Re: Orca Master

2012-01-25 Thread Robert cole
Thank you very much for that, José. I rally appreciate you taking the 
time to post this.


Now, do I need to uninstall the version of Orca which came with Ubuntu 
11.10 (version 3.2.1) or can I run either of the both of them? Also, do 
I need to get and compile the latest at-spi2 components (i.e. pyatspi2, 
at-spi2-core, etc) or will the current versions suffice?


Once I get everything together, I will try and write up a tutorial for 
others who are interested in doing this if it would be helpful to others 
(I personally know of a few people who would love to know how to do this).


Thanks again. Your information is much appreciated.

On 01/25/2012 12:31 AM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

Hi Robert
Here are the steps that I took to compile orca on ubuntu 11.10.
Hope that helps.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
sudo apt-get install gnome-common

The next commands are necessary to update the version of 
python-gobject. Orca needs version 3.0.2 or above and ubuntu 11.10 
comes with version 3.0.0.


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

 git clone git://git.gnome.org/orca orca
cd orca
./configure
./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install

orca will be installed in /usr/local

On 01/25/2012 01:40 AM, Robert cole wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I am running Ubuntu 11.10 along with Orca version 3.2.1.

I see that a lot of Ubuntu 11.10 users are happily using Orca Master
(which I believe is version 3.3.5pre).

About a month or more ago I asked on the Orca list how to get and build
Orca Master from the GNOME Git repository. At that time, however, I was
running Linux Mint 12. Someone pointed me to the Orca Wiki's
Download/Install page [1]. I followed the instructions there, and I
completely broke my Linux Mint 12 system. I know that the Wiki is going
through an update process, and I (now) know that the instructions for
obtaining Orca Master located there are out-of-date, as I believe they
are in reference to Orca pre-GNOME 3.

Is there an updated guide somewhere for getting and building the latest
Orca Master branch? It does not seem like it would be that difficult (as
the instructions on the Wiki page were explained quite well). I really
want to try and build Orca Master again, but the right way. If there is
an updated guide, where would I find it?

Thanks for any help which you are able to provide.

Take care.

[1] http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall






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help with the live cd

2012-01-25 Thread gene richburg
Hello everyone,  I downloaded utunto 11 last week and have been trying to get 
orca to talk so that I can install it, how ever, I can't get it to work .  In 
ubuntu 8.4 I could boot to the cd, press enter to select english, press 
downarrow once to tell the installer that I want to install, hit f5, key in 3 
to load speech, and press enter twice and orca would come up talking, how ever 
that doesn't seem to work in the current billed so I was wondering if there is 
something I'm doing wrong?  Also, in an earlier version I was able to get my 
pac mate braille display to work but I don't know how to get that to work 
either.  I've been searching on the net using google trying to find some decent 
instructions on how to successfully boot to the live cd for ubuntu11, infact, I 
spent all day doing pretty much that and finally came acrossed this list.  I'm 
gonna have some more questions later, however, right now I need to get the 
basic problem out of the way.  Thanks for any help anybody can give me.
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Re: help with the live cd

2012-01-25 Thread Paul Hunt

Hi,

Simply boot the CD, wait for the disc activity to stop (will take a few 
minutes) then press control + s to start Orca.


The Orca main window will have focus.  Alt+tab once and you will be on a 
screen that allows you to either run the live session or begin an install.


Paul

On 25/01/12 12:49, gene richburg wrote:
Hello everyone,  I downloaded utunto 11 last week and have been trying 
to get orca to talk so that I can install it, how ever, I can't get it 
to work .  In ubuntu 8.4 I could boot to the cd, press enter to select 
english, press downarrow once to tell the installer that I want to 
install, hit f5, key in 3 to load speech, and press enter twice and 
orca would come up talking, how ever that doesn't seem to work in the 
current billed so I was wondering if there is something I'm doing 
wrong?  Also, in an earlier version I was able to get my pac mate 
braille display to work but I don't know how to get that to work 
either.  I've been searching on the net using google trying to find 
some decent instructions on how to successfully boot to the live cd 
for ubuntu11, infact, I spent all day doing pretty much that and 
finally came acrossed this list.  I'm gonna have some more questions 
later, however, right now I need to get the basic problem out of the 
way.  Thanks for any help anybody can give me.

