Re: [ubuntu-art] De Edgy Artwork reflection
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 01:41 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 01:51 +0200, iacopo masi wrote: I'm thinking about Edgy future artwork and Dapper has close the Human theme cyles. With edgy there will be a new reinvented from skratch artwork. I like very much the new Orange Human expecilly the wallpaper and the icons (both Human and Tangerine). I put my opinion,my reflection in the next artwork. Starting from other concorrential no open OS like Xp (Microsoft) and Osx (Apple) we see that there is a big work on artwork. :D Xp is tasted with a blue and green theme with yellow folder. Os x with a light cyan, white and gray color scheme. In this schemas there was not only a predominant color in the theme. So the reproach to Human theme is when a person looks ubuntu after 2 minutes says: ohh too much Brown (Breezy: wallpaper dark brow and brown gtk and brown metacity) or Too orange (dapper: orange icons,gtk and metacity) So do you consider that for edgy it will be better if there will be like 2 or 3 color: like 2 major colors and 1 minor. It will be beautiful to think at ubuntu and remember nature: so blue (sky), green (grass), brown (tree). If this is too xp-ish it can be taken a lot of color scheme. For example thinking at dapper, my thought is that it was better if the metacity was of another color than the orange. In this way the eye could rest and than all theme could be less boring and heavy. Ispirating by Ubuntu logo it is possibile to make the metacity of a black color and mixing the black color also in the wallpaper. for dapper we could have mix orange, black and sand begie. So I hope in edgy will be not only a predomint color but at lease two with variations. About the gtk I consider that we must continue to work with engines doing a synthesis of all best: I will take checkbox and V check form ubuntulooks, scrollbar and progress bar form gFlat engines (rezlooks modified) and tab and panel from Clearlooks. However a lot of good work has been done with wonderful ubuntulooks. So at the end I consider that we can make a personal ,special, recognizable and enviable look and feel mixing cairo animation taking the best from various engines, innvoative (not blue) colore schema but not boring and a touch of art. Regards, lizardking Another vote for more than one desktop theme. Given the number of people who like to contribute art and the time available, it makes sense to me if possible to give people a choice. After all, is this not partly what the free software movement is all about. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly. IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy. Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not Chocolate. And I haven't rebooted to see if the Tangerine usplash is there yet. Chuck -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:31 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly. IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy. Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not Chocolate. And I haven't rebooted to see if the Tangerine usplash is there yet. HUMAN shipped with a few SVGs of the filesystem icons!!! Very nice. Chuck -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show up as index.theme anymore. Now they go by the Name= field. Looking at them in Nautilus and a terminal at the same time is very disconcerting so beware. :/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] typo in GrayXT
On 5/29/06, Chuck Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, the GTK is fixed but something strange is still happening. The metacity produces a black version of the previous border on the 3 boxes I tested it on. Looks like it's calling Candido-Selected and although that is the name of the metacity included, it doesn't work unless you manually select GrayXT window borders in the theme preferences dialog. Hmmm. Chuck Grrr! you are right again and I am stupid again - really not cool :S (same reason as before - I had candido-selected installed too) I have added better credit to Cimi and Saki (who made these theme components) because the names no-longer show up as the same anywhere Apologies GrayXT.tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
I am passing this on the the developers list now. Looks like ubuntu-art_27 has some problems. Theme directories are being built flat. I'll file a bug on LP shortly. Chuck On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files are just sitting in the top level directory. Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show up as index.theme anymore. Now they go by the Name= field. Chuck On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:31 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly. IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy. Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not Chocolate. And I haven't rebooted to see if the Tangerine usplash is there yet. Chuck -- -- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On 5/29/06, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op 29-mei-2006, om 14:14 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show up as index.theme anymore. Now they go by the Name= field. Looking at them in Nautilus and a terminal at the same time is very disconcerting so beware. :/ For a while they have been behaving like folders in Nautilus (giving a message that they failed to be opened when you try and click on them) - I thought it was normal! I'm sorry, but I'm kind of confused. So this will need to be fixed as soon as possible. Does the development team know about this? I wish I could check it out myself, but I'm at work right now. Michiel I'm at home (It's a bank holiday here) and I can look into it. Just installing updates. I have cleared ~./themes so I can see what it will look like on a new system...is that about right or is there more I need to do? