Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Cursor
Chuck Huber wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:25 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: The link below depicts XP cursors to the left, while the equivalent Polar, Neutral and Ubuntu cursors are on the right, in that order. http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp.png Checking around I found both Neutral and Polar have newer versions which further add to their polish. An updated screenshot is below. http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp2.png I still don't really see many actual improvements. The Polar cursor is awful, from my point of view, because of the gradient and the unconventional shape. It looks pretty cool as alternate cursor set, but definitely not as the default one. The differences between Neutral and Jimmac's set are also minimal, with the exception of the Neutral cursors being inverted. I like the waiting cursor of Jimmac more because it has a background (and a good amount of padding). Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Cursor
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:25 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote: > The link below depicts XP cursors to the left, while the equivalent > Polar, Neutral and Ubuntu cursors are on the right, in that order. > > http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp.png Checking around I found both Neutral and Polar have newer versions which further add to their polish. An updated screenshot is below. http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp2.png -- Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Cursor
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 09:41 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: > > The current icons are functional and much prettier than the old > > crooked > > and aliased MS cursors but there certainly have been improvements > > since > > these were created as well. > > > > -- > > Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Please be more specific. So there have been improvements to the > design of the cursor. I personally haven't noticed any. Which > improvements do you mean? Surely the cursors deserve attention, but > they absolutely shouldn't be the victim of overly active designers > who don't really know how to improve their usability but still wish > to make _some_ changes to them for the sake of change. That's true and can be said of most art but I think actual use of a modern cursor theme will be enough to convince most people that improvements have been made. Hands are shaped nicer, pointers are better aliased, shadows more realistic, sizes are more appropriate... The link below depicts XP cursors to the left, while the equivalent Polar, Neutral and Ubuntu cursors are on the right, in that order. http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp.png -- Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu title font
On 6/19/06, j michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hello all, i've downloaded the ubuntu title font and i don't wish to sound rude, but it's a little rough around the edges. i was using it in inkscape and i noticed that some of the letters aren't very smooth. on closer inspection some of the letters have way more nodes than are neccesary for the shape of the letter. all these extra nodes add irregularities to the outline of the letters and spoil their smoothness. the letter "u" is a good example of this, it uses 22 nodes to draw the letter, when only 10 are needed (i checked). does anyone know if these letters were designed on a computer program or were they drawn by hand and then converted? john m. I think (note that) the original logo was created by hand, then enough people said they wished they had the font for new artwork that someone took it upon themselves to make a functional font. I know the details are out there in the mailing list archive and probably the package for the font. Sorry for the sketchy details, and sorry also for not having names and links for reference. I personally have a great respect for the artist who created the text in the original logo. I've not used the title font so can't speak with authority on that aspect. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wrong metacity
Chuck Huber wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 22:17 +0200, Andrea wrote: Hi I'm Andrea Cimitan (aka Cimi). Yesterday I've installed ubuntu on my father's PC and I've seen that a theme of mine (Gray) was added (i don't know when) to the ufficial ubuntu-artwork package. I was happy for this. :) Hi Andrea, wow, you chose the right distribution and we chose the right theme and it all came together on dad's computer for Father's Day. That's quite a coincidence. :) About changing the gtk from Candido to Gray, at this point, since the CD has been released and people are using the current version as is, my feeling is it wouldn't be such a wise thing to do. However, there is always Edgy and the plans for that are being discussed now. If possible, stick around and I bet you'll find plenty you can assist with during this development cycle. btw, I really like your Stripped gtk2 as well. It's a bit slow for everyday use but very easy on the eyes as well. Waiting till edgy release was already in my plans... I have also the will to contribute with a custom ubuntu edgy theme... if someone wants my works. I also know that ubuntu is a distro that is very updated, and people like me update our distros every day... so with that advice I think that this issue can be fixed in the ubuntu-artwork*.deb package... am I correct? Or, other idea, I can release a Gray-Selected :D theme by modifing Candido-Selected with the contrast required in Gray (and also the issue with the menubar). I HATE imperfections, that's the reason why you can find only perfect pixmaps in my themes... yes the people can dislike my tastes but I've never released a theme if I don't consider it "perfect" in pixmap and organization. Said this I'll stop my monologue... Byez, Cimi. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wrong metacity
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 22:17 +0200, Andrea wrote: > Hi I'm Andrea Cimitan (aka Cimi). Yesterday I've installed ubuntu on my > father's PC and I've seen that a theme of mine (Gray) was added (i don't > know when) to the ufficial ubuntu-artwork package. I was happy for this. :) Hi Andrea, wow, you chose the right distribution and we chose the right theme and it all came together on dad's computer for Father's Day. That's quite a coincidence. :) About changing the gtk from Candido to Gray, at this point, since the CD has been released and people are using the current version as is, my feeling is it wouldn't be such a wise thing to do. However, there is always Edgy and the plans for that are being discussed now. If possible, stick around and I bet you'll find plenty you can assist with during this development cycle. btw, I really like your Stripped gtk2 as well. It's a bit slow for everyday use but very easy on the eyes as well. -- Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] ubuntu title font
hello all, i've downloaded the ubuntu title font and i don't wish to sound rude, but it's a little rough around the edges. i was using it in inkscape and i noticed that some of the letters aren't very smooth. on closer inspection some of the letters have way more nodes than are neccesary for the shape of the letter. all these extra nodes add irregularities to the outline of the letters and spoil their smoothness. the letter "u" is a good example of this, it uses 22 nodes to draw the letter, when only 10 are needed (i checked). does anyone know if these letters were designed on a computer program or were they drawn by hand and then converted? john m. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] ubuntu pallete for inkscape
hello all, i'm running a subversion build of inkscape and there is a new pallette feature on it. the pallette bar runs along the bottom of the screen and there are different pallettes available from the menu, including the tango pallette. fantastic feature. would it be worth having an ubuntu pallette made for inkscape users or is everything being switched over to the tango pallette now? john m. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Wrong metacity
Hi I'm Andrea Cimitan (aka Cimi). Yesterday I've installed ubuntu on my father's PC and I've seen that a theme of mine (Gray) was added (i don't know when) to the ufficial ubuntu-artwork package. I was happy for this. :) The only thing that surprise me is that it was added togheter with the metacity theme Candiso-selected, that was renamed to Gray. I just want to know the reasons of this choice because (personally) I dislike Gray and Candido-Selected combination (gtk2+metacity). There's an opportunity to remove Candido-selected and ad default metacity theme? Or add Candido gtk2 theme togheter with candido-selected? I repeat, only if it is possible, and remember that I'm so happy of seen my theme in such an important distro! Bye, Cimi -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] scalable vector graphics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ok thx for all the help. sodipodi has a nice ui (I think) thanks again. :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFElvGvK7OphKsmwmMRAlObAJ4wMV60sXDoyVJVTSVSNmbC3qIkaACfSO/F YknzdMmaUauLC9H8EsJvLFc= =WpP9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
On 6/19/06, Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op 19-jun-2006, om 16:44 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven: > On 6/19/06, Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > What would be cool is to create the artwork in such a way that you > could then create a make file and then feed in a color pallette and > have it generate/regerate the artwork for each distro based on the > colors in the pallette. To be honest, that still sounds a little laughable to me, but if it works, I'll kindly shut up. :) Let us know if you were able to do something nice with that. I personally haven't tried that feature yet so I don't know how well it works. Michiel I've done it before in creating some HTML templates... the problem is, (simplified for illustration) if you have a dark background color, a light foreground color and an accent color, you need to have them in the same order in the pallettes so that they look good. Also, I realized after I made my post that to do it in the HTML templates I had to write a fair amount of python code to create the images the right way. I expect it would need to be done for this. That's OK, because I haven't met any Ubuntu'ers yet that have a problem with a little python code. Even if I can generate a proof of concept, and I'm pretty sure I can, it doesn't mean it will work in the real world. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
Op 19-jun-2006, om 16:44 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven: On 6/19/06, Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ubuntu uses orange, Kubuntu uses blue, Xubuntu uses light anthracite (or something; that's how the color seems to me). Those seem like nice default colors for themes. I think that we might have a very rich default set of looks for Ubuntu if we were to make such a cross- platform UI plan a reality. Michiel This is a bit off-topic, sorry. You know what would be sweet... Illustrator has that new-ish feature where you can genereate an artwork template and then have it create variations of the artwork based on a database... What would be cool is to create the artwork in such a way that you could then create a make file and then feed in a color pallette and have it generate/regerate the artwork for each distro based on the colors in the pallette. make ubuntu make edubuntu make xubuntu make kubuntu In the past that would have been so far-fetched that it would've been laughable to even propose such a thing, but now, with so much artwork being SVG and withPNG's alpha transparency as mature as it is, it's not too far fetched. I think I'm going to try it later on this afternoon just to see how it works. I've never deliberately looked at the source of an SVG file to see how the colors are defined. Maybe it still is far-fetched. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art To be honest, that still sounds a little laughable to me, but if it works, I'll kindly shut up. :) Let us know if you were able to do something nice with that. I personally haven't tried that feature yet so I don't know how well it works. Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
