Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi,
also to exclude sound problems in the
pty pts/0 console one can test it by running in in it:
speaker-test -c 1
If everything fine You should hear some noise.
Best regards
Volodymyr
On 2/13/23 06:39, Jude DaShiell wrote:
In orca if you go into terminal then temporarily turn orca off then do:
spd-say "Hello World!\n"
Do you get any speech?
If yes, turn orca back on then run spd-conf in that user terminal.
You want a new configuration and you want a user configuration.
One of the choices on the next prompts should be for espeak-ng.
take that choice.
alsa should be another choice to take.
Then test everything and see what comes back
I think what's going on is speech-dispatcher thinks you only have orca
running on your system and doesn't yet know about espeak-ng.
There may also be a connector package espeak-ng needs so it can work.
Some users don't like linux installing dependency packages and if you are
one of them you could have got yourself into this kind of trouble if the
connector package wasn't installed.
Probably by tomorrow I'll be getting one or more answers back from the
speakup list in which case we'll get this sorted out for you.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory
/lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then.
Jude
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
Still no speech, insmod still fails
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be
insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no
speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
directory
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
directory
however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
speakup-soft?]
speakup_soft 16384 1
speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
update
that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but
I am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I
was about 2 clean installs ago ...
david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
System:
Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
pty
pts/0
Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC;
9min
ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
--default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
Memory: 10.5M
CPU: 183ms
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
for
Speakup...
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
for
Speakup.
david@ubuntu:~$
Am I missing something?
--David
-Original Message-
From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
Sent: Tuesda
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
If you haven't already done it, install espeakup. That's a connector daemon that makes espeak-ng and speakup_soft play nicely together. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 13 Feb 2023, Jude DaShiell wrote: > In orca if you go into terminal then temporarily turn orca off then do: > spd-say "Hello World!\n" > Do you get any speech? > If yes, turn orca back on then run spd-conf in that user terminal. > You want a new configuration and you want a user configuration. > One of the choices on the next prompts should be for espeak-ng. > take that choice. > alsa should be another choice to take. > Then test everything and see what comes back > I think what's going on is speech-dispatcher thinks you only have orca > running on your system and doesn't yet know about espeak-ng. > There may also be a connector package espeak-ng needs so it can work. > Some users don't like linux installing dependency packages and if you are > one of them you could have got yourself into this kind of trouble if the > connector package wasn't installed. > Probably by tomorrow I'll be getting one or more answers back from the > speakup list in which case we'll get this sorted out for you. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory > > /lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic > > > > --David > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then. > > > > > > > > Jude > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news] > > > > > > Still no speech, insmod still fails > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be > > > insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no > > > speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft. > > > make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > > defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or > > > > directory > > > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or > > > > directory > > > > > > > > however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not > > > > speakup-soft?] > > > > > > > > speakup_soft 16384 1 > > > > speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM > > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > > > Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > > > defense of liberty: > > > > soa
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
In orca if you go into terminal then temporarily turn orca off then do: spd-say "Hello World!\n" Do you get any speech? If yes, turn orca back on then run spd-conf in that user terminal. You want a new configuration and you want a user configuration. One of the choices on the next prompts should be for espeak-ng. take that choice. alsa should be another choice to take. Then test everything and see what comes back I think what's going on is speech-dispatcher thinks you only have orca running on your system and doesn't yet know about espeak-ng. There may also be a connector package espeak-ng needs so it can work. Some users don't like linux installing dependency packages and if you are one of them you could have got yourself into this kind of trouble if the connector package wasn't installed. Probably by tomorrow I'll be getting one or more answers back from the speakup list in which case we'll get this sorted out for you. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory > /lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then. > > > > Jude > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news] > > > > Still no speech, insmod still fails > > > > --David > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be > > insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no > > speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft. > > make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or > > > directory > > > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or > > > directory > > > > > > however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not > > > speakup-soft?] > > > > > > speakup_soft 16384 1 > > > speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > > defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version > > > > update > > > that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but > > > I am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I > > > was about 2 clean installs ago ... > > > > > > > > > > > > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S > > > > System: > > > > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: > > > > pty > > > pts/0 > > > > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$ > > > > systemctl s
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory
/lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then.