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Hello everybody, Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 04:31 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber: But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly. IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy. I didn't get a link to a Human Legacy tarball, so I couldn't get it in. Sorry. Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not Chocolate. The license of Chocolate made it not redistributable. I'm sorry for that, but this is the state of things right now and I hope we resolve all of this in Edgy. Things were a late and it already took me and Henrik some time to figure all of this out. Have a nice day, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Hello everybody, Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 05:08 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber: Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files are just sitting in the top level directory. I'll dive into it and make sure this is resolved with the next upload. Thanks for telling me. Have a nice day, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
OK, thanks Daniel. I filed a bug on LP. Tried to forward it to the devels list but no luck, I'm not a member of it. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/47281 Chuck p.s. It's ubuntu-artwork_27_all that has the problem. On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:02 +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello everybody, Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 05:08 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber: Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files are just sitting in the top level directory. I'll dive into it and make sure this is resolved with the next upload. Thanks for telling me. Have a nice day, Daniel -- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:02 heeft Daniel Holbach het volgende geschreven: I didn't get a link to a Human Legacy tarball, so I couldn't get it in. Sorry. Human Legacy was voted for by the art team. It's also considered by many to be imperative to the integrity of Ubuntu's compatibility. I don't see how you couldn't have gotten this theme to be included in Dapper. A message from Henrik sent 15:24 on May 23: I've sent him a list of the other items, with links to tarballs. Did the e-mail not include a link, then? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Michiel Sikma wrote: Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are only two days left before launch? That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th :-) Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On 5/29/06, Daniel Holbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 05:08 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber: Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files are just sitting in the top level directory. I'll dive into it and make sure this is resolved with the next upload. Thanks for telling me. Have a nice day, Daniel Thanks a lot! Here is a new IndustrialXT Package that fixes a naming typo and also has the clearlooks metacity inside the theme folder (if Ubuntu Legacy is not included then 'clearlooks' window border doesn't exist so Human is used, this fixes that) However, I am about to reboot into Breezy and take the Human theme from there so I can submit a tarball - just in case you have time to include it now IndustrialXT.tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven: Michiel Sikma wrote: Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are only two days left before launch? That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th :-) Mark I know that the decision was to be made much earlier, but unless I'm missing something, packaging themes would seem like something easy to me. Not that I'm technical enough to do it properly, but I figured that even a late decision wouldn't matter since it's just a matter of tossing in the correct themes. I guess that was a wrongful assumption, then. I'm sorry about that. Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
Michiel Sikma wrote: Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven: Michiel Sikma wrote: Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are only two days left before launch? That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th :-) Mark I know that the decision was to be made much earlier, but unless I'm missing something, packaging themes would seem like something easy to me. Not that I'm technical enough to do it properly, but I figured that even a late decision wouldn't matter since it's just a matter of tossing in the correct themes. I guess that was a wrongful assumption, then. I'm sorry about that. No problem. The most important thing now is to help Daniel Holbach correct the packaging. If you can hop onto IRC and talk him through it (dholbach) that would be great. Or send him detailed patches, or descriptions of what needs to be done. Thanks, Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On 5/29/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michiel Sikma wrote: Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven: Michiel Sikma wrote: Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are only two days left before launch? That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th :-) Mark I know that the decision was to be made much earlier, but unless I'm missing something, packaging themes would seem like something easy to me. Not that I'm technical enough to do it properly, but I figured that even a late decision wouldn't matter since it's just a matter of tossing in the correct themes. I guess that was a wrongful assumption, then. I'm sorry about that. No problem. The most important thing now is to help Daniel Holbach correct the packaging. If you can hop onto IRC and talk him through it (dholbach) that would be great. Or send him detailed patches, or descriptions of what needs to be done. I'm in #ubuntu-art and #ubuntu-devel now, can't see dholbach yet... Daniel: Here is the tarball for the HumanLegacy theme if you have time. It uses the clearlooks engine, I don't know whether that is installed by default... Can another art-team member please test this theme? I have tried it and it works, but a second opinion would be great!! LegacyHuman.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New themes have arrived
