Re: retrieving synthesized auio data?
hello Bill, Here is my answer for those not subscribed to speechd mailinglist. - hi Jacob and Luke, @Jacob do you need the audio data for further processing? Or do you need only creating wave files from the synthesized text? Maybe a good start is to add a dummy audio output driver in speechd which writes it's output data into a fifo or better directly to a wave file. This wouldn't need any api work and could be implemented (in my opinion) really fast and without much work! @Luke: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:04:00PM -0800, Luke Yelavich wrote: I intend to write up some roadmap/specification documentation as to what I would like to work on with speech-dispatcher next. I think first, we get a 0.6.8 release out the door, then start thinking what needs major work, to ensure speech-dispatcher is still usable both as a system service for those who want it, and for the ever changing multi-user desktop environment. Consider making pulse optional for ubuntu will solve this problem without any new line code. One such idea I have, is to consider dbus as a client/server communication transport layer. This could even go so far as to solve the issue of using system level clients like BrlTTY with a system level speech-dispatcher, which would then communicate with a user level speech-dispatcher for example. Luke! It's only an issue because you and other prefer the wrong audio system. i hope one day you start thinking about other stuff to do for speech-dispatcher than the . user session integration. The decision to use pulseaudio (only) for ubuntu produced tons of mails from many unhappy users in orca/speechd/ubuntu accessibility mailinglists. Allmost every day some people asking howto use sd as system service etc. BTW.: it works really well this way! Starting paralel process and let them communicate through dbus will add more and more and more overhead to speechd and it's deppendencies. And it will only produce new issues without bringing really new features instead of complexity. Many other audio apps needs to be rewritten to be compatible with this new approach. Thx to PA for this. Just wondering: Are you using these system level apps like speakup/brltty for your daily work? Just my two cents. Halim PS.: it doesn't make sense to ignore the user wishes in this area. Read the mailinglists and talk with the people who are not able to use pulse with speechd. Talk also with other a11y projects and speechd users if they want dbus dependency or dealing with consolekit and possibly other kits. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: retrieving synthesized auio data?
hello Bill, Here is my answer for those not subscribed to speechd mailinglist. - hi Jacob and Luke, @Jacob do you need the audio data for further processing? Or do you need only creating wave files from the synthesized text? Maybe a good start is to add a dummy audio output driver in speechd which writes it's output data into a fifo or better directly to a wave file. This wouldn't need any api work and could be implemented (in my opinion) really fast and without much work! @Luke: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:04:00PM -0800, Luke Yelavich wrote: I intend to write up some roadmap/specification documentation as to what I would like to work on with speech-dispatcher next. I think first, we get a 0.6.8 release out the door, then start thinking what needs major work, to ensure speech-dispatcher is still usable both as a system service for those who want it, and for the ever changing multi-user desktop environment. Consider making pulse optional for ubuntu will solve this problem without any new line code. One such idea I have, is to consider dbus as a client/server communication transport layer. This could even go so far as to solve the issue of using system level clients like BrlTTY with a system level speech-dispatcher, which would then communicate with a user level speech-dispatcher for example. Luke! It's only an issue because you and other prefer the wrong audio system. i hope one day you start thinking about other stuff to do for speech-dispatcher than the . user session integration. The decision to use pulseaudio (only) for ubuntu produced tons of mails from many unhappy users in orca/speechd/ubuntu accessibility mailinglists. Allmost every day some people asking howto use sd as system service etc. BTW.: it works really well this way! Starting paralel process and let them communicate through dbus will add more and more and more overhead to speechd and it's deppendencies. And it will only produce new issues without bringing really new features instead of complexity. Many other audio apps needs to be rewritten to be compatible with this new approach. Thx to PA for this. Just wondering: Are you using these system level apps like speakup/brltty for your daily work? Just my two cents. Halim PS.: it doesn't make sense to ignore the user wishes in this area. Read the mailinglists and talk with the people who are not able to use pulse with speechd. Talk also with other a11y projects and speechd users if they want dbus dependency or dealing with consolekit and possibly other kits. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Wrong audfio system?
:D I have seen a mention of my project by someone who matters. Thanks Luke even if it was in passing. At least someone knows about it. The point of progress is mean to improve the overall experience for users of any system but there is always a time where some users do not see all the benefits immediately of an improved system. I think this is the case of PA. Its time will come for the accessibility field. If it was not forced then coders would sit back and say just din't use it. By being a bit forceful Ubuntu is making the rest of he community keep up with them which is not a bad thing. It just annoys some of us. As far as openSAPI is concerned it already supports wav file output in differing formats out of the box. I am also not adverse to a bit of hard work when it comes to integration into a system, heck I have done a bit of hard work already. But we all prefer an easier life. Keep up the good work all, Tom -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Draft Willie for Ubuntu Accessibility
I don't need to introduce Willie on this forum. If you don't know him and some of his work, you're not involved. Willie is looking for a new job as the result of the Oracle/Sun merger. I've said before that Ubuntu could own the accessibility space with one more full time guy. If that guy is Willie, he'll prove me right. I don't know the situation at Canonical, but getting Willie roped in would be super-huge. RedHat would do great with Willie as well, but I'd rather see his skills go to Ubuntu first, and let Fedora get his work downstream from Ubuntu. Anyone interested in forming a Draft Willie campaign? Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Draft Willie for Ubuntu Accessibility
Hi, Yes, that would be quite awesome! Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 19:05 -0500, Bill Cox wrote: I don't need to introduce Willie on this forum. If you don't know him and some of his work, you're not involved. Willie is looking for a new job as the result of the Oracle/Sun merger. I've said before that Ubuntu could own the accessibility space with one more full time guy. If that guy is Willie, he'll prove me right. I don't know the situation at Canonical, but getting Willie roped in would be super-huge. RedHat would do great with Willie as well, but I'd rather see his skills go to Ubuntu first, and let Fedora get his work downstream from Ubuntu. Anyone interested in forming a Draft Willie campaign? Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Wrong audfio system?
Hi. You are a sighted person who doesn't get it. If you were forced to use an app that turned off your monitor regularly and wouldn't let it work outside of a gnome session, you wouldn't put up with it for a minute. Why do you think it is ok for me to accept such a situation? That's pulseaudio for a blind person running a screen reader. Fix it first before forcing it on the world! Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Draft Willie for Ubuntu Accessibility
- Original Message Anyone interested in forming a Draft Willie campaign? +1 Cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Draft Willie for Ubuntu Accessibility
Willie, check out LWN. You are an awesome coder and we all deeply and sincerely appreciate the work you have done at Sun on Orca. I am sad to hear you are one of the ones who lost their job as a result of the merger. The reason I say check out LWN http://lwn.net is because they have an article today talking about Mozilla donating $10,000 to Gnome for accessibility. Maybe you could even get on at Mozilla? Just a thought, but they seem to care about and have a stake in Orca and accessibility on the Linux desktop. Kind regards and you are in my prayers! Pia On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Bill Cox wrote: I don't need to introduce Willie on this forum. If you don't know him and some of his work, you're not involved. Willie is looking for a new job as the result of the Oracle/Sun merger. I've said before that Ubuntu could own the accessibility space with one more full time guy. If that guy is Willie, he'll prove me right. I don't know the situation at Canonical, but getting Willie roped in would be super-huge. RedHat would do great with Willie as well, but I'd rather see his skills go to Ubuntu first, and let Fedora get his work downstream from Ubuntu. Anyone interested in forming a Draft Willie campaign? Bill -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
