Re: Changing Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Hammer Attila hamm...@pickup.hu wrote: Hy Dave, Feel free you put with you worked final steps with a Wiki page, I am not have accessing yet any Wiki page. Of course if you suggest me a Wiki page with have public editing possibility, I welcome doing this. Attila Attila, Can you not use the Ubuntu Accessibility wiki pages ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility )? If you have a launchpad account it uses the same sign-on information. If you don't want to put it up, I'm more than happy to, though. Thanks, Penelope -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Changing Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10
Hy Penelope, Thank You the tip, I of course have Launchpad account. If not a big request, can you possible doing this task? Unfortunately I haven't got enough experiences yet with proper viki page documents related formattings sintax, and don't would like doing extra works with documentation correctors. I will be reading the Wiki page related community documentation if I have more time, but now have lot of another works with I need finalizing before december 21th the company with I working. This wiki page is a wonderful possibility to share all A11y related informations and workarounds. I wrote a text with all I used modifications in GNOME3 fallback session, but possible need correcting my horrible english sentences with grammaticaly before you uploading this new article with proper wiki page, because my primary language is hungarian. :-):-) If you would like, feel free to shortest the documentation. Hopefuly this detailed text documentation help more users if would like using GNOME3 fallback session with a better A11y support. Attila Switching from Unity Desktop to GNOME3 fallback session in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Installing the GNOME3 fallback session related packages and dependencies First, you ensure already enabled with the universe and multiverse repositories. Default the universe and multiverse repositoryes is not enabled. If you would like enabling this repositoryes, launch the software-properties-gtk preference tool, and enable this repositoryes. You are possible to launch software-properties-gtk preference tool for example with sudo software-properties-gtk command in gnome-terminal. If the universe and multiverse repositoryes is enabled, you need install gnome-session-fallback package. You possible using the Software Center or Synaptic this purpose, or possible using in terminal with following command: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback Changing the desktop session from Unity to GNOME3 fallback session Because LightDm login screen is not accessible for Orca Screen Reader, you manual need changing the desktop session. The simplest way is following this task: 1. Open the terminal with CTRL+ALT+T keystroke. 2. Run sudo gedit /var/lib/AccountsService/users/yourusername command to open the actual used session related configuration file. If for example your username is john, the proper path is following: /var/lib/AccountsService/users/jon The opened file default containing similar lines: [User] XSession=ubuntu-2d If you would like logging in next time with GNOME3 fallback session, you need replacing for example the XSession=ubuntu-2d line with XSession=gnome-fallback line. Save the file, and reboot the system. Final customizations When you logged again your system, you already have in the GNOME3 fallback session. Following part containing optional modification suggestion to prowide the new desktop session with better A11y experience: Fixing system menue inaccessibility related problem Unfortunately GNOME3 developers removed with the old System menue in the fallback session. Unfortunately, this modification are resulted visualy impaired users unable to access the importanter functions for example with the actual username awailable submenue (unable to change actual user status, launch system settings, log out, switch user, or shutdown the system. Now, have only one known workaround to prewent this problem: 1. Press Control+Alt+TAB keystroke, and go to the top extended panel. 2. Delete this panel. Press SHIFT+F10 keystroke, and choose the Delete this panel. 3. Go to bottom extended panel, and press SHIFT+F10 keystroke. Choose the create new panel menu item. 4. In the empty panel, you need add the main menu applet, and optional the Clock, Notification Area applets. This last two applet is need only if you are not would like using GNOME3 ported Indicator applets development version. This modifications are resulting you an one column menue system. If you are press ALT+F1 keystroke, you are possible accessing all importanter menu items. You will be see your username realted submenue, possible log out, switch user, or shutdown the system with keyboard usage. Using indicators under GNOME3 fallback session Unfortunately GNOME3 Indicator Applets porting related works is not finished before Ubuntu 11.10 development cicle. GNOME3 ported indicator applets is already awailable with an external PPA repository. If you would like using the Ubuntu Natty release awailable indicators under GNOME3 fallback session, you need doing following steps: 1. Open the Terminal with CTRL+ALT+T keystroke. 2. Run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jconti/gnome3 command. 3. Run sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-complete command. 4. Go to for example with top extended panel the CTRL+ALT+TAB keystroke. Press Shift+F10 keystroke, and choose the Add the panel... menu item. If you would like using all indicators with a single applet, you need add the
Changing Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10
Hi, People, Hammer Atilla, of the blind Ubuntuers' community, offered me the solution, below, for changing the Ubuntu 11.10 desktop session, eyes,free. This seems to work. The 'dbus' command, offered by Luke, has not yet worked for me. Maybe Hammer's offering should be placed in a wiki or faq site someplace? HTH, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Changing Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10
Hy Dave, Feel free you put with you worked final steps with a Wiki page, I am not have accessing yet any Wiki page. Of course if you suggest me a Wiki page with have public editing possibility, I welcome doing this. To any user possible doing a good working fallback session style desktop, need doing other steps, because for example the factory awailable GNOME main menue not possible accessing keyboard the third System menue awailable functions. Because not have better method yet, I deleted entire top panel, created a new panel, and added following applets before I not found jconti/gnome3 PPA and the GNOME3 ported indicator-applet packages: - clock - Notification area - Main menu applet If any user would like installing indicator-applet-complete GNOME3 ported package and want add the all indicator applet in the panel, to get good visual lookup not need adding I think the clock and notification area applet, but I am not full sure this, so this is need confirming a sighted or partialy sighted user. This changes resulted me an one column dropdowned main menue with are possible accessing all now missing importanter menu items (actual username related submenue with possible changing the status and launch system settings preference tool, shutdown, switch user, logout menu items). Have a disadwantage this method, if you press ALT+F1 keystroke, Orca does'nt spokening the first awailable menu item, because the first menu item is not focused automaticaly I think the GNOME Main Menu applet. If future hopefuly resolving developers following bug, this step doesn't need: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662913 Launchpad bugreport link is following: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/846254 Because I added the all indicators applet my top panel, if I press Super+S keystroke, I see all installed indicators, similar with Natty. I very wait when Precise officialy awailable the GNOME3 ported indicator applets, but before this is happening, developers need resolving following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/724369 If I remember right, when an user installed the gnome-session-fallback package and first doing the session change, the ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 keybindings are disabled, so this keystrokes need assigning with proper functions in the GNOME Control Center Keyboard preference pane. Need going the keybindings page, choosing the system section and associate the proper commands with the ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 keybindings. I using now my testing Precise system this way with GNOME3 fallback session without any problems. The best desktop session switch method I think Luke suggested command, but I don't no why not working right the suggested command with I pasted my letter in Orca-list. Possible not a full elegant way session change method with editing the /var/lib/AccountsService/actual username related file and changing direct the session if have a better alternative, better put I think Luke working command a Wiki page, because this command doing session change on the fly if I understanding right Luke pasted letter part. The pasted letter part is following: Ok, here is a command that should change your session to unity-2d, without you having to log out and stop lightdm. This should worok 100%. You need to know what your user ID is, not your user name your user ID number. To find this out, open a terminal and run: echo $UID Make a note of the number you hear, you will need it in the next command. To make the change, run this command: dbus-send --type=method_call --system --reply-timeout=1000 --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User$uid org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetXSession string:ubuntu-2d Where $uid is your user ID number, mine is 1000. accessibility at login will certainly be fixed for precise, and may be fixed in oneiric as well, depending on how invasive the fix is. Hope this helps. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
