problems with user admin in lucid
Good morning. I discovered when I tried to add a user that the users-admin program is no longer fully accessible from the gui. Orca reads fine until you press enter on add or one of the change buttons. Once you press enter you loose all speech. Is this a known problem? If so, I hope this will be fixed by final release. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible
On 18 February 2010 18:50, Hugh Sasse h...@dmu.ac.uk wrote: I'd suggest that there is a need for people who know more about GNU/Linux accessibility than I do [1] to write about it for a wider audience to get the techniques out there. As a programmer this will benefit you, because you can do [...] as a result of the accessibility hooks being there. Etc. I don't think the problems will start to go away until more people are aware of how easy the easy things are. The difficult things will come later. [1] I don't know much about the programming of accessibility yet. I'm hoping this will change when (if?) I get more time. I hope this article may contribute something here - it's not a 'how to' but more of a pointer to what and who http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/openaccessibility.xml -- Steve Lee OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Steve Lee wrote: I hope this article may contribute something here - it's not a 'how to' but more of a pointer to what and who http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/openaccessibility.xml There are some useful links in there about projects unfamiliar to me. I'll be exploring those further. Thank you. Hugh -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Web Browsing
Hi, a couple of questions .. 1) Is Fire Vox now un-supported (I cannot find anything for 3.6 and 3.7 is in release candidate testing) ? 1a) If no longer supported, is there a Web Reader available that I can use to check to see if my understanding of the various 'standards' actually works ? Thanks, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Web Browsing
For Ubuntu, it's best to use the Orca screen reader with Firefox to see if your web page is accessible, since that's how most users do it. You can start it from the command line with 'orca'. However, there are some current bugs in Orca related to changes in Firefox 3.6, which are being worked on actively. Bill On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, a couple of questions .. 1) Is Fire Vox now un-supported (I cannot find anything for 3.6 and 3.7 is in release candidate testing) ? 1a) If no longer supported, is there a Web Reader available that I can use to check to see if my understanding of the various 'standards' actually works ? Thanks, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Web Browsing
Hi. I have to disagree. Two years ago, Orca provided reasonably good access with Firefox. Over the last 2 years, I've seen Firefox become less and less usable with Orca. It's now to the point where Firefox is my last choice for browzers. I try the page first in elinks. If that doesn't work, I push the link to my Nokia E71. If it can't handle the page, and I really need to read it, I'll use Firefox. I wish Firevox was still being maintained, since it would probably provide better access than Firefox with Orca. Kenny On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 05:10:51PM -0500, Bill Cox wrote: For Ubuntu, it's best to use the Orca screen reader with Firefox to see if your web page is accessible, since that's how most users do it. You can start it from the command line with 'orca'. However, there are some current bugs in Orca related to changes in Firefox 3.6, which are being worked on actively. Bill On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, a couple of questions .. 1) Is Fire Vox now un-supported (I cannot find anything for 3.6 and 3.7 is in release candidate testing) ? 1a) If no longer supported, is there a Web Reader available that I can use to check to see if my understanding of the various 'standards' actually works ? Thanks, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Web Browsing
I'm not sure if I will get a response, but I have asked the last known maintainer of FireVox to let me know what is happening with it re: 3.6 and 3.7 From reading in the past about it, it did seem quite a decent reader (I'm sure you can all tell me if that was true) In terms of accessibilty, please treat me as a complete newcomer. I have orca installed, but as to getting it to work ... PASS .. Is there a set of instructions to 'turn it on' ? And, yes, I'm still looking for a browser that can read web sites. It seems pointless (to me) to complain about sites not being readable, when we don't know what the current 'flavour of the month' is for standards. start rant As I mention in my introduction on assistive web use, it is frustrating for me - but an impossible task for software writers not knowing who, or what, the next standard will be. Maybe it is time the assistive community got together and decided if the rules from 1900, 1990, 2000, 2010 are the ones they actually want us to work to ? Read the top part, and the bottom part of this -- http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=14t=32 Because, until they decide, the code in the middle is meaningless. There is a guy (the author of -- http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=14t=33 ) I've had a chat with him, he's a programmer, he's interested ... Where do I send him ? end rant/ Regards, Phill. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Kenny Hitt ke...@hittsjunk.net wrote: Hi. I have to disagree. Two years ago, Orca provided reasonably good access with Firefox. Over the last 2 years, I've seen Firefox become less and less usable with Orca. It's now to the point where Firefox is my last choice for browzers. I try the page first in elinks. If that doesn't work, I push the link to my Nokia E71. If it can't handle the page, and I really need to read it, I'll use Firefox. I wish Firevox was still being maintained, since it would probably provide better access than Firefox with Orca. Kenny On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 05:10:51PM -0500, Bill Cox wrote: For Ubuntu, it's best to use the Orca screen reader with Firefox to see if your web page is accessible, since that's how most users do it. You can start it from the command line with 'orca'. However, there are some current bugs in Orca related to changes in Firefox 3.6, which are being worked on actively. Bill On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, a couple of questions .. 1) Is Fire Vox now un-supported (I cannot find anything for 3.6 and 3.7 is in release candidate testing) ? 1a) If no longer supported, is there a Web Reader available that I can use to check to see if my understanding of the various 'standards' actually works ? Thanks, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
