Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I dare to say it is not correct. How did you managed to move your focus to 'install Ubuntu on this machine' with ORCA Running? The tabbing through the options simply doesn't work. I tried this on 3 different system before I started to talk about it. Did you click with the mouse? As soon as my wife clicked on 'install ubuntu on this machine' with the mouse for me I could carry on with the installation but no matter what I tried on my own I couldn't go over this first step - there was no way. Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, mattias wrote: you can install ubuntu mate 20.04 with orca i have do it myself but you have to do it from the live session Den 2020-06-04 kl. 17:40, skrev Werwoelfchen: Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Depending on from what release of ubuntu you are upgrading your system. From 18.04 you may run 'update-manage' from your terminal - I believe. Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Hi, I am talking about ubuntu-mate 20.04 installation. You're telling me to press F5 or F4, at what time then one should do it without seeing the screen. Their instructions say to wait a while and press the Super key with letter S to start ORCA and carry on with the trial or installation of ubuntu. It worked with no problem with previous release so why not now. I got over to my place an 11-year-old sighted kid to do it for me. However, he was doing this first time in his life, he managed to install ubutnu with not much trouble. Why do a blind person have to be a magician to perform something what any sighted person can do with no problem. Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. It will help with newer machines. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:40 PM, Werwoelfchen wrote: Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I just checked: update-manager takes me back to the GUI. I will try apt or apt-get F On 6/4/20 1:21 PM, Pawel L. wrote: Depending on from what release of ubuntu you are upgrading your system. From 18.04 you may run 'update-manage' from your terminal - I believe. Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
you can install ubuntu mate 20.04 with orca i have do it myself but you have to do it from the live session Den 2020-06-04 kl. 17:40, skrev Werwoelfchen: Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Oh, don't worry. I have experimented with the help of people that are much more knowledgeable than me, and you hit a wall pretty quickly. The cli is very flexible, but it is not the GUI, no matter what one does. It's just not meant to be. F On 6/4/20 1:07 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Probably can be done by reassigning some keys. If home gets you to the beginning of a line, on command line that's control-a and end would be control-e. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:02:30 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I love the command line. If I could use Home, End, Alt Tab, Ctrl x, c, and v, and control left and right arrows, the way they are used on the GUI, I would switch and never look back, except for browsing and Calc. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:56 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Probably can be done by reassigning some keys. If home gets you to the beginning of a line, on command line that's control-a and end would be control-e. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:02:30 > From: Fernando Botelho > To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > > I love the command line. If I could use Home, End, Alt Tab, Ctrl x, c, and v, > and control left and right arrows, the way they are used on the GUI, I would > switch and never look back, except for browsing and Calc. > > Fernando > > On 6/4/20 12:56 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line > > orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > > > >> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 > >> From: Fernando Botelho > >> To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. > >> Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > >> > >> Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used > >> for > >> a total version upgrade. > >> > >> I will try that next time. > >> > >> Fernando > >> > >> > >> On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >>> Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools > >>> installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also > >>> download aptitude and use that. > >>> > >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > >>> > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 > From: Fernando Botelho > To: Pawel L. > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > > I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? > > F > > On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > > I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring > > this > > list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it > > is > > with Debian Accessibility group. > > > > How exactly have you run your upgrade? > > Pawel > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > > > >> I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate > >> from > >> a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to > >> espeak, > >> maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the > >> English interface. > >> > >> In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the > >> synthesizer switch was the worse. > >> > >> Fernando > >> > >> > >> On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 > >>> system. > >>> Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA > >>> activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the > >>> focus > >>> on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. > >>> I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. > >>> Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Pawel > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > >> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > >> > > > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I love the command line. If I could use Home, End, Alt Tab, Ctrl x, c, and v, and control left and right arrows, the way they are used on the GUI, I would switch and never look back, except for browsing and Calc. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:56 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 > From: Fernando Botelho > To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > > Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for > a total version upgrade. > > I will try that next time. > > Fernando > > > On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools > > installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also > > download aptitude and use that. > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > > > >> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 > >> From: Fernando Botelho > >> To: Pawel L. > >> Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > >> > >> I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? > >> > >> F > >> > >> On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > >>> I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this > >>> list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is > >>> with Debian Accessibility group. > >>> > >>> How exactly have you run your upgrade? > >>> Pawel > >>> > >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > >>> > I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate > from > a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to > espeak, > maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the > English interface. > > In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the > synthesizer switch was the worse. > > Fernando > > > On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > > Hello, > > Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 > > system. > > Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA > > activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the > > focus > > on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. > > I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. > > Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? > > Thanks, > > Pawel > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > >> > >> > > > > -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 > From: Fernando Botelho > To: Pawel L. > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > > I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? > > F > > On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > > I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this > > list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is > > with Debian Accessibility group. > > > > How exactly have you run your upgrade? > > Pawel > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: > > > >> I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from > >> a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, > >> maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the > >> English interface. > >> > >> In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the > >> synthesizer switch was the worse. > >> > >> Fernando > >> > >> > >> On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 > >>> system. > >>> Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA > >>> activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus > >>> on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. > >>> I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. > >>> Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Pawel > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > >> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > >> > > -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Thanks for the suggestion. It will help with newer machines. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:40 PM, Werwoelfchen wrote: Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
That would have been f4 and only press it once since in mate that toggles accessibility normally. Were you successful doing integrity verification of the install image you downloaded? If the image fails verification any number of failures could happen during and after installation if you even manage an installation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Werwoelfchen wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:40:14 > From: Werwoelfchen > To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised > > Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not > work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the > Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. > Greetings, > Wolfram > > Pawel L. schrieb: > > Hello, > > Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 > > system. > > Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation > > at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any > > option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. > > I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. > > Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? > > Thanks, > > Pawel > > > > > > > -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
