[ubuntu-art] PROGRAM: XaraLX

2006-07-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Thanks to Ken for pointing this app out to me!

If you haven't already found this program, you should
probably do yourself a favour and check it out.  It has
recently migrated to open source, so it deserves some 
attention.

http://www.xaraxtreme.org/


If you download the precompiled binaries, you should be good
to go out of the gate with Dapper on i386 distros.

It is a very good vector drawing tool.  Unfortunately, as of
now, it doesn't support native SVG exporting / importing, but
it is headed that way.  I believe you should still be able
to accomplish this by exporting to a format that Inkscape
can read, then import via Inkscape.  Roundabout, but it will
work until native SVG is supported when 1.0 is officially
released.  They are making _rapid_ development on it, and it
is a very good program.

Now for the sad news.  Even though this application is open
source, getting it to compile on your lovely amd64 machine
won't happen because of a wxWidgets issue.  To this end,
I have (quickly) typed up a howto if you still want to work
with this program:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/XaraLXHowTo_amd64


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Re: [ubuntu-art] PROGRAM: XaraLX

2006-07-02 Thread Étienne Bersac
Note that the core of Xara is not yet open source.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new wallpaper

2006-07-02 Thread Michiel Sikma


On Jun 30, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote:



Op 30-jun-2006, om 17:47 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende  
geschreven:



Huge can of worms.  We talked about this in Paris, and
this is why I brought it up.

I can tell you that 5:4 is pretty common as is 16:9.


Yeah, you're right. Sorry. 5:4 (1280x1024) is commonly used as  
well. I completely forgot that 5:4 is that resolution for a second.  
16:9, however, is only generally used for TV screens. There's just  
one resolution that uses it, Wide XGA (1366×768), which is an  
extremely uncommon resolution. 16:10 is the typical widescreen  
resolution for computer monitors.


Still, I think that up- or downscaling a wallpaper (made for 4:3)  
without stretching or squishing it or changing the proportions in  
any way will be fine in most cases. If we make sure that there's  
nothing interesting at the borders of the image, we might as well  
cut them off occasionally in order to support some resolutions nicely.


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I've also been working on a wallpaper. It's coming along nicely, but  
the colors are too saturated to suit the theme for now.


Here's a downscaled (50%) version of the work-in-progress: http:// 
thingmajig.org/tmp/wall4(1juli06).jpg


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[ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes

2006-07-02 Thread Martin B.
Hello everyone,I am not very happy with the appearance of http://www.kubuntu.org/ , especially comparing it to ubuntu.com. The main page is filled (flooded) with recent news (that aren't any good for new users), other pages are mostly text-heavy and without images. The page is very amateur-looking and confusing, especially for newcomers. (all IMO)
I almost envy the nice and comprehensible appearance of ubuntu.com (and even those pages were discussed here, AFAIK). I think a lot more images and explaining screenshots should be put in 
kubuntu.org + more information for newcomers on the main page.What do you think? Is the pag good- or bad-looking? What improvements do you suggest?And who is responsible for the 
kubuntu.org look?Martin Böhm
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes

2006-07-02 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi Martin, On Jul 2, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Martin B. wrote:Hello everyone,I am not very happy with the appearance of http://www.kubuntu.org/ , especially comparing it to ubuntu.com. The main page is filled (flooded) with recent news (that aren't any good for new users), other pages are mostly text-heavy and without images. The page is very amateur-looking and confusing, especially for newcomers. (all IMO) I almost envy the nice and comprehensible appearance of ubuntu.com (and even those pages were discussed here, AFAIK). I think a lot more images and explaining screenshots should be put in kubuntu.org + more information for newcomers on the main page.What do you think? Is the pag good- or bad-looking? What improvements do you suggest?And who is responsible for the kubuntu.org look?That would be me. The current design is something that I started and went into community hands...a few artists changed it and it was included. Note that the HTML behind the design cannot be changed. It is, afaik based exactly on the Ubuntu design so changing it is not a possibility, on the pics it uses now can be altered to fit the HTML implementation.I agree that there is room for improvement. While this is a side-track to edgy (ie. not concerned with the release...yet) if anyone has any nice design improvements, post them on this list and we can discuss them.As for the articles contained therein: I think that the content is not really in our hands, nor should it be (or we'd call this list something other than -artwork) :-)The important message that the artwork should imply is "KDE for Ubuntu" (as compared to "Ubuntu with KDE"). It is a small matter of semantics, but can mean a world of difference artistically.Bye,Ken-- 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] PROGRAM: XaraLX

2006-07-02 Thread meheren
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes

2006-07-02 Thread Kenneth Wimer

Hi Martin,

We are talking around each other and actually agree, let me explain  
what I meant.


On Jul 2, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Martin B. wrote:

As for the articles contained therein: I think that the content is  
not really in our hands, nor should it be (or we'd call this list  
something other than -artwork) :-)


I think the articles should be made by the doc team hand in hand  
with the artwork team. Web pages are not documentation, the visual  
appearance is as important as the content (IMO). Furthermore, the  
visual style and content cannot be made separately, because it  
complements one another (at least here, in a visual presentation of  
a product).




The text in the articles, and the selection of articles is up to a  
different team. The design and layout of those articles is certainly  
our business.



Specific things that come to my mind when I look at the page:

If I compare ubuntu,kubuntu,edubuntu and xubuntu web pages, xu,edu  
and ubuntu pages have a main page fully for the introduction to the  
distribution. Xu, edu and ubuntu do all have a Related projects  
box. Kubuntu does not. (OK, that's more about the content of the  
page.)




Actually, I think that if anyone made it to this website, they have  
at least some inkling of what to expect. Having current items  
displayed shows, in my eyes, that things are moving right along.


I do agree that a related projects box would be good though.

The konqis  image is in my opinion completely redundant. It looks  
more like an image from a fairy tale, not from a professional Linux  
distribution. Maybe a screenshot on the main page would be more  
informative?




100%

I think the titles and all font sizes could be adjusted to make the  
page more structrured. The number of visual elements is very small  
( no coloured wrappers for content, titles as images etc.) , the  
white space looks more empty to me.




Definitely.


Martin



Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Bye,
Ken

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