Natty accessibility issues

2011-08-25 Thread Nolan Darilek

Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:

1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible, 
and can't find an accessible way to switch back. There appear to be 
unlabeled controls on the login screen, including one that speaks 
null. How do I switch back to classic GNOME from the command line? And 
I thought that Unity wouldn't be hoisted onto existing users, just new ones.


2. I'm encountering an issue wherein pressing capslock to use Orca 
commands in laptop mode actually toggles capslock. This is going to be a 
pain and a half if there isn't a workaround. What is that workaround?


Have to admit to being a bit frustrated by these. Part of why I waited 
to upgrade to the latest _stable_ Ubuntu version until August was that 
I'd hoped that any lingering access issues would be worked out by now. I 
understand why a new version of Unity can't ship, but this capslock 
thing took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime 
since April 30th and a fix could have been shipped? I could also 
understand if I was upgrading to the unstable 11.10, but this is a 
stable Ubuntu months after release. There shouldn't be these 
productivity-killing issues present in a stable upgrade after months of 
it being out in the wild.


But in any case, thanks for any workarounds. It'll be nice to get back 
to a more accessible GUI and get this capslock thing sorted so I can 
start getting work done today.


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Re: Natty accessibility issues

2011-08-25 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.info wrote:
 but this capslock thing
 took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime since April
 30th and a fix could have been shipped?

I remember this issue being brought up on this list months ago, but I
can't find any record of it in the bugtracker.

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Re: Natty accessibility issues

2011-08-25 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:07:45 -0500
Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.info wrote:

 Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:
 
 1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible, 
 and can't find an accessible way to switch back. There appear to be 
 unlabeled controls on the login screen, including one that speaks 
 null. How do I switch back to classic GNOME from the command line? And 
 I thought that Unity wouldn't be hoisted onto existing users, just new ones.

I do not know the accessible way to do this, but if you could have
someone assist:

- From the login screen, after entering your name, change the session at
the bottom of the screen from Ubuntu  to  Classic. After being
changed, it should remain at classic.

 
 2. I'm encountering an issue wherein pressing capslock to use Orca 
 commands in laptop mode actually toggles capslock. This is going to be a 
 pain and a half if there isn't a workaround. What is that workaround?

Copying the response from Luke on July 27, 2011:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2011-July/005314.html

Yes, this problem is known, however nobody knows how to fix it yet,
probably because nobody is looking. I'd like to try and address this
ASAP, so intend to try and find some time to dig deeper into this
problem that is also affecting Ubuntu 11.10. If a fix is found, 11.04
will be given the fix also.

 
 Have to admit to being a bit frustrated by these. Part of why I waited 
 to upgrade to the latest _stable_ Ubuntu version until August was that 
 I'd hoped that any lingering access issues would be worked out by now. I 
 understand why a new version of Unity can't ship, but this capslock 
 thing took me five minutes to spot. Surely it was encountered sometime 
 since April 30th and a fix could have been shipped? I could also 
 understand if I was upgrading to the unstable 11.10, but this is a 
 stable Ubuntu months after release. There shouldn't be these 
 productivity-killing issues present in a stable upgrade after months of 
 it being out in the wild.
 
 But in any case, thanks for any workarounds. It'll be nice to get back 
 to a more accessible GUI and get this capslock thing sorted so I can 
 start getting work done today.
 


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