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 14:30 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: No problem. The most important thing now is to help Daniel Holbach correct the packaging. If you can hop onto IRC and talk him through it (dholbach) that would be great. Or send him detailed patches, or descriptions of what needs to be done. Thanks, Mark Hi Mark, looking through FreeNode for ubuntu lists and I see quite a few. Where can we find Daniel? Thanks, Chuck -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
Hello, Sorry for crosspost, but dholbach told me to tell ubuntu-devel about that matter. I quitely obey. ;) For the first time with dapper, the artwork team vote a selection of wallpaper and community artwork to ship along the default Human theme. That is really great ! I wonder if we can drop all other theme except accessibility themes that are not selected by artwork team. According to dholbach dropping those theme must be done in accordance with everybody else. Don't exactly understand that. That would be nice if artwork team have a real control of artwork shiped by ubuntu. currently ubuntu ship some theme such as Simple, Smockey-Blue and Grand Canyon, Ocean Dream, Glider, Crux, Mist Clearlooks, and Traditionnal should be drop in favour of artwork selected themes : Gray, Dapper-Drake, etc. Why are so much theme included in Ubuntu ? Who select them ? Which power will we give to ubuntu-artwork team ? Thanks. Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto ! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing! I have also changed the default subscription and renewal period to be 365 days - it was 30 days so everyone is going to expire RSN :-/. I have extended the subscription of the new admins (andreas nilson, troy sobotka and frank schoep) by a year. Feel free to add more admins if you see fit, folks. It is extremly rare that artwork is the cause of any true bug. Totally untrue. We are having a flurry of bugs show up now because of new artwork. Not just bugs in the artwork itself, but interesting interactions between icon sizes, and SVG for example. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Urgent: Themes and Icons
There is not space on the CD to include any more icon themes. As a result we need to decide whether to axe any theme not using Tango, Tangerine, Human or Gnome or to apply another theme to it The themes affected are. I think we should vote on what to do Dapper Drake: Was Gion - proposed Gnome or Human IndustrialXT: Was NuoveXT - propsed Tango (lloks better anyway) Silicon: Was Tango-Silicon: proposed Gnome or Tango GrayXT: Was NuoveXT, proposed Tangerine (strange but nice) We need to be done in an hour. There is a discussion going on on IRC at the moment, if you are at work please see the wiki page I will shortly be adding a vote to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/DapperThemes_OLD -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
Hello, If you want to drop some themes don't forget the upgrade path, some people are probably using those so they should stay available on upgrade If we drop gnome-theme dependance of ubuntu-desktop, would gnome-theme be removed at upgrade ? Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto ! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Urgent: Themes and Icons
Hi, I'd like to vote as follows. Dapper Drake, Human Industrial , Tango Silicon, Tango GrayXT, Tangerine Thanks, Chuck On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:11 +0100, Who wrote: There is not space on the CD to include any more icon themes. As a result we need to decide whether to axe any theme not using Tango, Tangerine, Human or Gnome or to apply another theme to it The themes affected are. I think we should vote on what to do Dapper Drake: Was Gion - proposed Gnome or Human IndustrialXT: Was NuoveXT - propsed Tango (lloks better anyway) Silicon: Was Tango-Silicon: proposed Gnome or Tango GrayXT: Was NuoveXT, proposed Tangerine (strange but nice) We need to be done in an hour. There is a discussion going on on IRC at the moment, if you are at work please see the wiki page I will shortly be adding a vote to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/DapperThemes_OLD -- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
hi, Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 16:41 +0200 schrieb Étienne Bersac: That would be nice if artwork team have a real control of artwork shiped by ubuntu. note that we usually write a spec for such stuff in advance for the distro team, the art team should probably do the same in edgy. writing a well written and understandable spec which set of themes get included and how they get included and getting that signed off for implementation should give the art team the power you're referring to. ciao oli signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Another modification...
Need to up the permissions on Resilience/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to 644 or else only root can see the gtk. Right now it's 600. Chuck -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:41 +0200, tienne Bersac wrote: I wonder if we can drop all other theme except accessibility themes that are not selected by artwork team. According to dholbach dropping those theme must be done in accordance with everybody else. Don't exactly understand that. Why are so much theme included in Ubuntu ? Who select them ? Which power will we give to ubuntu-artwork team ? Thanks. tienne. Mark clearly said they would all be droped except one main accessibility theme (others in a separate package), and clearlooks (default gnome). Looks like focus was lost and these words didn't pass to Daniel and the Accessibility team. No one on the art team disputed the concept with Mark, so I'd say we are all in accordance. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
Hello, I add that : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ship-selected-desktop-theme Wish that help. Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto ! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: It is extremly rare that artwork is the cause of any true bug. Totally untrue. We are having a flurry of bugs show up now because of new artwork. Not just bugs in the artwork itself, but interesting interactions between icon sizes, and SVG for example. Mark Again, they are not a result of the artwork but the code elsewhere. Plainly stated in the bug reports. I one saw a bad svg icon crash nautilus in the lila-brown theme. It was the fault of Inkscape and svg libs, not the artist using the app and the libs. In the case of the icon sizes in tabs. Same thing. Those of use that have made icons for gnome know a simple small X does the trick to getting around bad gtk code. An outsider wouldn't know this. I've said it many times, if the icon themers would make everything 'Scalable' instead of 'Fixed' in the index.theme file, menus wouldn't get wacked out either. Whether or not that is bad code, I'm not sure, but it is certainly unnecessary on the themers part. 'Fixed' has no real purpose. Billy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On 5/29/06, Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. Daniel included the theme, because he didn't have HumanLegacy - now he does. but we have fewer themes We are not axing them because of scpae, we are axing them because people think they don't look good anymore (i.e without their icons) and we don't want to ship half-baked themes. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. Or was it Silicon? Well either way. Dapper-Drake stays! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote: On 5/29/06, Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so Dapper Drake is a very different theme Dapper-Drake looks great with Human. In fact, I used Human Icons when I made it. All the more reason to include it because it doesn't need another icon themes. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote: On 5/29/06, Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: We need to be done in an hour. Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy. Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so Dapper Drake is a very different theme Both Silicon and Industrial have icon themes as well and came in under Dapper-Drake. Silicon doesn't go with any of the currently include Icon Themes, but Dapper-Drake does. What a fiasco :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:35 +0100, Who wrote: Vote was done last week! Dapper was ahead of Silicon and IndustrialInspirite. No need to vote again, with some last minute trick to get someone elses or your own theme in. That's really low. Disgusting really! Billy, please! Industrial Inspirate was not put in by me, Daniel added it because he didn't have HumanLegacy (nothing to do with me). I have since emailed him HumanLegacy! Even so, all 6 _can_ go in, that is not a problem. Let me set the record straight: Daniel has said there is _no way_ we can get the icons in - so we need to change the themes so they don't all fall back on to Gnome because the icons aren't found (I.E slect either Human, Tango, Tangerine or Gnome for each theme we want to include). Check the IRC logs, I specifically asked for Gion to be included because it is small... So we needed to decide which of the icon themes available to put in to the themes we had selected. Some people, not suggested axing themes that are no longer complete - which is why we had to have this second vote. Note that my pervious email stated I would favour keeping themes _IN_ if we had a draw between in and out. I emailed you individually to get you to vote so that Dapper-Drake could be decisively in. I am not trying to boot out themes! The working packages (not debs...) that I have ready to send to Daniel have al 6 in and have since I put the vote up. Hope that clears the air! I ahve been worrying today about how to do this fairly Then common sense tells you that Industrial, having been wrongly added, rightly gets removed. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
Thank you very much for all of your work Who. Work get things done, and for that, I appreciate you making Ubuntu that little bit better for everyone. On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote: Last 5 minutes. Enjoy :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote: Last 5 minutes. Currently it stands like this Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a draw between axe and icons) Silicon: Axe Industrial: Tango GrayXT: Tangerine I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all! OK, done. I'd love someone to try these out (a sceond opinion, they work here) before I email them to Danial. Given that two of the themes no longer have an XT component I have renamed them. I have providied a tarball unrenamed in case Daniel doesn't want to rename themes (which he suggested he might not) Enjoy :) I tried the RenamedThemes on 2 users and looked at all the index.theme files, and they all work! Good Job! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
I second that, thank you Who.- Original Message From: Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Ubuntu Art ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comSent: Monday, 29 May, 2006 7:20:56 PMSubject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and IconsThank you very much for all of your work Who.Workget things done, and for that, I appreciate you makingUbuntu that little bit better for everyone.On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote: Last 5 minutes. Enjoy :)-- ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
