Re: coping a folder
On 4/16/2024 9:50 AM, Daniel Crone wrote: I am wanting to copy a folder named linux-a11y from Downloads/linux-a11y-sound-theme-master to the shared folder. /usr/share/sound I got in to the Downloads folder. I typed sudo cp linux-a11y /usr/share/sounds The linux-a11y folder failed to copy. What might the reason be? Was my cp command correct? I think you missed the -r option to copy directories/folders recursively, as in: sudo cp -r linux-a11y /usr/share/sounds -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Tips for accessibly Managing/Navigating Grub2 in a Dual boot Scenario?
menu option to use for the default OS option.
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*Subject:* Re: Tips for accessibly Managing/Navigating Grub2 in a
Dual boot Scenario?
On 6/11/2023 12:17 PM, faginbagin wrote:
On 6/11/2023 11:57 AM, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
Hi all,
On one of my machines, I have installed Ubuntu 23.04
alongside Windows 11. By default now, the machine boots
into Linux. My issue is that I’m not sure how to reliably
boot to Windows when I want to do so. I’ve enabled the
Grub beep, and after the beep, I’ve experimented with
pressing down arrow and then enter, pressing down arrow
twice, and then enter, etc. Maybe I need to down arrow 3
or 4 times, but the upshot is I’m just not sure. I’m
guessing there are a number of entries I could care less
about such as Memtest 386 and older kernels will get added
as time passes.
What’s the best way to deal with this these days? Sounds
like you’re no longer supposed to edit grub.conf directly.
I’ve seen talk about the grub-customizer tool but I’m
having issues installing that in 23.04.
Seems like this used to be easier 15 or 20 years ago with
the old Grub. Ah well.
Thanks,
--Al
Would it help if grub saved your last boot option? In other
words, if you do boot into Windows, the next time you reboot,
the default choice will be windows? If so, the attached patch
might help (if the list allows text format patches). It's from
a 22.04 system (I don't have 23.04 installed), but
/etc/default/grub has not seen a lot of changes over time. I
hope it helps.
Forgot to mention that this patch also disables the splash screen
and makes sure there's a 10 second timeout. If you don't want
those changes, but do want to save your last boot as the next
default boot option. you only need to change GRUB_DEFAULT and add
GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT as shown in the patch. I did comment out
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE but I'm not sure it is needed. For more details
see the grub documentation, especially section 6.1:
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#Simple-configuration
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Re: Tips for accessibly Managing/Navigating Grub2 in a Dual boot Scenario?
On 6/11/2023 12:17 PM, faginbagin wrote: On 6/11/2023 11:57 AM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Hi all, On one of my machines, I have installed Ubuntu 23.04 alongside Windows 11. By default now, the machine boots into Linux. My issue is that I’m not sure how to reliably boot to Windows when I want to do so. I’ve enabled the Grub beep, and after the beep, I’ve experimented with pressing down arrow and then enter, pressing down arrow twice, and then enter, etc. Maybe I need to down arrow 3 or 4 times, but the upshot is I’m just not sure. I’m guessing there are a number of entries I could care less about such as Memtest 386 and older kernels will get added as time passes. What’s the best way to deal with this these days? Sounds like you’re no longer supposed to edit grub.conf directly. I’ve seen talk about the grub-customizer tool but I’m having issues installing that in 23.04. Seems like this used to be easier 15 or 20 years ago with the old Grub. Ah well. Thanks, --Al Would it help if grub saved your last boot option? In other words, if you do boot into Windows, the next time you reboot, the default choice will be windows? If so, the attached patch might help (if the list allows text format patches). It's from a 22.04 system (I don't have 23.04 installed), but /etc/default/grub has not seen a lot of changes over time. I hope it helps. Forgot to mention that this patch also disables the splash screen and makes sure there's a 10 second timeout. If you don't want those changes, but do want to save your last boot as the next default boot option. you only need to change GRUB_DEFAULT and add GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT as shown in the patch. I did comment out GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE but I'm not sure it is needed. For more details see the grub documentation, especially section 6.1: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#Simple-configuration HTH-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Tips for accessibly Managing/Navigating Grub2 in a Dual boot Scenario?
On 6/11/2023 11:57 AM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Hi all, On one of my machines, I have installed Ubuntu 23.04 alongside Windows 11. By default now, the machine boots into Linux. My issue is that I’m not sure how to reliably boot to Windows when I want to do so. I’ve enabled the Grub beep, and after the beep, I’ve experimented with pressing down arrow and then enter, pressing down arrow twice, and then enter, etc. Maybe I need to down arrow 3 or 4 times, but the upshot is I’m just not sure. I’m guessing there are a number of entries I could care less about such as Memtest 386 and older kernels will get added as time passes. What’s the best way to deal with this these days? Sounds like you’re no longer supposed to edit grub.conf directly. I’ve seen talk about the grub-customizer tool but I’m having issues installing that in 23.04. Seems like this used to be easier 15 or 20 years ago with the old Grub. Ah well. Thanks, --Al Would it help if grub saved your last boot option? In other words, if you do boot into Windows, the next time you reboot, the default choice will be windows? If so, the attached patch might help (if the list allows text format patches). It's from a 22.04 system (I don't have 23.04 installed), but /etc/default/grub has not seen a lot of changes over time. I hope it helps.--- /etc/default/grub.dist 2022-05-03 13:21:59.549524751 -0400 +++ /etc/default/grub 2023-02-09 11:47:33.777429559 -0500 @@ -3,11 +3,12 @@ # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: # info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' -GRUB_DEFAULT=0 -GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden -GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 +GRUB_DEFAULT=saved +GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true +#GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden +GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` -GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" +GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Latest Ubuntu For a CD
On 5/11/2020 2:24 PM, Glenn K0LNY wrote: > Hi, > I want to install Ubuntu on a computer with 512 mb of RAM, and it only has a > CD drive. > I think Ubuntu 16 is probably the latest version that will run on that amount > of RAM. > But the ISO will only fit on a DVD, and this drive only has a CD drive, and > the BIOS or boot options don't recognize a USB for boot options. > I know that there are minimal boot downloads, but are there any that come > with Orca? > Thanks. > Glenn Maybe the BIOS supports netbooting? I used this method recently on an old desktop from 2002 and on an old 2004 laptop whose DVD drive wasn't working, to install Debian Buster. I used my ASUS router with merlin firmware as the netboot (aka PXE boot) server which served the installation media from a USB drive over the home network. If it's not supported by your router, you can set up the netbooting services on just about any flavor of Linux, it's just a little more complicated. There are many guides on the internet explaining how to do it. I don't need Orca, so I don't know if Debian Buster installation media supports it. I do know Ubuntu 18.04 did provide 32 bit installation media, IF the CPU supports PAE. The LXDE flavor, Lubuntu 18.04 might run in 512MB RAM? I don't know if their installation media has Orca, though. If you do try a ubuntu 18.04 flavor, stick with 18.04.1. The newer point releases have newer kernels that might not play nice on old hardware. Even later 4.15 kernels that came with 18.04 updates caused problems on my old laptop due to mitigations for CPU vulnerabilities, like SPECTRE. If you find the computer is unstable after upgrading, try using the kernel parameter, nopti, for no page table isolation. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Dual booting messes with Windows Time
On 4/10/2017 11:44 PM, Glenn At Home wrote: Hi, I noticed my computer clock was hours off, in the future. I did some research, and found the following link: http://lifehacker.com/5742148/fix-windows-clock-issues-when-dual-booting-with-os-x I had just boot up to Ubuntu and rebooted into Windows, and noticed the problem. So maybe I need to check the time in Linux when I boot up with that drive. Where in Ubuntu does one check the clock settings, to automatically check time? I'm currently in Windows, so I can't check it, but I'm guessing that in settings there is something for the clock there. This computer is only about a year old, so it would not be the cMos battery. Glenn Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV “Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances.” Benjamin Franklin It's not the time, it's the timezone. It is more likely the problem is due to the fact that Windows and Ubuntu make different assumptions about what timezone the computer's CMOS clock is set to. Windows assumes it is local time. Ubuntu assumes it is UTC. That Lifehacker article describes a registry hack to change Windows to assume the CMOS clock is set to UTC. I don't recommend that hack, because last I knew it wasn't fully supported by Microsoft, even in Windows 10. So what I do is change Ubuntu's assumption, using the timedatectl command: timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 See the following for more info: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/time HTH, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: cloning /dev/sda1
