
206: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'm/m@'
207: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'n/n@'
208: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'nn/nn@'
209: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'n^/n^@'
210: File not SPEC or RIFF: 'l/[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
211: File not SPEC or RIFF: