Re: problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
Hi: > The problem is that sighted persons who sometimes totally ignore anything > about magnifying+orca so when demonstrating it, they simply get into panic > and they had to restart gnome brutally with ctrl+alt+backspace. The demographic this request is catering to is a small percentage of users: the ignorant demoer with good intentions. I'll admit we should try to make things nicer for them, though. I think I need to better understand how the user got into this situation. How did the person enable magnification? What button did they press or checkbox did they check or command did they run? > Does you see the stop or exit button or something like that when the > magnifier is active ? WellAlt+F4 is out of the question. That's for killing windows with focus. I suppose we could make up a new command, but we already have one -- Insert+Space to bring up the Orca Preferences dialog. If the user knows that, they already know a bit about Orca, though. The Orca main window typically appears by default and the user usually has to go out of their way to disable it. So, I guess I need to know more about what the user did to start Orca+magnifier and what, if any, windows appears on the desktop. Will -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 02:42:56PM -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > Hi: > > Alt+F4 means to close/kill the currently focused window. The magnifier > really isn't a window that gets focus, so pressing Alt+F4 will kill the > window that has focus (e.g., your e-mail application, like I just did > when I couldn't remember what Alt+F4 did). > > Killing the magnifier is similar to killing speech: you need to exit > Orca or tell Orca to stop magnifying the window. The problem is that sighted persons who sometimes totally ignore anything about magnifying+orca so when demonstrating it, they simply get into panic and they had to restart gnome brutally with ctrl+alt+backspace. I'm ignoring myself how to stop the magnifier/orca, so my wife also did that error and she wasn't able to stop it, except by opening a console and doing a sudo reboot Isn't there any simple way of resolving this problem so that people doesn't have to search for how to stop the thing after they just demonstrate it with good intensions of course ? Does you see the stop or exit button or something like that when the magnifier is active ? Y P -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
Hi: Alt+F4 means to close/kill the currently focused window. The magnifier really isn't a window that gets focus, so pressing Alt+F4 will kill the window that has focus (e.g., your e-mail application, like I just did when I couldn't remember what Alt+F4 did). Killing the magnifier is similar to killing speech: you need to exit Orca or tell Orca to stop magnifying the window. Will Labrador wrote: > Hi, > > I saw wednsday a demo of the latest Ubuntu Gutsy distro. > Some blind person in the room asked to demonstrate the Accessibility part, > and the guy did it; > > but just like at home where my wife uses Feisty it was impossible to stop > the magnifyer with ALT+F4 or so, > > so the demonstrator had to restart Gnome: > > is this a hidden feature ? or is this a bug ? and so, if yes, it would be > very nice to fix this or to resolve this problem in a simple and intuitive > way (why not using ALT+F4) to close magnification. > Anyway the problem was still present while already present under Feisty, the > previous Ubuntu. > > Labrad0r > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
Hi, I saw wednsday a demo of the latest Ubuntu Gutsy distro. Some blind person in the room asked to demonstrate the Accessibility part, and the guy did it; but just like at home where my wife uses Feisty it was impossible to stop the magnifyer with ALT+F4 or so, so the demonstrator had to restart Gnome: is this a hidden feature ? or is this a bug ? and so, if yes, it would be very nice to fix this or to resolve this problem in a simple and intuitive way (why not using ALT+F4) to close magnification. Anyway the problem was still present while already present under Feisty, the previous Ubuntu. Labrad0r -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: can orca be set different for each ap
Hi Mike: Currently, I don't believe Orca supports this. But, there is a related enhancement request to do so: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373078 Will mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, can the preferences for orca like rate be set different for each ap. For > example a slower rate in openoffice. > I didn't see anything in the settings regarding this, but I remember someone > mentioned this several months ago. > Mike. > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