Forgot to mention that neither /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdc1 should be mounted to resize and clone the file systems. On 9/20/2014 1:39 PM, Lenny wrote: > Hi All, > I found that ntfsclone is already there. > I am using /dev/sdc1, another 4GB SD card to try to make another copy of > /dev/sda1. > I am not wanting to make a file, but just copy all the files over to the SD > card. > I mounted /dev/sdc1 as /mnt. > I try: > ntfsclone /dev/sda1 /mnt > and that does not work. > Any suggestions? > All the web pages I read on this gets quite convoluted, and if it takes more > than one or two CLI commands, I would prefer a GUI interface to do this. > Thanks for any help. > Glenn > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: cloning /dev/sda1
First, /dev/sdc1 must be the same size or larger than /dev/sda1. Or you must resize /dev/sda1 to be the same size as or smaller than /dev/sdc1. Gparted can do the resizing. Once that's done, the following command should clone the filesystem on /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdc1: ntfsclone --overwrite /dev/sdc1 /dev/sda1 HTH, Helen On 9/20/2014 1:39 PM, Lenny wrote: > Hi All, > I found that ntfsclone is already there. > I am using /dev/sdc1, another 4GB SD card to try to make another copy of > /dev/sda1. > I am not wanting to make a file, but just copy all the files over to the SD > card. > I mounted /dev/sdc1 as /mnt. > I try: > ntfsclone /dev/sda1 /mnt > and that does not work. > Any suggestions? > All the web pages I read on this gets quite convoluted, and if it takes more > than one or two CLI commands, I would prefer a GUI interface to do this. > Thanks for any help. > Glenn > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how to make an image of /dev/sda1
On 9/19/2014 10:19 PM, David Sexton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first mount the sd card
> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
>
> and then
>
> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/mnt/mybackup
>
> dd will copy the whole partition including blank space and so might not fit
> on your 4gb sd card.
>
> If you can reinstall xp then it would be better to just backup your important
> documents
>
>
> David
If you installed XP onto an NTFS file system, ntfsclone is more efficient than
dd. I also compress the image using gzip. To backup an NTFS file system, this
is the shell script I use:
timestamp=`date '+%y%m%d'`
BACKUP_DEV=${BACKUP_DEV:-/dev/sda1}
BASE=`basename $BACKUP_DEV`
(ntfsclone --save-image -o- $BACKUP_DEV |gzip -c >ntfs-${BASE}-$timestamp.gz)
2>ntfs-${BASE}-$timestamp.out
And to restore:
timestamp=
BACKUP_DEV=${BACKUP_DEV:-/dev/sda1}
BASE=`basename $BACKUP_DEV`
zcat ntfs-${BASE}-$timestamp.gz |ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite
$BACKUP_DEV -
HTH,
Helen
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Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
I would love to know if there's one mailing list that would allow me to reach the widest audience. I don't know if I'm up to joining ten different lists. For what it's worth, last night, Ron Whyte (aka Fudge) set up an IRC channel, #MythSpeech, on irc.freenode.net. I'm there now and expect to be whenever I'm online, so maybe that's a good place to direct people interested in this subject? Regards, Helen On 12/23/2012 03:15 AM, B. Henry wrote: The problem, with these older releases is that the later orca releases only run on unity, and I think really only 12.04 and to a point 11.10 work well enough to be viable. The reason then later orca versions are needed are so that some QT support is available. I know nothing about the details of what QT programs work and which don't. GTK+ is pretty much what Orca worked with until about a year ago. I'll post your original post as well as these replies to a couple other lists and perhaps get up more interest. I'm going to sleep right now, but I'll get off a few e-mails tomorrow. The Vinux list is an especially good place as there are over 300 blind and low vision subscribers, and while many are mixed OS-users, others like myself use Linux as their primary or only OS. Vinux is basically just Ubuntu with some special tweaks, some settings preconfigured to be more speech and magnifier friendly and some extra scripts and different software choices again to make things work as well out of the box for blind and low vision folk. Then there's a private list for some blind Linux students and another small googlegroup/mailing list for folks interested in open-source and accessibility. Hopefully between these lists and my twitter and facebook contacts I can find some other interested people. Thanks again, and I will be in touch. On 12/22/2012 05:18 PM, faginbagin wrote: Hi B.H. (an anyone else using an older distribution) If there's interest, I can see what it would take to get mythspeech working on 10.04. As it happens, my "production" MythTV environment consists of machines running 10.04 and 10.10 (for TV tuners that needed a newer kernel), with MythTV 0.23. Regards, Helen P.S. Time to sign off until tomorrow. On 12/22/2012 05:13 PM, B. Henry wrote: does this software have a CLI, or is this only interacted with via the qt interface? I am a native English speaker, but speak more Spanish than English these days, for some years now, so perhaps I could be of some assistance. I don't currently have a version of Ubuntu that allows the use of the latest Orca and thus QT however. This will be changing soon, but for now I'm using a combination of 10.04 and 11.04 and xdesktop orca. Sounds very interesting, and I'll for sure be giving this a try when possible. -- Regards, B.H. On 12/22/2012 03:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Hi