Nice work! On 5/29/06, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dapper-Drake: No description Fixed Now reads: A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well) I think that'll stay IndustrialTango: reads An elegant and very efficient theme, using renamed 'clearlooks' window bord at that point the text goes off the end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest cutting it to just: An elegant and very efficient theme. (although that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions). Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons Resilience: No description. Fixed An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons Silicon: A clean theme to be easy on the eyes. Looks like there's a word missing here, suggest: A clean theme meant to be easy on the eyes. Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes using dapper. Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway. tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Sean's mailing list bin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 19:29 +0100, Who wrote: Dapper-Drake: No description Fixed Now reads: A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well) I think that'll stay IndustrialTango: reads An elegant and very efficient theme, using renamed 'clearlooks' window bord at that point the text goes off the end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest cutting it to just: An elegant and very efficient theme. (although that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions). Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons Resilience: No description. Fixed An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons Silicon: A clean theme to be easy on the eyes. Looks like there's a word missing here, suggest: A clean theme meant to be easy on the eyes. Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes using dapper. Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway. tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art You're fast! I was replying butyou took care of it! Thx! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
Just a note: It is actually possible to have longer multi-line descriptions for themes should we want them if we insert line breaks in the right places. On 5/29/06, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dapper-Drake: No description Fixed Now reads: A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well) I think that'll stay IndustrialTango: reads An elegant and very efficient theme, using renamed 'clearlooks' window bord at that point the text goes off the end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest cutting it to just: An elegant and very efficient theme. (although that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions). Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons Resilience: No description. Fixed An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons Silicon: A clean theme to be easy on the eyes. Looks like there's a word missing here, suggest: A clean theme meant to be easy on the eyes. Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes using dapper. Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway. tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Sean's mailing list bin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons
On 5/29/06, Sean Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice work! Thanks for the 'heads up' :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing! Yes you did. Is there any reason JoelM is still an admin? He has not been active for a very long time and doesn't reply to attempts to contact him (you and others), although he did reply to me. I'm sure time constriants are a likely reason but someone with time constraints does not need to be an admin. I have also changed the default subscription and renewal period to be 365 days - it was 30 days so everyone is going to expire RSN :-/. I have extended the subscription of the new admins (andreas nilson, troy sobotka and frank schoep) by a year. Feel free to add more admins if you see fit, folks. Mark I'd like to propose Who as another admin, if another is needed (can't have too many). He's very active, knowledgable, and level headed. Billy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:05 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools, for example. Again, what features are useful for the ArtTeam? Billy, you are completely underestimating the need for proper organisation in order to FIX the artwork. We have FANTASTIC talent in this team, but no organisation. You need those features NOW not in the last week before a release. The bug and spec tracking features of Launchpad are designed to let everyone work together and keep a common list of what needs to be fixed. In other words, they are designed to let people collaborate effectively. You say that neither of these is needed for five months. That is when Edgy is doe to be released. That attitude is what causes a crunch just before release when suddenly everyone wants lots of little things changed but there is no clear list of what changes have been approved, or agreed. I do wish I came in sooner to push for more desktop theme choices, but with the lack of leadership and vision I don't know that it would have mattered. Even this very week the idea of 2 or more desktop themes has been rejected and overruled for Edgy in favor of the 'Human branding ONLY' concept. Then in another thread by lizardking, 2 memebers and myself are for it and there's been no opposition to it. So, my attitude has been on key, Sir! ..as you can see? Specifications are DESIGNED to be used at the BEGINNING of the release cycle. So everyone can see what is PLANNED. Then the team can coordinate to deliver on those specs. For edgy, I will just ignore everyone who sends in their own favourite artwork. That is not constructive. What is constructive is to identify two or three clear, distinct theme styles, and then build teams to polish those up slowly through the course of the release ccle, with weekly uploads, to the point where they are really classy by the time you get to release. Well, thank you for finally making that clear. It's just what I, and others, wanted to hear and what few of us have been asking for! Now that it has finally been said, some real artwork/desktops can come forth. I based my thoughts of LP on the past because I had nothing else to go on. That was my point. That if all we were going to do is make a few things and propose them for inclusion, LP was not needed. I certaintly agree LP 'could' be a good tool in an effort to offer a few good choice desktops. It makes sense to need LP for unified desktop choices, but I couldn't understand why people wanted it just to repeat a dapper artwork cycle. BUGS are your way to track problems that have occurred. They let you know what things you are committed to fixing, and which you will not fix. This is critical throughout the process, not just in the final week. So - no more cavalier let's just wing it approach, OK? That's what I've said since Warty! Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: What is the power of artwork team on theme selection ?
On 5/29/06, Mikael Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 04:41:09PM +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: snip IMHO drop the metathemes only, that way upgrades would probably still work and all the themes would still be available, only a little more hidden. I think this is a good idea, it simplifies things a lot without extra complication... And frankly, the default themes are a little dull -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Another modification...
I think you were right. In build 27 that folder didn't even exist so it must have been from a prior install. Thanks, Chuck On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:12 -0500, Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:36 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: Need to up the permissions on Resilience/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to 644 or else only root can see the gtk. Right now it's 600. Chuck Hmmm just installed the themes and Resiliences gtkrc is 644 here. -- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Glitch?
Launchpad teams can have a default "membership length" and "renewal length". When JoelM created this team, for some reason he set this to 30 days, and 0 days, respectivley. So you were all going to expire as members in June. Not very useful. So I just updated the periods to 365 days respectively, and went through all the members extending your memberships till 2007, at which point they will expire and you will have to renew them if you still want to be involved. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:41 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road! OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up: - an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appointments for Edgy) - a plan of record for Human, Tangerine and perhaps one other community-driven theme Mark perhaps one other? What happened to For edgy, I will just ignore everyone who sends in their own favourite artwork. That is not constructive. What is constructive is to identify two or three clear, distinct theme styles, and then build teams to polish those up slowly through the course of the release ccle, with weekly uploads, to the point where they are really classy by the time you get to release. Either I misunderstood you before, or I'm not understanding nowor both? I suspect the community-driven part has something to do with it? Help!? :-) Billy - there needs to be a clear governance process. Part of that will be the appointment of people to lead one, or two, community driven themes, as Tangerine was led in Dapper. Basically, I will be expecting art team members to chip in and help get those themes to completion and not to arbitrarily throw in cute but totally incomplete images. In other words, we need to pick a few specific battles to fight, then get organised into battalions to go and fight them. Mark Yes, I understand all of that, I was just curious about going from 2 or 3 to just 1 or 2, so soon :D Billy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam
Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Basically, I will be expecting art team members to chip in and help get those themes to completion and not to arbitrarily throw in cute but totally incomplete images. In other words, we need to pick a few specific battles to fight, then get organised into battalions to go and fight them. Mark This is precisely why I've criticized not V550's proposal earlier, but rather the fact he was making a theme proposal. I do think it's a great thing there are talented artists roaming this mailing list and giving great ideas, it really isn't too productive at this point, and won't be in the future when work will have to be done. What the timeline for Ubuntu artwork development will be, I don't know, but I do agree that distinct and personal proposals should be given a starting time and a deadline as well. Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] GUIDELINES: Words from sabdfl
Let's try to collect all of Mark's posts so that we can keep within his goals for Ubuntu artwork. To this end, and after MUCH restructuring by Etienne, I have added to Et's page structure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Documentation/Guidelines Also, I suspect Et would appreciate some feedback on the wiki organization. I would like to thank Et for his hard effort the past while to contribute and clean up some of the mess. We have a long ways to go, but if everyone does a little bit, I think Edgy will really have some good artwork. Let's get the house in order. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] WORK
== Mark said: Billy wrote: Yes, I understand all of that, I was just curious about going from 2 or 3 to just 1 or 2, so soon :D Hmm... depends how optimistic I'm feeling when I hit send. Call it 1, and if it looks like the team can handle more, 2. We have very tight constraints on space on the CD's, and a whole theme, with a complete icon set, is a lot of space. It is basically the fewest number that gives us good diversity and which we can do at very high quality. I'm afraid, with this final rush, that we will end up releasing Dapper with all of the old Gnome default theme crap I wanted to remove, along with a few new but not very well thought through or complete themes. == A full working theme is a helluva lot of work and there is a heck of a lot more to it than simply saying make it greener. * We need package information so Daniel doesn't get another bomb. * We need details on how to add / adjust / integrate various concepts with these packages. * We need to know who will do the packaging. Who will test. Etc. We need to work on our design docs to at least localize: * What targets are realistically accomplished in a short development cycle. I attempted to address this in the design doc draft, so please take a moment to read it at the wiki. If we don't document any of this in formal, we will repeat our previous folly. Just as many members have pointed out, it is not enough to simply 'sound off' on the mailing list. It is the execution that is critical. Anyone who is reading this can help get some work done _now_ by at least looking at the doc and trying to get the package listing finished. If you have experience with getting any artistic thing into the actual cycle, send me a note or wiki a brief summary or SOMETHING. Also, if someone could collect via wiki searching relevant pages that might be of use and slush them for Et to sort out it would be great. Thanks to anyone and everyone who helps. Just go find ONE page. Add it to a Et's structure. Many hands makes for light work. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Motifs
Hello, Third, we will invest in development to expand the theming system, so that background colour and image for desktop is part of the theme, for example. What do you think about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts/WideTheme ? Étienne. -- Verso l'Alto ! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Firefox, Thunderbird theming?
I know this is a very busy time, but I was wondering, would you consider it to be a good or bad idea to include Human themes for Firefox and Thunderbird in Ubuntu (and perhaps install them by default with the application)? As we're striving to identify Ubuntu with the Human theme, consider it a form of branding. Many thanks, Jimmy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Some help needed from the Documentation Team
A while ago you asked for some help from Ubuntu-Art for the documentation. Did you get what you needed? I believe this is regarding the covers for the dapper documentation to be printed (upon ordering) at lulu.com -- Jerome Gotangco [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +639196555242 GPG: 0xA97B69A0 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] WORK
On ma, 2006-05-29 at 15:32 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: * We need package information so Daniel doesn't get another bomb. * We need details on how to add / adjust / integrate various concepts with these packages. * We need to know who will do the packaging. Who will test. Etc. I have poked at the ubuntu-artwork package several times already (and numerous times at other packages). I want to help the artwork team but am lousy as artist, so this sound like something for me to do :) -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] WORK
Artwork is a MASSIVE task. If you could help us Dennis it would be terrific! Namely, knowing your way around Gnome or KDE etc. is of use to all the people who are exactly the inverse of you -- all art no tech. The best thing everyone can do right now is document all their efforts at the wiki. Thanks again for offering to contribute! On Tue, 2006-30-05 at 03:07 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: On ma, 2006-05-29 at 15:32 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: * We need package information so Daniel doesn't get another bomb. * We need details on how to add / adjust / integrate various concepts with these packages. * We need to know who will do the packaging. Who will test. Etc. I have poked at the ubuntu-artwork package several times already (and numerous times at other packages). I want to help the artwork team but am lousy as artist, so this sound like something for me to do :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] GUIDELINES: Words from sabdfl
I agree... I just tried to stick it in there. At some point someone should snag the related links from the mail archives. Starting points. On Tue, 2006-30-05 at 03:02 +0100, Who wrote: Cathcing hold of every comment Mark makes is probably not the best way to organise things - short statements can be misinterpreted, especially when taken out of their context in time and subject! I would say that gathering what Mark has said so far and asking him to confirm it is a very good idea - but just working on comments here and there, _and taking them out of context_ could well lead to confusion or us going in the wrong direction! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
