Re: Accessible Login in 12.04?
Hy Luke, CTRL+S works correct, thank you the answer. I have got some question and experiences, sorri if my questions is trivial, but I now using first LightDM with accessible login feature. 1. How can possible choosing different user? If I press arrow keys, usual hear give my username password, or hear a button. Or this function is not full accessible yet? Need enabling a GDM style user list in LightDm configuration? Possible doing this? Oldest time in GDM login screen all awailable users present default a list, with possible choose required user to log in. If pressed ENTER key the selected user, possible write password, and switch session. 2. If I try using flat review in the Unity greeter, I think Orca is freezing. I unable to debug Orca level this situation yet. Possible changing local Orca execution command to generate Orca a debug.out file, or this is already known issue? 3. If I activate indicator menu in Unity greeter with F10 key, choosing some menu items and press ESCAPE key, the menue is doesn't leave, or Orca not refresh the screen content. My braille display this is absolute presenting. 4. What the difference with Unity Greeter and LightDm gtk greeter? LightDm Gtk greeter is possible using, this greeter more accessible? Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessible Login in 12.04?
Hy, I see happened an upgrade with Casper package, to migrate LightDm a11y settings with GSettings, because Unity Greeter using GSettings. When I try use an installed system in terminal the sudo -u lightdm gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false command, I get following error: hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ sudo -u lightdm gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false ** WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=57457bea3de3d18c6e5b5034000d --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nNo protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n ** WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=57457bea3de3d18c6e5b5034000d --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nNo protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ Look what the result if I run sudo -u lightdm gsettings get com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader command: hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ sudo -u lightdm gsettings get com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false During installation this GSettings key with LightDm are setting properly? How can possible enable an installed Ubuntu 12.04 system the screen reader support in login screen if this error is present? Temporary need sighted assistance? Alan, when you tested the accessible login with screen reader when you reported the proper bug, how can enabled this function? Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessible Login in 12.04?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:16:01PM EST, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy, I see happened an upgrade with Casper package, to migrate LightDm a11y settings with GSettings, because Unity Greeter using GSettings. When I try use an installed system in terminal the sudo -u lightdm gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false command, I get following error: hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ sudo -u lightdm gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false ** WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=57457bea3de3d18c6e5b5034000d --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nNo protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n ** WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=57457bea3de3d18c6e5b5034000d --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nNo protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ The reason why that doesn't work is due to the way gsettings works. Gsettings supports multiple backend data storage formats, one of which is dconf. Dconf is the default data storage format, which is a database stored at the system/user level. When gsettings wants to use dconf, it communicates via dbus to a dconf service process that runs as the user. This dconf service process makes the requested changes. So the above doesn't work, because there is no dconf service running as the lightdm user when you are logged into the system as another user. Look what the result if I run sudo -u lightdm gsettings get com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader command: hammera@hammera-Satellite-L300:~$ sudo -u lightdm gsettings get com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false I have seen this myself. I suspect either there is some caching going on somewhere, or the gsettings dconf backend can read the database itself, but cannot write. During installation this GSettings key with LightDm are setting properly? Yes, when the screen reader profile is enabled, this key now gets set. That was one of the changes in the updated casper package. How can possible enable an installed Ubuntu 12.04 system the screen reader support in login screen if this error is present? Temporary need sighted assistance? Control + S should work in the unity-greeter, however there are some weird focus issues when unity-greeter first loads, which for some reason prevent control + S from working. If you tab to the session selection box, and shift-tab back to the password prompt or login button, and then press Control + S, Orca should load. When you press Control + S, the screen reader will be active for every subsequent use of unity-greeter, until its turned off again. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Accessible Login in 12.04?
Hi, Does the 12.04 Beta 1 have an accessible login greeter? When last I used 11.10, lightdm was not accessible with orca. Cheers, Dave_H -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessible Login in 12.04?
I haven't brought up 12.04 in a little bit, but the last time I tried Alpha 2, lightdm still wasn't accessible. I haven't taken a look at Beta 1 yet. BTW, because of this, I mostly just use auto log on now, although I know that doesn't answer your question. On 04/03/12 17:52, Dave Hunt wrote: Hi, Does the 12.04 Beta 1 have an accessible login greeter? When last I used 11.10, lightdm was not accessible with orca. Cheers, Dave_H -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessible Login in 12.04?
Hi. I installed beta 1 yesterday and orca doesn't speak in the login. On 03/04/2012 09:48 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't brought up 12.04 in a little bit, but the last time I tried Alpha 2, lightdm still wasn't accessible. I haven't taken a look at Beta 1 yet. BTW, because of this, I mostly just use auto log on now, although I know that doesn't answer your question. On 04/03/12 17:52, Dave Hunt wrote: Hi, Does the 12.04 Beta 1 have an accessible login greeter? When last I used 11.10, lightdm was not accessible with orca. Cheers, Dave_H -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
