Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I just checked: update-manager takes me back to the GUI. I will try apt or apt-get F On 6/4/20 1:21 PM, Pawel L. wrote: Depending on from what release of ubuntu you are upgrading your system. From 18.04 you may run 'update-manage' from your terminal - I believe. Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Oh, don't worry. I have experimented with the help of people that are much more knowledgeable than me, and you hit a wall pretty quickly. The cli is very flexible, but it is not the GUI, no matter what one does. It's just not meant to be. F On 6/4/20 1:07 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Probably can be done by reassigning some keys. If home gets you to the beginning of a line, on command line that's control-a and end would be control-e. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:02:30 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I love the command line. If I could use Home, End, Alt Tab, Ctrl x, c, and v, and control left and right arrows, the way they are used on the GUI, I would switch and never look back, except for browsing and Calc. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:56 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I love the command line. If I could use Home, End, Alt Tab, Ctrl x, c, and v, and control left and right arrows, the way they are used on the GUI, I would switch and never look back, except for browsing and Calc. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:56 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Don't be embarrassed, only reason I know about it is my command line orientation. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:54:09 From: Fernando Botelho To: Jude DaShiell , Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I did not know apt-get could be used for a total version upgrade. I will try that next time. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:51 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Mate has command line software update and software upgrade tools installed out of the box. man apt or man apt-get. One could also download aptitude and use that. On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:47:56 From: Fernando Botelho To: Pawel L. Cc: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I used the graphical interface. Is there a command line way to do it? F On 6/4/20 11:53 AM, Pawel L. wrote: I hoped that soemone from the Ubuntu accessibility team is monitoring this list and this idividual will react to our emails; in similar way as it is with Debian Accessibility group. How exactly have you run your upgrade? Pawel On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, Fernando Botelho wrote: I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
Thanks for the suggestion. It will help with newer machines. Fernando On 6/4/20 12:40 PM, Werwoelfchen wrote: Hi, No, i even wrote to the Orca list, they said to press F5 but id did not work and than I toke a normal Ubuntu and installed a Mate Desktop besides the Gnome. I think this is the only solution in the moment. Greetings, Wolfram Pawel L. schrieb: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-Mate accessibility probably compromised
I also found serious accessibility problems when upgrading Ubuntu Mate from a previous version. For example, at some point a change is made to espeak, maybe a language change, which makes it impossible to understand the English interface. In addition, there were issues like inaccessible buttons etc, but the synthesizer switch was the worse. Fernando On 6/3/20 6:30 AM, Pawel L. wrote: Hello, Recently I tried to install Ubuntu-mate desktop 20.04 on my Lenovo M83 system. Unfortunately, I was unable to go ahead with anything beyond ORCA activation at the installation screen. There was no way to bring the focus on any option such as 'try ubuntu' nor 'instal ubuntu'. I had no such problems with Ubuntu-mate 19.10 installation. Any tips/suggestion on how to over come this, please? Thanks, Pawel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: xubuntu on Pine64 no audio
Did you guys succeed in making the PineBook speak? Fernando On 04/04/2019 09:45 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 11:22:01AM AEDT, Glenn At Home wrote: It looks like this distro does not support the audio device built into the board. I did arecord -l and it listed no devices I also did lspci | grep and it listed no audio devices. Any ideas? Firstly, such hardware does not always have a PCI bus, and even if it did, it is likely that the audio hardware is in the main SoC chip itself. Check for the existance of /proc/asound. If that doesn't exist, then it is possible that the relevant audio hardware module is not loaded. Check in /lib/modules/$kernel-version to see if any sound modules are present, and try to load them. It is common for board specific kernels to have the audio hardware driver built into the kernel, so you may not find anything, either in lsmod output, or in the modules directory. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Firefox 25?