B.H. The current implementation of mythspeech doesn't depend on Qt or Orca. It does depend on speech-dispatcher, it's library libspeechd, and a speech synthesizer, e.g. espeak or festival. The versions provided on precise 12.04 is 0.7.1 for speech-dispatcher/libspeechd and 1.46.02 for espeak. The versions provided on lucid 10.04 is 0.6.8 for speech-dispatcher/libspeechd and 1.43.03 for espeak. The lucid 10.04 version might be "good enough" to support mythspeech. I see that the latest version of Vinux, 3.0.2, is based on Ubuntu 10.04.4. I believe that also means Vinux uses the Ubuntu 10.04 repositories. So, if you install mythtv 0.23 on Vinux, I should be able to provide a mythspeech that will work on Vinux without you needing to compile anything from source. If there's at least one person who would be willing to install and configure MythTV 0.23 and test mythspeech on either Vinux 3.0.2 or Ubuntu/Mythbuntu 10.04 or 10.10, I'd be happy to see if I can backport mythspeech. Regards, Helen On 12/23/2012 03:15 AM, B. Henry wrote: The problem, with these older releases is that the later orca releases only run on unity, and I think really only 12.04 and to a point 11.10 work well enough to be viable. The reason then later orca versions are needed are so that some QT support is available. I know nothing about the details of what QT programs work and which don't. GTK+ is pretty much what Orca worked with until about a year ago. I'll post your original post as well as these replies to a couple other lists and perhaps get up more interest. I'm going to sleep right now, but I'll get off a few e-mails tomorrow. The Vinux list is an especially good place as there are over 300 blind and low vision subscribers, and while many are mixed OS-users, others like myself use Linux as their primary or only OS. Vinux is basically just Ubuntu with some special tweaks, some settings preconfigured to be more speech and magnifier friendly and some extra scripts and different software choices again to make things work as well out of the box for blind and low vision folk. Then there's a private list for some blind Linux students and another small googlegroup/mailing list for folks interested in open-source and accessibility. Hopefully between these lists and my twitter and facebook contacts I can find some other interested people. Thanks again, and I will be in touch. On 12/22/2012 05:18 PM, faginbagin wrote: Hi B.H. (an anyone else using an older distribution) If there's interest, I can see what it would take to get mythspeech working on 10.04. As it happens, my "production" MythTV environment consists of machines running 10.04 and 10.10 (for TV tuners that needed a newer kernel), with MythTV 0.23. Regards, Helen P.S. Time to sign off until tomorrow. On 12/22/2012 05:13 PM, B. Henry wrote: does this software have a CLI, or is this only interacted with via the qt interface? I am a native English speaker, but speak more Spanish than English these days, for some years now, so perhaps I could be of some assistance. I don't currently have a version of Ubuntu that allows the use of the latest Orca and thus QT however. This will be changing soon, but for now I'm using a combination of 10.04 and 11.04 and xdesktop orca. Sounds very interesting, and I'll for sure be giving this a try when possible. -- Regards, B.H. On 12/22/2012 03:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Hi B.H. (an anyone else using an older distribution) If there's interest, I can see what it would take to get mythspeech working on 10.04. As it happens, my "production" MythTV environment consists of machines running 10.04 and 10.10 (for TV tuners that needed a newer kernel), with MythTV 0.23. Regards, Helen P.S. Time to sign off until tomorrow. On 12/22/2012 05:13 PM, B. Henry wrote: does this software have a CLI, or is this only interacted with via the qt interface? I am a native English speaker, but speak more Spanish than English these days, for some years now, so perhaps I could be of some assistance. I don't currently have a version of Ubuntu that allows the use of the latest Orca and thus QT however. This will be changing soon, but for now I'm using a combination of 10.04 and 11.04 and xdesktop orca. Sounds very interesting, and I'll for sure be giving this a try when possible. -- Regards, B.H. On 12/22/2012 03:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Hi All, I just realized that my replies to those who have responded have been private, which was not what I intended. So, I am about to re-send those to the list. My apologies in advance to those who are about to see duplicate messages. Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
On 12/22/2012 06:00 PM, Hank Smith wrote: wasn't it written in qt to begin with? if so why can't they just inable accessibility? or would that involve writing intire code to impl;iment qt accessibility? Yes, it was written in Qt. However MythTV's user interface objects are not subclassed from Qt's widgets, so you can't take advantage of Qt's accessibily without changing MythTV's source. FWIW, the MythTV devs chose not to use QT widgets because they were designed for a 2 foot user interace, while MythTV is designed for an average 10 foot user interface. thanks Hank On 12/22/2012 3:39 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: Hello, I understand mithtv is full solution but writing qt accessibility support is going to be damn complicated. It is a huge codebase and no one has ever considered accessibility before. I would be happy if something like this existed but I think it is not a project for a few open-source developers developing in their spare time. BTW do you know projects such as gnome dvb daemon or tvheadent? These dont implement user interface and perfecting and / or writing a totem plugin for these would be avesome as well. Those apps can be setup without eye sight even now however gnome dvb daemon is somewhat buggy and not used frequently and tvheadent is stable, has web based interface. There is excelent fully accessible client for Android for it. So maybe oneday someone will like to create accessible client app for linux as well. Greetings Peter On 22. 12. 2012 22:45, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