On 6/19/06, Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ubuntu uses orange, Kubuntu uses blue, Xubuntu uses light anthracite (or something; that's how the color seems to me). Those seem like nice default colors for themes. I think that we might have a very rich default set of looks for Ubuntu if we were to make such a cross- platform UI plan a reality. Michiel This is a bit off-topic, sorry. You know what would be sweet... Illustrator has that new-ish feature where you can genereate an artwork template and then have it create variations of the artwork based on a database... What would be cool is to create the artwork in such a way that you could then create a make file and then feed in a color pallette and have it generate/regerate the artwork for each distro based on the colors in the pallette. make ubuntu make edubuntu make xubuntu make kubuntu In the past that would have been so far-fetched that it would've been laughable to even propose such a thing, but now, with so much artwork being SVG and withPNG's alpha transparency as mature as it is, it's not too far fetched. I think I'm going to try it later on this afternoon just to see how it works. I've never deliberately looked at the source of an SVG file to see how the colors are defined. Maybe it still is far-fetched. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Paris involvement
Hi all, The Paris conference is underway. Frank, Troy and myself (Ken) are having a great time :-) If anyone wishes to be involved, we'll be in the irc channel (#ubuntu- art). See you there! Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] scalable vector graphics image editor
If you prefer.. you can use sodipodi, there is a native svg support too.. On 6/19/06, Pascal Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 18:20 -0400, meheren wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > can someone recommend to me a good image ditro that uses .svg formats? > thx ive been using inkscape and gimp but i don't really like inkscape > and the gimp doesn't support .svg format. (perhaps there's a plugin for > that?) Inkscape is pretty the one. You can, as Lapo pointed out open SVGs directly using The GIMP if you've installed gimp-svg, however it will be rendered as a raster image, not a vector. Cheers, Pascal > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEldHGK7OphKsmwmMRAnahAKCY/OSJaYVqsNSKLizuen9x92YVsQCcCwsN > d6NMipdsBaP1kvX5iWVnIRI= > =aVUm > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBElor3sJh4C6Y7FqgRAr+QAJ94YNI7/iQ7qFPkQFfqSDRF1LIO2gCgk8j+ ZFoz9qzlzdvs40IIYcADCe0= =en+y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Thiago Ribeiro -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] scalable vector graphics image editor
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 18:20 -0400, meheren wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > can someone recommend to me a good image ditro that uses .svg formats? > thx ive been using inkscape and gimp but i don't really like inkscape > and the gimp doesn't support .svg format. (perhaps there's a plugin for > that?) Inkscape is pretty the one. You can, as Lapo pointed out open SVGs directly using The GIMP if you've installed gimp-svg, however it will be rendered as a raster image, not a vector. Cheers, Pascal > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEldHGK7OphKsmwmMRAnahAKCY/OSJaYVqsNSKLizuen9x92YVsQCcCwsN > d6NMipdsBaP1kvX5iWVnIRI= > =aVUm > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
Op 19-jun-2006, om 3:24 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven: On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 14:09 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: For instance, Kubuntu could have a blue theme. It should preferably look as much like the Ubuntu default theme as possible, barring the color set. Then we should include that blue theme not just in Kubuntu, but also in Ubuntu. And the other way around, of course, there should be an orange theme for Kubuntu. I've also considered this concept. If XFCE were to be added to the mix, it may be possible to come up with three unique looks for each desktop by having the teams(ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu) design just their own theme and passing those specs and artwork on for modification and eventual inclusion in the other environments to make up 3 default "looks". It would mean less choice than there is now but certainly would make for a cohesive set of ditros and quite possibly save some work as well. -- Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ubuntu uses orange, Kubuntu uses blue, Xubuntu uses light anthracite (or something; that's how the color seems to me). Those seem like nice default colors for themes. I think that we might have a very rich default set of looks for Ubuntu if we were to make such a cross- platform UI plan a reality. Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Cursor
Op 19-jun-2006, om 3:00 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven: On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 15:58 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: For one, and this has nothing to do with your cursor design, but what is exactly the reason why we're making new cursors? At the risk of sounding closed-minded, I feel as though the cursors we have are great, or definitely good enough to fulfill their purpose. Though they do fulfill their purpose I'd say there is room for improvement. I would like to see something similar to the Polar cursors which come in 2 different sizes so you choose the appropriate size for your screen. To me cursors deserve the same attention as any other icon since they are used for every single mouse click from the time of install onward. They should be easily identifiable, functional and beautiful. The current icons are functional and much prettier than the old crooked and aliased MS cursors but there certainly have been improvements since these were created as well. -- Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please be more specific. So there have been improvements to the design of the cursor. I personally haven't noticed any. Which improvements do you mean? Surely the cursors deserve attention, but they absolutely shouldn't be the victim of overly active designers who don't really know how to improve their usability but still wish to make _some_ changes to them for the sake of change. That's why I'd personally be careful on making changes to them. Michiel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
