Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Many thanks for clarification. Milton Op 12-12-15 om 02:02 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 07/12/2015 15:10, Milton wrote: Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? The algorithm used by the magnifier is not perfect zoom so when you increasing size the text and image can be pixelized. If you want to compare with Windows screen magnifier, you can compare with Windows built-in magnifier. ZoomText or some other screen magnifier have advanced algorithm that make the view on the screen very readable even if you zoom at 36 factor. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
On 07/12/2015 15:10, Milton wrote: Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? The algorithm used by the magnifier is not perfect zoom so when you increasing size the text and image can be pixelized. If you want to compare with Windows screen magnifier, you can compare with Windows built-in magnifier. ZoomText or some other screen magnifier have advanced algorithm that make the view on the screen very readable even if you zoom at 36 factor. -- Alex ARNAUD -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, Op 30-11-15 om 22:06 schreef Alex ARNAUD: > Can you give me more information about users : > - Are there visual impaired ? Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, Op 30-11-15 om 22:06 schreef Alex ARNAUD: Can you give me more information about users : - Are there visual impaired ? Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
On 30/11/2015 09:20, Milton wrote: Hi Alex, Hi Milton I only use Orca myself but often people ask me for magnification. Because I got no result in Unity and Gnome-flashback-Metacity I use Gnome-shell 3.10.4. OK, it's a very old version of Gnome that I haven't used. I used Gnome 3 since Gnome 3.16. I do not know the screen level because Orca do not say this. I use the build-in magnifyer, I toggel the zoom, zoom-in en zoom-out through the shortcut keys in Systemsettings > Keyboardsetting. So I did not check the magnification in the compizconfig-setting-manager. You can install CCSM because the information is provided by Accessibility section on Gnome settings panel. Can you give me more information about users : - Are there visual impaired ? - At which zoom level they find it blurry ? Personally I've a so bad view to find anything blurry. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
I am learning as I go with all this and my level of understanding is still not that great. I only recently suffered from low vision due to a retina tear in my left eye. My right eye has been next to useless since I was 14. I am now 62. I also have to configure Windoze 7 for my voluntary work that uses an app that only works through Internet Explorer. What I have found so far is that there are at least 3 or 4 approaches to achieving some degree of acceptable use in both Operating Systems. When it comes to clarity - then I have found that only comes with increased magnification but then I lose content so need to scroll more. I find Firefox brilliant for all its add-ons and currently use Nosquint and Theme Font & Size Changer to really get a browser experience that suits my needs. Add compiz to this which assists with zooming and I get by - just and even then I often need to resort to a hand-held magnifying glass. Talking of which- I am convinced that a lower tech solution can help so my optician is making up some specs for me purely for computer work - I take delivery Thursday and fully expect to go back to the drawing board to tweek my systems. DaveG -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, I only use Orca myself but often people ask me for magnification. Because I got no result in Unity and Gnome-flashback-Metacity I use Gnome-shell 3.10.4. I do not know the screen level because Orca do not say this. I use the build-in magnifyer, I toggel the zoom, zoom-in en zoom-out through the shortcut keys in Systemsettings > Keyboardsetting. So I did not check the magnification in the compizconfig-setting-manager. Milton Op 30-11-15 om 05:35 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 29/11/2015 19:24, Milton wrote: Hi List, Hi Milton I use Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18 and installed gnome-shell for someone to work with magnification. I also installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. Now I can toggle magnification on or off, zoom in and zoom out. The only thing left to be perfect is sharpness. The view is blurry. Did I miss something? Do you have tips for me? Can you explain your problem with more detailed ?. If I remember Gnome3 and Compiz aren't compatible. What desktop environment are you using and what screen magnifier ? At which level of zoom are you (6x/7x and more ?)? I believe but not sure the visual impaired community are mostly composed of blind people. We are a very little community that uses screen magnifier at the time but I expect with recent changes new user come to grow the Linux screen magnifier community. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
On 29/11/2015 19:24, Milton wrote: Hi List, Hi Milton I use Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18 and installed gnome-shell for someone to work with magnification. I also installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. Now I can toggle magnification on or off, zoom in and zoom out. The only thing left to be perfect is sharpness. The view is blurry. Did I miss something? Do you have tips for me? Can you explain your problem with more detailed ?. If I remember Gnome3 and Compiz aren't compatible. What desktop environment are you using and what screen magnifier ? At which level of zoom are you (6x/7x and more ?)? I believe but not sure the visual impaired community are mostly composed of blind people. We are a very little community that uses screen magnifier at the time but I expect with recent changes new user come to grow the Linux screen magnifier community. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