Jude
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
>
> Still no speech, insmod still fails
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be
> insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no
> speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
> make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
>
>
>
> Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
> defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
> > directory
> > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
> > speakup-soft?]
> >
> > speakup_soft 16384 1
> > speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
> > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
> > defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
> > > update
> > that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but
> > I am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I
> > was about 2 clean installs ago ...
> > >
> > >
> > > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> > > System:
> > > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
> > > pty
> > pts/0
> > > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> > > systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
> > > speech output for Speakup
> > > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
> > > enabled; vendor
> > preset: enabled)
> > > Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC;
> > > 9min
> ago
> > >Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > > Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> > status=0/SUCCESS)
> > > Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
> > --default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> > >Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> > > Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> > > Memory: 10.5M
> > > CPU: 183ms
> > > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > > ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
> > >
> > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
> > > for
> > Speakup...
> > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
> > > for
> > Speakup.
> > > david@ubuntu:~$
> > >
> > > Am I missing something?
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> > > To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell'
> > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
>
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then.
Jude
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
>
> Still no speech, insmod still fails
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be insmod
> speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no speech after
> that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
> make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
>
>
>
> Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
> of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
> > directory
> > insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
> > speakup-soft?]
> >
> > speakup_soft 16384 1
> > speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
> > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
> > defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
> > > update
> > that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I
> > am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was
> > about 2 clean installs ago ...
> > >
> > >
> > > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> > > System:
> > > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
> > > pty
> > pts/0
> > > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> > > systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
> > > speech output for Speakup
> > > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> > > vendor
> > preset: enabled)
> > > Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min
> ago
> > >Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > > Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> > status=0/SUCCESS)
> > > Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
> > --default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> > >Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> > > Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> > > Memory: 10.5M
> > > CPU: 183ms
> > > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > > ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
> > >
> > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
> > > for
> > Speakup...
> > > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
> > > for
> > Speakup.
> > > david@ubuntu:~$
> > >
> > > Am I missing something?
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> > > To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
> > > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At
> > > least in
> > my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to
> > install it manually.
> > >
> > > Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
> > >
> > >
> > > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
Still no speech, insmod still fails
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be insmod
speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no speech after
that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
> directory
> insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
> directory
>
> however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
> speakup-soft?]
>
> speakup_soft 16384 1
> speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
>
>
>
> Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
> defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
> > update
> that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I
> am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was
> about 2 clean installs ago ...
> >
> >
> > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> > System:
> > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
> > pty
> pts/0
> > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> > systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
> > speech output for Speakup
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> > vendor
> preset: enabled)
> > Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min
ago
> >Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> status=0/SUCCESS)
> > Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
> --default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> >Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> > Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> > Memory: 10.5M
> > CPU: 183ms
> > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
> >
> > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
> > for
> Speakup...
> > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
> > for
> Speakup.
> > david@ubuntu:~$
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> > To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
> > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At
> > least in
> my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to
> install it manually.
> >
> > Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
> >
> >
> > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> > System:Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> > bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> > Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
> >
> >
> > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
> > espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> > vendor preset: enabled)
> > Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET;
> > 22min
> ago
> > Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
> >Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> > Memory: 6.3M
> > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
> >
> > Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: S
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be insmod
speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no speech after
that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or directory
> insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or directory
>
> however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not speakup-soft?]
>
> speakup_soft 16384 1
> speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
>
>
>
> Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
> of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version update
> that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I am
> still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was about 2
> clean installs ago ...
> >
> >
> > david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> > System:
> > Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty
> pts/0
> > Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> > systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software speech
> > output for Speakup
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: enabled)
> > Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min ago
> >Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> status=0/SUCCESS)
> > Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
> --default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> >Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> > Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> > Memory: 10.5M
> > CPU: 183ms
> > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
> >
> > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for
> Speakup...
> > Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for
> Speakup.
> > david@ubuntu:~$
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> > To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
> > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in
> my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it
> manually.
> >
> > Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
> >
> >
> > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> > System:Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> > bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> > Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
> >
> >
> > dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
> > espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> > vendor preset: enabled)
> > Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min
> ago
> > Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> > Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
> >Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> > Memory: 6.3M
> > CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> > ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
> >
> > Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software
> > speech output for Speakup...
> > Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
> > output for Speakup.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Volodymyr
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> > > I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far.
> > > I
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or directory
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or directory
however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not speakup-soft?]
speakup_soft 16384 1
speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
--David
-Original Message-
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version update
that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I am
still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was about 2
clean installs ago ...
>
>
> david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> System:
> Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty
pts/0
> Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software speech
> output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min ago
>Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
> Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
--default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
>Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> Memory: 10.5M
> CPU: 183ms
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
>
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for
Speakup...
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for
Speakup.
> david@ubuntu:~$
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in
my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it
manually.
>
> Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> System:Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
> espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> vendor preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min
ago
> Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
>Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> Memory: 6.3M
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
>
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software
> speech output for Speakup...
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
> output for Speakup.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Volodymyr
>
>
>
> On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> > I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far.
> > It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the
> > hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am
> > testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is
> > true or not
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
> > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you
> > want they're not default. I've done much of it before but found
> > slint far more straightforward to get this process working
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
> > defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version update that
> did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I am still
> not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was about 2 clean
> installs ago ...
>
>
> david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> System:
> Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty pts/0
> Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)
> david@ubuntu:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service
> ? espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min ago
>Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
> status=0/SUCCESS)
> Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=${default_voice}
> (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
>Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> Memory: 10.5M
> CPU: 183ms
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
>
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for
> Speakup...
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for Speakup.
> david@ubuntu:~$
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in my
> both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it
> manually.
>
> Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> System:Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service
> ? espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> vendor preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min ago
> Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
>Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> Memory: 6.3M
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
>
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software speech
> output for Speakup...
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
> output for Speakup.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Volodymyr
>
>
>
> On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> > I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far. It was
> > suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the hardware I am
> > about to be installing on [at work] but since I am testing on some different
> > hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is true or not
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
> > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want
> > they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more
> > straightforward to get this process working
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
> > of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
> >> in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging
> >> all the equipment along
> >>
> >> However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily
> >> repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into
> >> switching th
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version update that
did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I am still not
getting speech on the console, which is about where I was about 2 clean
installs ago ...
david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
System:
Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty pts/0
Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)
david@ubuntu:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service
● espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=${default_voice}
(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
Memory: 10.5M
CPU: 183ms
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
└─798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for
Speakup...
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for Speakup.
david@ubuntu:~$
Am I missing something?
--David
-Original Message-
From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
To: David ; 'Jude DaShiell' ;
ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi,
Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in my
both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it
manually.
Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
System:Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service
● espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
vendor preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
Memory: 6.3M
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
└─1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software speech
output for Speakup...
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
output for Speakup.
Best regards
Volodymyr
On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far. It was
> suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the hardware I am
> about to be installing on [at work] but since I am testing on some different
> hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is true or not
>
> --David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want
> they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more
> straightforward to get this process working
>
>
>
> Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense
> of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
>> in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging
>> all the equipment along
>>
>> However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily
>> repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into
>> switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would
>> hopefully work 'out of the box'
>>
>> --David
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jude DaShiell
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
>> To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
>> ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>>
>> Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel
>> and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got
>> generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after
>> installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a
>> matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over
>> the kernel ubuntu put on your disk.
Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi, Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it manually. Here is an output from my 20.04 machine: dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S System: Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0 Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa) dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ● espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min ago Docs: man:espeakup(8) Main PID: 1366 (espeakup) Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260) Memory: 6.3M CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service └─1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for Speakup... Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for Speakup. Best regards Volodymyr On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote: I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far. It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is true or not --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more straightforward to get this process working Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging all the equipment along However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would hopefully work 'out of the box' --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux club day meeting. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them to me] --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that module in source code on your disk. Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then installed. It's a complicated process, just the way ubuntu wants it. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel a
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far. It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is true or not --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more straightforward to get this process working Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an > in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging > all the equipment along > > However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily > repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into > switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would > hopefully work 'out of the box' > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel > and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got > generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after > installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a > matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over > the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux experts at the > linux user's group install linux club day meeting. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the > > disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading > > them to me] > > > > --David > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall > > the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing > > modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have > > to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed > > and had done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft > > and find if you have that module in source code on your disk. > > Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted > > all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would > > have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then > > installed. It's a complicated > process, just the way ubuntu wants it. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of > > > the speakup modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used > > > in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > >
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more straightforward to get this process working Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an in-person > meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging all the > equipment along > > However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily > repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into > switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would hopefully work > 'out of the box' > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel and > version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got generic kernel > available you can't do it with ubuntu until after installation and doing > that isn't a trivial process either It's a matter of downloading the kernel > image file then installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best > done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux club day > meeting. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense > of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the > > disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them > > to me] > > > > --David > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the > > speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules > > is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build > > them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had > > done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if > > you have that module in source code on your disk. Alternatively > > ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup > > modules. They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed > > from the blacklist then built and then installed. It's a complicated > process, just the way ubuntu wants it. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the > > > speakup modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > > defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't > > > > appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I > > > > am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't > > > > seems to be able to find it either > > > > > > > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and > > > > wasn't able to, thus asking if someo
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging all the equipment along However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would hopefully work 'out of the box' --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux club day meeting. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the > disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them > to me] > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the > speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules > is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build > them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had > done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if > you have that module in source code on your disk. Alternatively > ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup > modules. They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed > from the blacklist then built and then installed. It's a complicated process, just the way ubuntu wants it. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > > > --David > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the > > speakup modules. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't > > > appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I > > > am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't > > > seems to be able to find it either > > > > > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and > > > wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step > > > instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything > > > > > > Thanks again ? > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace > > > ubuntu with > > another distribution. > > > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a > > > espeak.log to > > each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish > > getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > > > > > > > Jude > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux club day meeting. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the disk in, > boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them to me] > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the > speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules is > possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build them > correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb > first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that module > in source code on your disk. Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations > could have blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the > disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and > then installed. It's a complicated process, just the way ubuntu wants it. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense > of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > > > --David > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the > > speakup modules. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear > > > the speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable > > > to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able > > > to find it either > > > > > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and > > > wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions > > > to make sure I didn't missed anything > > > > > > Thanks again ? > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jude DaShiell > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace > > > ubuntu with > > another distribution. > > > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log > > > to > > each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting > > all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > > > > > > > Jude > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them to me] --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that module in source code on your disk. Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then installed. It's a complicated process, just the way ubuntu wants it. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the > speakup modules. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear > > the speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable > > to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able > > to find it either > > > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and > > wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions > > to make sure I didn't missed anything > > > > Thanks again ? > > > > --David > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace > > ubuntu with > another distribution. > > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log > > to > each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting > all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > > > > Jude > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that module in source code on your disk. Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then installed. It's a complicated process, just the way ubuntu wants it. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the speakup > modules. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense > of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear > > the speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable to > > find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to > > find it either > > > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and wasn't > > able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions to make > > sure I didn't missed anything > > > > Thanks again ? > > > > --David > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jude DaShiell > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace ubuntu with > another distribution. > > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log to > each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting all > of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > > > > Jude > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible? --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the speakup modules. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear > the speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable to > find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to > find it either > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and wasn't > able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions to make > sure I didn't missed anything > > Thanks again ? > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' > ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace ubuntu with another distribution. > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log to each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > Jude > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the speakup modules. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear the > speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable to find it in > the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to find it either > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and wasn't able > to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions to make sure I > didn't missed anything > > Thanks again ? > > --David > > > -Original Message- > From: Jude DaShiell > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM > To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace ubuntu with > another distribution. > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log to each > command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting all of > these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. > > > Jude > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to find it either From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything Thanks again 😊 --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace ubuntu with another distribution. You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log to each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace ubuntu with another distribution. You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a espeak.log to each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out that way. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
]0;root@ubuntu: ~root@ubuntu:~# systemctl status espeakup.service [?1h= [0;1;31m●[0m espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup[m Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor pres[m[7m>[27m Active: [0;1;31mfailed[0m (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2023-02-06 19:49:21 UTC; 26s [m[7m>[27m Docs: man:espeakup(8)[m Process: 1748 ExecStart=/bin/sh -c modprobe speakup_soft && /usr/bin/espeak[m[7m>[27m [m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;39m[0;1;31m[0;1;39mespeakup.service: Control process exited, cod[m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;38;5;185m[0;1;39m[0;1;38;5;185mespeakup.service: Failed with result 'exit-co[m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;31m[0;1;39m[0;1;31mFailed to start Software speech output for Sp[m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: espeakup.service: Scheduled restart job, rest[m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: Stopped Software speech output for Speakup.[m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;38;5;185m[0;1;39m[0;1;38;5;185mespeakup.service: Start request repeated too [m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;38;5;185m[0;1;39m[0;1;38;5;185mespeakup.service: Failed with result 'exit-co[m[7m>[27m Feb 06 19:49:21 ubuntu systemd[1]: [0;1;31m[0;1;39m[0;1;31mFailed to start Software speech output for Sp[m[7m>[27m [7mlines 1-14/14 (END)[27m[K [K [K[7mlines 1-14/14 (END)[27m[K [K[?1l>]0;root@ubuntu: ~root@ubuntu:~# systemctl start espeakup.service Job for espeakup.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status espeakup.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. ]0;root@ubuntu: ~root@ubuntu:~# ei[Ke[K[Kexit From: Ubuntu-accessibility On Behalf Of Volodymyr Dorozhinsky Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 9:27 AM To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup Hi David, I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the package was successfully installed what is the output of: systemctl status espeakup.service If the service is not running one should start it with: sudo systemctl start espeakup.service Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the following steps: 1. Login to graphical environment. 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. After login espeakup should talk. Best regards Volodymyr On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: Hi there – After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that’s me!] So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface with speakup Thank you very much in advance, talk soon --David -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi, if you have Voxin, voxinup is another ocnnector. systemctl enable voxinup and you have console speech. cheers On 2/4/23 02:41, David wrote: Hi there – After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that’s me!] So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface with speakup Thank you very much in advance, talk soon --David -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
OK let me try that and see if it comes up --David -Original Message- From: Jude DaShiell Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 5:00 PM To: David ; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky' ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup Default for speakup is speakup-soft and you don't mess around with any lists. You just do sysctl enable espeakup then reboot. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Fri, 3 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > OK let me take another look tomorrow before I wipe out the whole thing > again, but from what I remember espeakup installed successfully, but I > am unable to find speakup_soft on the module list, and thus no speech > > > > I don?t want GUI anyway, so I was using server 22.04 > > > > --David > > > > > > From: Ubuntu-accessibility > On Behalf Of Volodymyr > Dorozhinsky > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 9:27 AM > To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > Hi David, > > > > I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the package was successfully installed what is the output of: > > > > systemctl status espeakup.service > > > > If the service is not running one should start it with: > > > > sudo systemctl start espeakup.service > > > > Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the following steps: > > 1. Login to graphical environment. > > 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: > > > > killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca > > > > 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. After login espeakup should talk. > > > > > > Best regards > > Volodymyr > > > > > > On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: > > > > Hi there ? > > > > After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to > work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error > [that?s me!] > > > > So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? > > > > Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? > > > > I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line > interface with speakup > > > > Thank you very much in advance, talk soon > > > > --David > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Default for speakup is speakup-soft and you don't mess around with any lists. You just do sysctl enable espeakup then reboot. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Fri, 3 Feb 2023, David wrote: > > > OK let me take another look tomorrow before I wipe out the whole thing again, > but from what I remember espeakup installed successfully, but I am unable to > find speakup_soft on the module list, and thus no speech > > > > I don?t want GUI anyway, so I was using server 22.04 > > > > --David > > > > > > From: Ubuntu-accessibility On > Behalf Of Volodymyr Dorozhinsky > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 9:27 AM > To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup > > > > Hi David, > > > > I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup > package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the > package was successfully installed what is the output of: > > > > systemctl status espeakup.service > > > > If the service is not running one should start it with: > > > > sudo systemctl start espeakup.service > > > > Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when > orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the > following steps: > > 1. Login to graphical environment. > > 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: > > > > killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca > > > > 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. > After login espeakup should talk. > > > > > > Best regards > > Volodymyr > > > > > > On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: > > > > Hi there ? > > > > After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with > ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that?s me!] > > > > So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to > install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? > > > > Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? > > > > I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface > with speakup > > > > Thank you very much in advance, talk soon > > > > --David > > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Thank you, I will keep that in mind if I have to reinstall with the desktop option, but if I can install without X that would also save some disk space [not that it matters much with a large disk these days] --David -Original Message- From: Ubuntu-accessibility On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 1:19 PM To: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky ; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup systemctl set-default text.target if I have this right should turn off the graphical environment except when started using startx. This would allow espeak-ng or fenrir to come up in command line environment. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Fri, 3 Feb 2023, Volodymyr Dorozhinsky wrote: > Hi David, > > > I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install > espeakup package successfully. Do You see any errors during its > installation? If the package was successfully installed what is the output of: > > > systemctl status espeakup.service > > > If the service is not running one should start it with: > > > sudo systemctl start espeakup.service > > > Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console > when orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am > doing the following steps: > > 1. Login to graphical environment. > > 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: > > > killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca > > > 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. > After login espeakup should talk. > > > > Best regards > > Volodymyr > > > > On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: > > > > Hi there ? > > > > After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to > > work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error > > [that?s me!] > > > > So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how > > to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? > > > > Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? > > > > I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line > > interface with speakup > > > > Thank you very much in advance, talk soon > > > > --David > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
OK let me take another look tomorrow before I wipe out the whole thing again, but from what I remember espeakup installed successfully, but I am unable to find speakup_soft on the module list, and thus no speech I don’t want GUI anyway, so I was using server 22.04 --David From: Ubuntu-accessibility On Behalf Of Volodymyr Dorozhinsky Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 9:27 AM To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup Hi David, I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the package was successfully installed what is the output of: systemctl status espeakup.service If the service is not running one should start it with: sudo systemctl start espeakup.service Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the following steps: 1. Login to graphical environment. 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. After login espeakup should talk. Best regards Volodymyr On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: Hi there – After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that’s me!] So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface with speakup Thank you very much in advance, talk soon --David -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
systemctl set-default text.target if I have this right should turn off the graphical environment except when started using startx. This would allow espeak-ng or fenrir to come up in command line environment. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Fri, 3 Feb 2023, Volodymyr Dorozhinsky wrote: > Hi David, > > > I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup > package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the > package was successfully installed what is the output of: > > > systemctl status espeakup.service > > > If the service is not running one should start it with: > > > sudo systemctl start espeakup.service > > > Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when orca > is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the > following steps: > > 1. Login to graphical environment. > > 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: > > > killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca > > > 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. > After login espeakup should talk. > > > > Best regards > > Volodymyr > > > > On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: > > > > Hi there ? > > > > After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work > > with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that?s me!] > > > > So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to > > install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? > > > > Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? > > > > I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line > > interface with speakup > > > > Thank you very much in advance, talk soon > > > > --David > > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi David, I am currently using Ubuntu-Mate 22.04 and I've managed to install espeakup package successfully. Do You see any errors during its installation? If the package was successfully installed what is the output of: systemctl status espeakup.service If the service is not running one should start it with: sudo systemctl start espeakup.service Also what I've noticed is that espeakup will not talk in tty console when orca is running in graphical environment. So to make it work I am doing the following steps: 1. Login to graphical environment. 2. In graphical environment (Mate DE in my case) open a terminal and run: killall orca # WARNING! This will terminate orca 3. Then switch to tty e.g. tty 3 by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3 and login there. After login espeakup should talk. Best regards Volodymyr On 2/3/23 16:41, David wrote: Hi there – After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that’s me!] So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface with speakup Thank you very much in advance, talk soon --David -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi there - After numerous tries, I am still unsuccessful in getting speakup to work with ubuntu, and I contribute that largely to operator error [that's me!] So, here I am, asking if anyone has step-by-step instructions on how to install ubuntu from stratch and have speakup working correctly? Use server version? Use desktop version? Do something else? I do not need any desktop environments, just the plain command-line interface with speakup Thank you very much in advance, talk soon --David -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
