Fwd: [Off Topic] sound car
-- Forwarded message -- From: Phill Whiteside Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car To: mk360 Hi mk, had another chat on #ubuntu+1 with cwilli (19:47:01) cwillu_at_work: phillw, get him to file a bug Is what (s)he has asked that you do, so they can look into it. As per the previous chat, they'd rather look into it and get a 'correct' fix, than someone do a 'workaround'. In the additional information part of the bug report, please put on that you are filing the bug report as per a request from #ubuntu+1 you can also put in the name of the person I was chatting to. in your case, from the terminal it will be ubuntu-bug alsa To generate the bug report. You do need to have a launchpad login, but after that, it is pretty much all automatic, it will take details from your computer and attach it to the bug-report for the developers to look into. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:29 PM, mk360 wrote: > First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse > better :). > > I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens... > The model is realtek ALC 880. > > Thanks again. > mk. > - Original Message - From: "Phill Whiteside" > To: "mk360" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car > > > > Hi mk360, >> >> I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what >> was >> said: >> >> (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound >> cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse. >> (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa >> *cwillu cwillu_at_work * >> (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as >> per the instructions and pulse will see it ? >> (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version >> of >> alsa that's already included isn't working? >> (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work >> (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive - >> (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my >> ubuntu >> becouse it was >> (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver >> from the manufacturer, >> (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file >> all >> instructions are >> (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the >> new >> ubuntu systems >> (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. >> (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced >> (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do >> different things >> (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with >> ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ? >> (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is >> what >> talks to applications >> (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already >> checked alsamixer levels? >> (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual >> installation looks quite involed !! >> (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa >> that >> doesn't sound good.. >> (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the >> volume was too low >> (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer >> levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually >> installing it ? >> (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should >> be >> just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and >> the >> sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. >> If >> it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed >> properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be) >> rather than just applying a workaround >> (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the >> bugs don't actually get fixed >> (16:44:23) phillw: . >> (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p >> (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be >> back ;-) >> >> Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have >> another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1 >> >> Regards, >> >> Phill. >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 wrote: >> >>Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was >>> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the >>> manufacturer, >>> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions >>> are >>> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems >>> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. >>> >>> Here is the readme file: >>> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 >>> >>> Linux Source Cod
Lucid updates and hardware
Hi, I updated my lucid installation the past week, but apparently some packages don't work correctly and I lost many support for my hardware like video card. unfortunately one of this is my network card and now I can't update lucid to fix it (fortunately sound system works). I'm downloading the daily alternate cd to try to update from it, but nothing happens, and it is really a bad situation (cdimage.ubuntu sometimes work slow and its require one day to download and when I try the problem continues). Now, I installed other pc to one friend with lucid and this works correctly (well, it have the problem with sound...) so, any suggestions for my pc? if I need to reinstall how can I choose for the blindnes profile? usually I use f2 and 2 to choose spanish, and f5 3 to choose the profile, but I understand this was changed. It is my procedure to update from cd. sudo apt-cdrom add sudo aptitude full-upgrade. Regards, mk. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [Off Topic] sound car
First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse better :). I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens... The model is realtek ALC 880. Thanks again. mk. - Original Message - From: "Phill Whiteside" To: "mk360" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car > Hi mk360, > > I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what > was > said: > > (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound > cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse. > (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa > *cwillu cwillu_at_work * > (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as > per the instructions and pulse will see it ? > (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version > of > alsa that's already included isn't working? > (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work > (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive - > (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my > ubuntu > becouse it was > (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver > from the manufacturer, > (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file > all > instructions are > (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the > new > ubuntu systems > (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. > (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced > (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do > different things > (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with > ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ? > (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is > what > talks to applications > (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already > checked alsamixer levels? > (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual > installation looks quite involed !! > (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa > that > doesn't sound good.. > (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the > volume was too low > (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer > levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually > installing it ? > (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should > be > just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and > the > sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. > If > it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed > properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be) > rather than just applying a workaround > (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the > bugs don't actually get fixed > (16:44:23) phillw: . > (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p > (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be > back ;-) > > Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have > another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1 > > Regards, > > Phill. > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it >> was >> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the >> manufacturer, >> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions >> are >> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems >> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. >> >>Here is the readme file: >> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 >> >> Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec >> >> Support Codec list: >> >> AC97 Codec= >> >> ALC100,100P >> >> ALC200,200P >> >> ALC650D >> >> ALC650E >> >> ALC650F >> >> ALC650 >> >> ALC655 >> >> ALC653 >> >> ALC658 >> >> ALC658D >> >> ALC850 >> >> ALC101 >> >> ALC202 >> >> ALC250 >> >> ALC203 >> >> HD Audio codec >> >> ALC260 >> >> ALC262 >> >> ALC267 >> >> ALC268 >> >> ALC259 >> >> ALC269 >> >> ALC270 >> >> ALC272 >> >> ALC275 >> >> ALC660 >> >> ALC660VD >> >> ALC661 >> >> ALC662 >> >> ALC663 >> >> ALC665 >> >> ALC670 >> >> ALC861 >> >> ALC861VD >> >> ALC880 >> >> ALC882 >> >> ALC883 >> >> ALC885 >> >> ALC888 >> >> ALC889A >> >> ALC892 >> >> Installation: >> >> This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org. >> >> For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit. >> >> For driver installation, please follow below steps. >> >> Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution) >> >> execute >> >> ./install >> >> Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install. >> >> Run commands need to add sudo at first words. >> >> Manual install: >> >> S
Re: [Off Topic] sound car
Hi mk360, I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what was said: (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse. (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa *cwillu cwillu_at_work * (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as per the instructions and pulse will see it ? (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version of alsa that's already included isn't working? (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive - (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do different things (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ? (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is what talks to applications (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already checked alsamixer levels? (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual installation looks quite involed !! (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa that doesn't sound good.. (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the volume was too low (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually installing it ? (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should be just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and the sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. If it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be) rather than just applying a workaround (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the bugs don't actually get fixed (16:44:23) phillw: . (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be back ;-) Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1 Regards, Phill. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was > detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the > manufacturer, > but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are > for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems > with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. > >Here is the readme file: > The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 > > Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec > > Support Codec list: > > AC97 Codec= > > ALC100,100P > > ALC200,200P > > ALC650D > > ALC650E > > ALC650F > > ALC650 > > ALC655 > > ALC653 > > ALC658 > > ALC658D > > ALC850 > > ALC101 > > ALC202 > > ALC250 > > ALC203 > > HD Audio codec > > ALC260 > > ALC262 > > ALC267 > > ALC268 > > ALC259 > > ALC269 > > ALC270 > > ALC272 > > ALC275 > > ALC660 > > ALC660VD > > ALC661 > > ALC662 > > ALC663 > > ALC665 > > ALC670 > > ALC861 > > ALC861VD > > ALC880 > > ALC882 > > ALC883 > > ALC885 > > ALC888 > > ALC889A > > ALC892 > > Installation: > > This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org. > > For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit. > > For driver installation, please follow below steps. > > Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution) > > execute > > ./install > > Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install. > > Run commands need to add sudo at first words. > > Manual install: > > Step 1. unzip source code > > tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2 > > Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config > > (soundcore module, default turn on) > > Step 3. Complied source code > > a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx > > b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)<= for HDA options > > c. make > > d. make install > > e. alsaconf > > Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the > distribution > > (Please refer to the attached modules.conf) > > > snd- is the card ID. > > -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 > > --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 - > > snd-hda-intel > > -- AC97 controller -
[Off Topic] sound car
Hi, I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. Here is the readme file: The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec Support Codec list: AC97 Codec= ALC100,100P ALC200,200P ALC650D ALC650E ALC650F ALC650 ALC655 ALC653 ALC658 ALC658D ALC850 ALC101 ALC202 ALC250 ALC203 HD Audio codec ALC260 ALC262 ALC267 ALC268 ALC259 ALC269 ALC270 ALC272 ALC275 ALC660 ALC660VD ALC661 ALC662 ALC663 ALC665 ALC670 ALC861 ALC861VD ALC880 ALC882 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 ALC889A ALC892 Installation: This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org. For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit. For driver installation, please follow below steps. Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution) execute ./install Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install. Run commands need to add sudo at first words. Manual install: Step 1. unzip source code tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2 Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config (soundcore module, default turn on) Step 3. Complied source code a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)<= for HDA options c. make d. make install e. alsaconf Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution (Please refer to the attached modules.conf) snd- is the card ID. -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 - snd-hda-intel -- AC97 controller --ALC655 ALC650 ALC250 ALC255 --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 , SiS 7012 and NVidia-- snd-intel8x0 --- Via8233 Via686a --- snd-via82xx --- ATI Chipset --- snd-atiixp Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf file. # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd- # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 # card #1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss Step 5. reboot your machine Step 6. Use the alsamixer the disable mute (All audio line default is mute) Must to compile and to install the ALSA library and utility. (Use automatic install is already install) excute alsamixer Note: 1. The most detail information, can refer the alsa-kernel/Documenttation/ALSA-Configuration.txt in the azx-021705.tar.bz2. 2. Kernel Version must be 2.6 or later. 3. All mixer channels are muted by default. You must use a native or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate channels. 4. If can not compile the source code, try to rename the /usr/src/linux-2.x -> /usr/src/linux. 5. The driver added to support the SPDIF functoin. 6. a. You can download the alsa-lib-1.0.x and alsa-utils-1.0.x form the www.alsa-project.org, then unzip and install them. b. Suggest use "alsamixer" to control mixer function. c. Used "alsaconf" can autodetect which drive you need to install (step 4). 7. SUSE Distribution must install the ncurses package. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
