Re: [Off Topic] sound car
Hi mk360, I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what was said: (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse. (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa *cwillu cwillu_at_work * (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as per the instructions and pulse will see it ? (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version of alsa that's already included isn't working? (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive - (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do different things (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ? (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is what talks to applications (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already checked alsamixer levels? (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual installation looks quite involed !! (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa that doesn't sound good.. (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the volume was too low (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually installing it ? (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should be just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and the sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. If it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be) rather than just applying a workaround (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the bugs don't actually get fixed (16:44:23) phillw: . (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be back ;-) Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1 Regards, Phill. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 mk.seventh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. Here is the readme file: The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec Support Codec list: AC97 Codec= ALC100,100P ALC200,200P ALC650D ALC650E ALC650F ALC650 ALC655 ALC653 ALC658 ALC658D ALC850 ALC101 ALC202 ALC250 ALC203 HD Audio codec ALC260 ALC262 ALC267 ALC268 ALC259 ALC269 ALC270 ALC272 ALC275 ALC660 ALC660VD ALC661 ALC662 ALC663 ALC665 ALC670 ALC861 ALC861VD ALC880 ALC882 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 ALC889A ALC892 Installation: This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org. For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit. For driver installation, please follow below steps. Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution) execute ./install Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install. Run commands need to add sudo at first words. Manual install: Step 1. unzip source code tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2 Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config (soundcore module, default turn on) Step 3. Complied source code a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)= for HDA options c. make d. make install e. alsaconf Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution (Please refer to the attached modules.conf) snd- is the card ID. -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 - snd-hda-intel -- AC97 controller --ALC655 ALC650 ALC250 ALC255 --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 , SiS 7012 and NVidia-- snd-intel8x0 --- Via8233 Via686a
Re: [Off Topic] sound car
First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse better :). I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens... The model is realtek ALC 880. Thanks again. mk. - Original Message - From: Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net To: mk360 mk.seventh...@gmail.com Cc: Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car Hi mk360, I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what was said: (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse. (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa *cwillu cwillu_at_work * (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as per the instructions and pulse will see it ? (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version of alsa that's already included isn't working? (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive - (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do different things (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ? (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is what talks to applications (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already checked alsamixer levels? (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual installation looks quite involed !! (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa that doesn't sound good.. (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the volume was too low (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually installing it ? (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should be just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and the sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. If it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be) rather than just applying a workaround (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the bugs don't actually get fixed (16:44:23) phillw: . (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be back ;-) Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1 Regards, Phill. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 mk.seventh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the manufacturer, but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid. Here is the readme file: The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14 Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec Support Codec list: AC97 Codec= ALC100,100P ALC200,200P ALC650D ALC650E ALC650F ALC650 ALC655 ALC653 ALC658 ALC658D ALC850 ALC101 ALC202 ALC250 ALC203 HD Audio codec ALC260 ALC262 ALC267 ALC268 ALC259 ALC269 ALC270 ALC272 ALC275 ALC660 ALC660VD ALC661 ALC662 ALC663 ALC665 ALC670 ALC861 ALC861VD ALC880 ALC882 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888 ALC889A ALC892 Installation: This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org. For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit. For driver installation, please follow below steps. Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution) execute ./install Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install. Run commands need to add sudo at first words. Manual install: Step 1. unzip source code tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2 Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config (soundcore module, default turn on) Step 3. Complied source code a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx b
