Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
This is odd, as I made a test of that ppa before announcing it, and I was able to use Orca to interact with unity and the panel. Probably it worked due some kind of development stuff on my laptop. I will check it for the next update. Thanks for the feedback. BR On 10/16/2011 06:04 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Oh, and something else I noticed just now that's probably worth mentioning: I installed Unity from the accessibility PPA. Before doing that, I'm pretty sure the extra, non-app menu items in the bar spoke (I.e. for wireless/network control, sound, etc.) Now after upgrading they no longer speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA. Thanks. On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my initial impressions. I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to try without installing. Running manually works, but consistency would rule. Had some issues with the install, but those weren't accessibility related. My new installation didn't come up talking. I had to run Orca manually, enable accessibility and log back out and in. My expectation was that it'd come up talking as soon as I logged in. Along similar lines, Orca doesn't run automatically. I have to start it manually. This despite my impression that the screen reader toggle in the accessibility settings screen is enabled. I can't seem to find a Run Orca on startup option in Orca's preferences anymore. Unity seems quite keyboard accessible. Going to need time to get used to the many new commands. My timezone is incorrect and I can't figure out how to reset it. In Time and Date I see a text area containing the location New York, but I can't figure a way to set this to anything local to me. I tried entering Chicago since that's usually the timezone I choose, but that doesn't seem to take. Lots of widgets seem to be misrepresented as checkboxes. In particular, many menu items appear this way. I'm not clear on how to navigate some of the panels in Unity 2D. They're also said to be inaccessible even though I did get some feedback from Orca at one point. All notifications speak Notification: notify-osd. I have to look at .cache/notify-osd.log to see what I missed. While this is a long list of negatives, I'm quite impressed at how accessible things are after such a major change. I probably won't put 11.10 on my main machine for now, but I'm enjoying playing with it on the netbook. -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 via Wubi on my laptop about an hour ago, and I have not used the a11y PPA. I was able to access the wireless icon normally, if that is of any help to you. I find that it is actually working wonderfully using Orca. On 10/15/2011 09:04 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Oh, and something else I noticed just now that's probably worth mentioning: I installed Unity from the accessibility PPA. Before doing that, I'm pretty sure the extra, non-app menu items in the bar spoke (I.e. for wireless/network control, sound, etc.) Now after upgrading they no longer speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA. Thanks. On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my initial impressions. I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to try without installing. Running manually works, but consistency would rule. Had some issues with the install, but those weren't accessibility related. My new installation didn't come up talking. I had to run Orca manually, enable accessibility and log back out and in. My expectation was that it'd come up talking as soon as I logged in. Along similar lines, Orca doesn't run automatically. I have to start it manually. This despite my impression that the screen reader toggle in the accessibility settings screen is enabled. I can't seem to find a Run Orca on startup option in Orca's preferences anymore. Unity seems quite keyboard accessible. Going to need time to get used to the many new commands. My timezone is incorrect and I can't figure out how to reset it. In Time and Date I see a text area containing the location New York, but I can't figure a way to set this to anything local to me. I tried entering Chicago since that's usually the timezone I choose, but that doesn't seem to take. Lots of widgets seem to be misrepresented as checkboxes. In particular, many menu items appear this way. I'm not clear on how to navigate some of the panels in Unity 2D. They're also said to be inaccessible even though I did get some feedback from Orca at one point. All notifications speak Notification: notify-osd. I have to look at .cache/notify-osd.log to see what I missed. While this is a long list of negatives, I'm quite impressed at how accessible things are after such a major change. I probably won't put 11.10 on my main machine for now, but I'm enjoying playing with it on the netbook. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
Yeah, after installing from the PPA I appear to not only have lost the launcher menus, but access to any menu content. That is, if I'm in the terminal and press F10, I can't down-arrow into the various submenus. Hope this gets fixed soon. On 10/16/2011 01:04 AM, Robert Cole wrote: Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 via Wubi on my laptop about an hour ago, and I have not used the a11y PPA. I was able to access the wireless icon normally, if that is of any help to you. I find that it is actually working wonderfully using Orca. On 10/15/2011 09:04 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Oh, and something else I noticed just now that's probably worth mentioning: I installed Unity from the accessibility PPA. Before doing that, I'm pretty sure the extra, non-app menu items in the bar spoke (I.e. for wireless/network control, sound, etc.) Now after upgrading they no longer speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA. Thanks. On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my initial impressions. I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to try without installing. Running manually works, but consistency would rule. Had some issues with the install, but those weren't accessibility related. My new installation didn't come up talking. I had to run Orca manually, enable accessibility and log back out and in. My expectation was that it'd come up talking as soon as I logged in. Along similar lines, Orca doesn't run automatically. I have to start it manually. This despite my impression that the screen reader toggle in the accessibility settings screen is enabled. I can't seem to find a Run Orca on startup option in Orca's preferences anymore. Unity seems quite keyboard accessible. Going to need time to get used to the many new commands. My timezone is incorrect and I can't figure out how to reset it. In Time and Date I see a text area containing the location New York, but I can't figure a way to set this to anything local to me. I tried entering Chicago since that's usually the timezone I choose, but that doesn't seem to take. Lots of widgets seem to be misrepresented as checkboxes. In particular, many menu items appear this way. I'm not clear on how to navigate some of the panels in Unity 2D. They're also said to be inaccessible even though I did get some feedback from Orca at one point. All notifications speak Notification: notify-osd. I have to look at .cache/notify-osd.log to see what I missed. While this is a long list of negatives, I'm quite impressed at how accessible things are after such a major change. I probably won't put 11.10 on my main machine for now, but I'm enjoying playing with it on the netbook. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