Gene




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Re: help with the live cd

2012-01-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Assuming you're talking about Ubuntu 11.10, you can just press control+s
to start Orca after you hear the drums. You may also want to check out
the accessibility notes that came out when Oneric was released at:
http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/oneiric-ocelot/ to

On 25/01/12 06:49, gene richburg wrote:
 Hello everyone,  I downloaded utunto 11 last week and have been trying
 to get orca to talk so that I can install it, how ever, I can't get it
 to work .  In ubuntu 8.4 I could boot to the cd, press enter to select
 english, press downarrow once to tell the installer that I want to
 install, hit f5, key in 3 to load speech, and press enter twice and orca
 would come up talking, how ever that doesn't seem to work in the current
 billed so I was wondering if there is something I'm doing wrong?  Also,
 in an earlier version I was able to get my pac mate braille display to
 work but I don't know how to get that to work either.  I've been
 searching on the net using google trying to find some decent
 instructions on how to successfully boot to the live cd for ubuntu11,
 infact, I spent all day doing pretty much that and finally came acrossed
 this list.  I'm gonna have some more questions later, however, right now
 I need to get the basic problem out of the way.  Thanks for any help
 anybody can give me.
 Gene
 


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Re: HUD in 12.04?

2012-01-25 Thread Robert cole

Hello, Bruno.

I actually installed the x86 version as a VirtualBox guest, but the HUD 
will not work for me at all. I added the PPA repository and ran a 
dist-upgrade. Will it work in both Unity2D and Unity3D? Thai is the only 
thing I can think of, as even though I have 3D Acceleration enabled for 
the virtual machine, with a Video Memory size of 186 MB, Unity3D will 
not come up at all. There is also no cog icon to choose which desktop 
environment to log into on the login screen. When I press ALT to try to 
invoke the HUD, nothing happens other than the normal global menu 
behavior in which a certain letter of a menu (e.g. [F]ile, [E]dit, 
[V]iew ,etc) is underscored.


Am I doing something wrong?

On 01/25/2012 02:50 PM, Bruno Girin wrote:

On 24/01/12 23:28, Robert cole wrote:

Thanks for the link, Bruno.

I am downloading a daily build of the Precise live CD right now. 
Should I use the daily build or should I get something else?


I don't have a physical machine dedicated to testing, so do you think 
that things would work just as well in a VirtualBox Guest? At this 
time that is my only option, so I hope that I can help with testing.


I had issues running the x86_64 ISO in a VirtualBox guest due to a bug 
[1] but as it now says fix committed, there's a chance it'll be 
fixed if you use the daily live CD. If you're running the x86 ISO, you 
should be fine (unless you hit another bug). But anyway, even if your 
testing consists in working out you can't run it in VirtualBox, it's 
still valuable feeback!


[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/850264

Cheers,

Bruno





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Re: HUD in 12.04?

2012-01-25 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:58:10AM EST, Robert cole wrote:
 Hello, Bruno.
 
 I actually installed the x86 version as a VirtualBox guest, but the
 HUD will not work for me at all. I added the PPA repository and ran
 a dist-upgrade. Will it work in both Unity2D and Unity3D? Thai is
 the only thing I can think of, as even though I have 3D Acceleration
 enabled for the virtual machine, with a Video Memory size of 186 MB,
 Unity3D will not come up at all. There is also no cog icon to choose
 which desktop environment to log into on the login screen. When I
 press ALT to try to invoke the HUD, nothing happens other than the
 normal global menu behavior in which a certain letter of a menu
 (e.g. [F]ile, [E]dit, [V]iew ,etc) is underscored.

No, only unity 3D is getting it for the time being... Another reason why the 2 
codebases need to merge into one somehow at some point...

Luke

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Re: HUD in 12.04?

2012-01-25 Thread Robert cole

Thanks, Luke.

I'll try and see if I can find out why Unity3D is not coming up for me 
in VirtualBox.


On 01/25/2012 03:07 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:58:10AM EST, Robert cole wrote:

Hello, Bruno.

I actually installed the x86 version as a VirtualBox guest, but the
HUD will not work for me at all. I added the PPA repository and ran
a dist-upgrade. Will it work in both Unity2D and Unity3D? Thai is
the only thing I can think of, as even though I have 3D Acceleration
enabled for the virtual machine, with a Video Memory size of 186 MB,
Unity3D will not come up at all. There is also no cog icon to choose
which desktop environment to log into on the login screen. When I
press ALT to try to invoke the HUD, nothing happens other than the
normal global menu behavior in which a certain letter of a menu
(e.g. [F]ile, [E]dit, [V]iew ,etc) is underscored.

No, only unity 3D is getting it for the time being... Another reason why the 2 
codebases need to merge into one somehow at some point...

Luke




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Re: HUD in 12.04?

2012-01-25 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:18:05AM EST, Robert cole wrote:
 Thanks, Luke.
 
 I'll try and see if I can find out why Unity3D is not coming up for
 me in VirtualBox.

You need to make sure you have 3D graphics enabled in the virtual machine 
settings, and you also need to make sure you have the virtualbox guest support 
packages installed in the VM itself.

Luke

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