Have you tried EDX, Coursera or any of those famous ones? They claim to be in favor of open standards. Fernando On 11/02/2013 12:36 AM, Kyle wrote: I'm becoming a big fan of The Saylor Foundation http://saylor.org/ I like their philosophy as well as most of the licensing they've been able to use for their course materials. I just wish they would offer additional formats other than PDF for their reading materials. The first text I read had no issues, but I can't seem to get through the Introduction to Software History, which is required reading, but somehow gets jumbled up by the second or third page during conversion. I was able to read the HTML version of the same document, but the PDF version says it's modified from the original, but I'm not sure how it's modified. Both Evince and Firefox are jumbling it a bit, as are pdftotext and pdftohtml. I really do like the concept though, and hope either their text or our reading tools will improve soon. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: FOSDEM
Is there funding available for travel costs? Fernando On 08/26/2013 10:44 AM, mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Interested to do a devroom at fosdem? To meet each other and discuss new accessibility issues related to GUI, braille and other general issues? Could you be present, on February, 1st and 2nd? If interested, I can submit a devroom to FOSDEM so that we cas discuss between users and devs about accessibility today and in the future. Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Sapi voices - little update
This is great Ethanak, thanks! Fernando On 05/25/2013 05:12 AM, Bohdan R. Rau wrote: I tried to make sd_sapi more usable. 1) libsapilektor-0.1.9 does not need running sapi server at start for sapi4linux voices so module does not crash if sapi server is not started yet 2) speechd-sapi-0.1.2 uses espeak as fallback voice if sapi4linux client returns error (probably sapi server is down) so you should never get silence from module. More info: http://tts.polip.com/files/sapi/installing.txt (may be a little outdated) ethanak -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Anyway possible using Svox Classic TTS engine with Ubuntu?
Well, since Voxin is no longer for sale, this might be a good time for us to get started on improving espeak in Spanish. If anyone is interested, please write to me off list. Thanks, Fernando On 05/10/2013 01:46 AM, B. Henry wrote: The svox voices were donated I thought, or was this only for Windows usage? I don't like pico svox at all for English, but found them quite listenable in French, and a much better alternative to espeak for Spanish; and at the moment the only alternative for Spanish in Linux that's of quality for the average user to use on a production system is Voxin, (IBMtts). I certainly don't mind paying the $5 U.S. that a Voxin voice costs, but alternatives would certainly be welcomed. I am a big espeak fan, and do want to work with J.D. to try and improve Spanish when ever I get the chance to make some decent recordings, but no one nor two synths will be for everyone. BTW-does anyone have experience with Festival and Spanish? -- B.H. On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:28:46AM -0400, Kyle wrote: According to Fernando Botelho: # Someone with experience adapting voices for use with Orca/speech # dispatcher is: # Bohdan R. Rau # etha...@polip.com # # He was working on adapting SAPI voices for use in Linux through Wine. # Maybe his experience would help with this. Android voices should be even easier than SAPI voices to make work with speech-dispatcher, since x86 builds of Android are now available, and the voices need to be built for it, making them one step closer to x86-based desktop Linux. The main issue is going to be convincing the developers of such voices that many of us would be interested in purchasing them for a desktop Linux operating system, which would go a long way toward resolving any remaining incompatibilities and also would avoid licensing problems that could arise from running a voice on something other than the intended platform. Only the speech-dispatcher module would need to be figured out at that point. Of course the voices would need to be built for x86_64 as well, but in most cases this shouldn't cause significant problems. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Anyway possible using Svox Classic TTS engine with Ubuntu?
Someone with experience adapting voices for use with Orca/speech dispatcher is: Bohdan R. Rau etha...@polip.com He was working on adapting SAPI voices for use in Linux through Wine. Maybe his experience would help with this. On 05/07/2013 09:09 AM, Kyle wrote: Unfortunately the SVox Classic voices, as far as I know, are only built for Android, and an interface to be able to use speech-dispatcher is not currently available for desktop Linux. It's likely that x86 binaries would speak with the right dependencies, but I doubt that the Pico module for speech-dispatcher will support it. The only other option for many different languages is eSpeak, but many of its languages need native speakers to fix them up so they sound better. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how good will be the gnome shell edition of Ubuntu 13.04?
Luke, since you brought QT5 up, do you know if Razor-QT has the same level of accessibility as QT5 for Orca users? Thanks, Fernando On 04/24/2013 11:41 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:16:43PM EST, Krishnakant Mane wrote: Still no confirmation for my query on some thing similar to Heads up display? Is such a feature there in Gnome 3.6? No it is not. I am surprised you use the HUD, because its not as accessible as it could be, and I find it gets in the way. Also, I wish to know from all the eminent list members, is Gnome shell the right path to go for a long terms solution? If you want to use GNOME long term, then yes. Ubuntu will be moving away from the use of GNOME as part of its desktop, and will be using its own Qt based GUI. There will always be the GNOME remix, and I dare say once Ubuntu stops using GNOME completely, then you will see GNOME regularly up to date in future Ubuntu releases. Is it any faster in performance as compared to Unity? Its hard to compare that at the moment, given unity 3D is not fully accessible, and given that Unity is undergoing another rewrite to be Qt5 based. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
