Re: Persona Survey results

2010-08-21 Thread Maurice McCarthy
Hi All,

I read the survey last night and it makes interesting reading.

A few people mentioned Dragonsoft programs such as Naturally Speaking
and Dictate. Forgive me if I am wrong but earlier this year I was
looking at these sort of programs.

Naturally Speaking has not undergone any development for over 2 years
and is now half price in Amazon. When I also discovered that voice
recognition is vastly improved in Windows 7 I leapt to the conclusion
that Microsoft have bought Dragonsoft and incorporated their product
into Windows. I may be wrong but this sort of thing has happened often
- Roxio cd burner, Visio CAD and Winternals to name the obvious ones.

Against my better nature I bought a copy of Win7 to see for myself and
found nothing as good as this in Linux.

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Re: Persona Survey results

2010-08-21 Thread Eric S. Johansson
  On 8/21/2010 6:59 AM, Maurice McCarthy wrote:
 Hi All,

 I read the survey last night and it makes interesting reading.

 A few people mentioned Dragonsoft programs such as Naturally Speaking
 and Dictate. Forgive me if I am wrong but earlier this year I was
 looking at these sort of programs.

 Naturally Speaking has not undergone any development for over 2 years
 and is now half price in Amazon. When I also discovered that voice
 recognition is vastly improved in Windows 7 I leapt to the conclusion
 that Microsoft have bought Dragonsoft and incorporated their product
 into Windows. I may be wrong but this sort of thing has happened often
 - Roxio cd burner, Visio CAD and Winternals to name the obvious ones.

NaturallySpeaking version 11 was just released. It has been improved but not in 
the ways that matters. It has a bunch of gui improvements, some speed and 
accuracy improvements. I can't find out if they've improved the number of a 
that 
controls it works with. I can almost guarantee you it does not work with any of 
the open source edit controls such as gtk+ or wxwindows. On the other hand, 
there's been a lot of activity in the wine community and I would not be 
surprised if this was the year we had a working solution.

Windows speech recognition is completely separate from nuance. I've been told 
it's on par with NaturallySpeaking 10.1. Unfortunately, Microsoft is even less 
responsive to the needs of the disabled than nuance. Quite a pity.  One of the 
Microsoft developers was hanging out on the voice coder list and helped out 
significantly with using Microsoft's speech recognition and then he vanished 
when we started asking questions, hard questions about bug fixes. We call this 
the I think I hear my mommy calling effect.

 Against my better nature I bought a copy of Win7 to see for myself and
 found nothing as good as this in Linux.

Isn't it exhilarating When you find something nice (er) than what you've ever 
known and horrifying to realize you can never be satisfied with either 
environment.

For example, I've been looking at a bunch of windows IDE's in the vain hope 
that 
I will find one that will work with NaturallySpeaking. But in my exposure to 
these different tools and user interfaces, I've come to find that I like some 
of 
them better than Emacs but they still fall short so I find myself stuck between 
modern Windows gui's and emacs and neither work with speech recognition. Isn't 
that exquisite? It makes me weep.

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Re: Persona Survey results

2010-08-21 Thread Eric S. Johansson
  On 8/21/2010 6:59 AM, Maurice McCarthy wrote:
 Hi All,

 I read the survey last night and it makes interesting reading.

 A few people mentioned Dragonsoft programs such as Naturally Speaking
 and Dictate. Forgive me if I am wrong but earlier this year I was
 looking at these sort of programs.

 Naturally Speaking has not undergone any development for over 2 years
 and is now half price in Amazon. When I also discovered that voice
 recognition is vastly improved in Windows 7 I leapt to the conclusion
 that Microsoft have bought Dragonsoft and incorporated their product
 into Windows. I may be wrong but this sort of thing has happened often
 - Roxio cd burner, Visio CAD and Winternals to name the obvious ones.

NaturallySpeaking version 11 was just released. It has been improved but not in 
the ways that matters. It has a bunch of gui improvements, some speed and 
accuracy improvements. I can't find out if they've improved the number of a 
that 
controls it works with. I can almost guarantee you it does not work with any of 
the open source edit controls such as gtk+ or wxwindows. On the other hand, 
there's been a lot of activity in the wine community and I would not be 
surprised if this was the year we had a working solution.

Windows speech recognition is completely separate from nuance. I've been told 
it's on par with NaturallySpeaking 10.1. Unfortunately, Microsoft is even less 
responsive to the needs of the disabled than nuance. Quite a pity.  One of the 
Microsoft developers was hanging out on the voice coder list and helped out 
significantly with using Microsoft's speech recognition and then he vanished 
when we started asking questions, hard questions about bug fixes. We call this 
the I think I hear my mommy calling effect.

 Against my better nature I bought a copy of Win7 to see for myself and
 found nothing as good as this in Linux.

Isn't it exhilarating When you find something nice (er) than what you've ever 
known and horrifying to realize you can never be satisfied with either 
environment.

For example, I've been looking at a bunch of windows IDE's in the vain hope 
that 
I will find one that will work with NaturallySpeaking. But in my exposure to 
these different tools and user interfaces, I've come to find that I like some 
of 
them better than Emacs but they still fall short so I find myself stuck between 
modern Windows gui's and emacs and neither work with speech recognition. Isn't 
that exquisite? It makes me weep.

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Re: Persona Survey results

2010-08-21 Thread Maurice McCarthy
Thanks for the correction Eric

And, yes, it is annoyingly tantalising when these things happen.
Thanks for the info about Windows and Nuance, too.

On a different topic:

1. I'd be delighted if a sound module could be written for grub2 so
that you could hear the menu entries for different booting options.

2. Would it be so diffcult to write a narrator for open office? ods
and odt files are zipped xml file collections so for a /simple/ odt
file you could chain an xml to text convertor to a text to speech
convertor such as festival. This would be difficult in a spreadsheet
however as you would easily lose the relation between different cells.

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On 21/08/2010, Eric S. Johansson e...@harvee.org wrote:
 NaturallySpeaking version 11 was just released. It has been improved but not
 in the ways that matters. ...

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Re: usb headphones question

2010-08-21 Thread Maurice McCarthy
Josh

Are your headphones not listed in System - preferences - sound?
They shoud be if lsusb lists the headset.

You ought to be able to select them instead of the onboard sound.

As you have vinux then, another try is to plug them in and then in a
terminal do
$ sudo restoresound

Wait a couple of minutes to s ee if the script completes as it calls
quite a lot of other programs.

Good Luck
Maurice



On 21/08/2010, Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 In order to use my usb headphones I have to first plug them in, reboot the
 computer and then they show up in my list of sound choices. I am using
 ubuntu lucid vinux 3.0. But if I plug them in without rebooting if I use
 alsamixer alsamixer says they are there but if I go into the ubuntu alt f1
 menu into system preferences sounds I cannot choose them. I can only choose
 them as a sound card option after rebooting. Why is this? Can this be
 changed? Ubuntu picks up other devices without rebooting so why must I
 reboot just to use usb headphones? email off list at jkenn...@gmail.com

 Josh Kennedy
 jkenn...@gmail.com



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