Hi guys, I just wanted to write and say that I have actually installed the extra-a11y ppa, and the wireless icons work beautifully by pressing f-10. Some times menus say image when you use the left and right arrow keys, but when you down-arrow into them, they work as advertised. Excellent work on 11.10 accessibility, and I look forward to using 12.04 when it is released. Thanks, Guy On 10/16/2011 02:04 AM, Robert Cole wrote: Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 via Wubi on my laptop about an hour ago, and I have not used the a11y PPA. I was able to access the wireless icon normally, if that is of any help to you. I find that it is actually working wonderfully using Orca. On 10/15/2011 09:04 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Oh, and something else I noticed just now that's probably worth mentioning: I installed Unity from the accessibility PPA. Before doing that, I'm pretty sure the extra, non-app menu items in the bar spoke (I.e. for wireless/network control, sound, etc.) Now after upgrading they no longer speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA. Thanks. On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my initial impressions. I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to try without installing. Running manually works, but consistency would rule. Had some issues with the install, but those weren't accessibility related. My new installation didn't come up talking. I had to run Orca manually, enable accessibility and log back out and in. My expectation was that it'd come up talking as soon as I logged in. Along similar lines, Orca doesn't run automatically. I have to start it manually. This despite my impression that the screen reader toggle in the accessibility settings screen is enabled. I can't seem to find a Run Orca on startup option in Orca's preferences anymore. Unity seems quite keyboard accessible. Going to need time to get used to the many new commands. My timezone is incorrect and I can't figure out how to reset it. In Time and Date I see a text area containing the location New York, but I can't figure a way to set this to anything local to me. I tried entering Chicago since that's usually the timezone I choose, but that doesn't seem to take. Lots of widgets seem to be misrepresented as checkboxes. In particular, many menu items appear this way. I'm not clear on how to navigate some of the panels in Unity 2D. They're also said to be inaccessible even though I did get some feedback from Orca at one point. All notifications speak Notification: notify-osd. I have to look at .cache/notify-osd.log to see what I missed. While this is a long list of negatives, I'm quite impressed at how accessible things are after such a major change. I probably won't put 11.10 on my main machine for now, but I'm enjoying playing with it on the netbook. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 02:46:48AM EST, Guy Schlosser wrote: Hi guys, I just wanted to write and say that I have actually installed the extra-a11y ppa, and the wireless icons work beautifully by pressing f-10. Some times menus say image when you use the left and right arrow keys, but when you down-arrow into them, they work as advertised. Excellent work on 11.10 accessibility, and I look forward to using 12.04 when it is released. This is one key area I want to get working right for Ubuntu Precise, hopefully to the point that if in the network list, you will hear the signal strength of the wireless networks available to you. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 08:29:54AM EST, Dave Hunt wrote: In either an Oneiric update or in Precise, knowing the signal strength, and whether the network is locked, would be great, as would speaking of the notifications. Maybe Orca bugs are responsible for one or both these annoyances? The network strength changes won't be in oneiric-updates, but precise only, due to the underlying infrastructure needing to be extended to provide sed information. As for notifications, that is a bug as a result of upstream changes in GTK. Getting notifications working again is something I do want to get into oneiric-updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Initial impressions of 11.10
Oh, and something else I noticed just now that's probably worth mentioning: I installed Unity from the accessibility PPA. Before doing that, I'm pretty sure the extra, non-app menu items in the bar spoke (I.e. for wireless/network control, sound, etc.) Now after upgrading they no longer speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA. Thanks. On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my initial impressions. I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to try without installing. Running manually works, but consistency would rule. Had some issues with the install, but those weren't accessibility related. My new installation didn't come up talking. I had to run Orca manually, enable accessibility and log back out and in. My expectation was that it'd come up talking as soon as I logged in. Along similar lines, Orca doesn't run automatically. I have to start it manually. This despite my impression that the screen reader toggle in the accessibility settings screen is enabled. I can't seem to find a Run Orca on startup option in Orca's preferences anymore. Unity seems quite keyboard accessible. Going to need time to get used to the many new commands. My timezone is incorrect and I can't figure out how to reset it. In Time and Date I see a text area containing the location New York, but I can't figure a way to set this to anything local to me. I tried entering Chicago since that's usually the timezone I choose, but that doesn't seem to take. Lots of widgets seem to be misrepresented as checkboxes. In particular, many menu items appear this way. I'm not clear on how to navigate some of the panels in Unity 2D. They're also said to be inaccessible even though I did get some feedback from Orca at one point. All notifications speak Notification: notify-osd. I have to look at .cache/notify-osd.log to see what I missed. While this is a long list of negatives, I'm quite impressed at how accessible things are after such a major change. I probably won't put 11.10 on my main machine for now, but I'm enjoying playing with it on the netbook. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