On 12/22/2012 05:39 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: Hello, I understand mithtv is full solution but writing qt accessibility support is going to be damn complicated. It is a huge codebase and no one has ever considered accessibility before. I would be happy if something like this existed but I think it is not a project for a few open-source developers developing in their spare time. The problem I have is: will it be more complicated, and more kludgy than trying to extend what I've done by building on MythTV's support for LCD displays? All of MythTV's user interface objects are subclasses of a base MythUI class, and there aren't that many subclasses. I think an approach based on Qt accessibility is doable. FWIW, I'm retired and I used to be a pretty good developer, so I think I have the ability and the time to make MythTV accessible to those with no or poor vision. Another problem I have, before investing more time and effort, is whether the mythtv devs would be likely to accept my work into the mainline source code. For that, I think I need to demonstrate there's a "market" for talking mythtv. That's why I joined this list. Although mythspeech is not a complete solution, it is a starting point and I would love it if I could recruit some more users. BTW do you know projects such as gnome dvb daemon or tvheadent? These dont implement user interface and perfecting and / or writing a totem plugin for these would be avesome as well. Those apps can be setup without eye sight even now however gnome dvb daemon is somewhat buggy and not used frequently and tvheadent is stable, has web based interface. There is excelent fully accessible client for Android for it. So maybe oneday someone will like to create accessible client app for linux as well. No, I am not familiar with those. I am a MythTV user, and a retired developer, looking for ways to combine my interests and my skills. I'm not so sure I'm ready to learn about projects that do less (from my perspective) than MythTV. Greetings Peter On 22. 12. 2012 22:45, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Mythspeech is a result of posts on both the mythtv-users and the mythtv-dev mailing lists: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/524971 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/530199 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/525790 There was no response on the mythtv-dev list. Helen On 12/22/2012 05:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote: the mytv team directly. I to am on both ubuntu lists and they are pritty quiet. hth Hank On 12/22/2012 3:18 PM, faginbagin wrote: Hi Hank, Would that be through the ubuntu-accessibility-devel list? I looked through the archives for that list and it seems pretty quiet. There are occasional posts by people asking questions, but no replies. That's why I haven't joined and posted there. If you have other suggestions, I welcome them. Helen On 12/22/2012 05:10 PM, Hank Smith wrote: please try to reach out to the developers. this program I am also told is one of the better tv sulutions for linux. Hank On 12/22/2012 2:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Hi B.H. No it doesn't have a CLI to speak of, although there are a number of command line utilities and there is support for a "frontend control socket" (see http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.5). There is also a web interface called mythweb where you can browse program listings, manage recordings, and some limited configuration after you've done most of the setup/configuration in mythtv-setup. HTH, Helen On 12/22/2012 05:13 PM, B. Henry wrote: does this software have a CLI, or is this only interacted with via the qt interface? I am a native English speaker, but speak more Spanish than English these days, for some years now, so perhaps I could be of some assistance. I don't currently have a version of Ubuntu that allows the use of the latest Orca and thus QT however. This will be changing soon, but for now I'm using a combination of 10.04 and 11.04 and xdesktop orca. Sounds very interesting, and I'll for sure be giving this a try when possible. -- Regards, B.H. On 12/22/2012 03:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
Hi Hank, Would that be through the ubuntu-accessibility-devel list? I looked through the archives for that list and it seems pretty quiet. There are occasional posts by people asking questions, but no replies. That's why I haven't joined and posted there. If you have other suggestions, I welcome them. Helen On 12/22/2012 05:10 PM, Hank Smith wrote: please try to reach out to the developers. this program I am also told is one of the better tv sulutions for linux. Hank On 12/22/2012 2:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: "Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier!" How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
