Re: [ubuntu-art] And he went to the volcano to offer...

2006-09-27 Thread Chuck Huber
A full size background that's only 21 kb and looks good.  Imagine the
extra space for tools.  ie. network-manager-gnome and network-manager...

Chuck
p.s.  It's not art but I figure gods like that stuff. ;p

On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 22:42 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote:
> He sat and pondered.
> 
> Realizing the gods were not happy, he went
> to the volcano with a flurry of last ditch
> effort to appease them.  With references to
> the past, and the hope of the future, he 
> stood on the edge...
> 
> "If the great GDM shall stand," he said
> "Let it stand with peers."
> 
> "One palette to rule them, five colours
> to bind them, and let them have
> the mark of human.  May the gods be happy."
> 
> And he threw it in.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> TJS
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[ubuntu-art] Foolish villager...

2006-09-27 Thread Troy James Sobotka
And the foolish villager forgot the great
tenant -- let the people have the source
of the work:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/LetTheGodsBeHappy




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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Who
That effect is very nice,
In fact, I think it looks even nicer if you ad a 2px white highlight
ot the bottom of it...

Unfortunately, I have a few 'buts' to consider

At the moment, the panel style changes with the GTK style - which is good,

However, by using an image we stop this from happening, if I now
select a theme with black bg and white fg the panel image will stay
and make the panel unreadable,

Unfortunately, I feel this kind of thing is not viable for inclusion
in a distro unless:
we patch the theme manager to remove the image when the theme is
changed for the first time,
we pathc the theme manager to allow a theme to specify a panel BG and
to use nothing if a panel BG is not specified...

The second is, of course, far preferable...

The other 'but' is that the panel image will look strange if the panel
is dragged to a different edge, for example your current panel has a
black line at the top which may look weird when at the bottom but
_will_ look weird if the panel is side on.

Again, this is really a software bug, I guess (is it?) - the panel
should rotate the image if it is side on, no?

Sorry to be a killjoy :S,

There is the option of using the theme engine to apply a style to all
items on the panel, a theme I made a while back had these lines in it
that caught all the panel widgtets I tried...

widget "*PanelWidget*" style "panel"
widget "*PanelApplet*" style "panel"
class "*Panel*" style "panel"
widget_class "*Mail*" style "panel"
class "*notif*" style "panel"
class "*Notif*" style "panel"
class "*Tray*" style "panel"
class "*tray*" style "panel"

However, as yet I think the UbuntuLooks engine is unable to draw
designs for the panel - you would have to use the pixbuff engine to
get an effect similar to the one in the original post...but even this
doesn't rotate pixmaps when the panel is side on...

Who

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> > Hi,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Julian Oliver
i like it. i'd roll with that for sure..

julian

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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Toby Smithe
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effraie wrote:
> i updated the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EffraiePanel
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This is very nice. Well done!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Étienne Bersac
Wahou !

That's just nice ! Would be nice if GtkHuman use such light grey
(without the glassiness). This tile fit well in both top and bottom
panel.

Nice work !

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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread PingunZ
That white version is just ... what I was hoping for :)It would would really complete the human theme .Nice work !Cheers2006/9/27, effraie <
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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread effraie
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i updated the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EffraiePanel
with a white version

comments are welcome

Étienne Bersac a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Since Metacity human theme is also brown, a brown panel is the wrong
> choice. The same tile, but white would rock.
> 
> Étienne.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth




Frank Schoep wrote:

  There is (also) an aesthetic problem with several applets and gadgets that can be added to the panel which ignore the panel background. Some of them look great until you hover over them, at that moment 
they start looking like a push button which drops the whole facade of a nice and visually unique panel. It seems that those applets were created with the panel being a widget container, like regular 
applications. I think the clock which is added by default does this.
  

Those are bugs, which we could fix if we decided to make this rock for
Edgy+1.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Frank Schoep
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:43:20AM +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> effraie wrote:
> > i'll try put them here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/EffraiePanel
> 
> I think the panel needs to look quite different from our window borders
> and dialog backgrounds. At the moment, part of the problem is that the
> panel looks too similar to the menu bar, of an app, and to the inactive
> window borders.

There is (also) an aesthetic problem with several applets and gadgets that can 
be added to the panel which ignore the panel background. Some of them look 
great until you hover over them, at that moment 
they start looking like a push button which drops the whole facade of a nice 
and visually unique panel. It seems that those applets were created with the 
panel being a widget container, like regular 
applications. I think the clock which is added by default does this.

Regarding the topic: I'm sorry, but I did not know the current look of the 
panel was officially labelled a "problem", is there a bug or usability report I 
missed on this topic so that I can investigate 
possible solutions?

Sincerely,

Frank

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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth




effraie wrote:
i'll try put them here :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/EffraiePanel


I think the panel needs to look quite different from our window borders
and dialog backgrounds. At the moment, part of the problem is that the
panel looks too similar to the menu bar, of an app, and to the inactive
window borders.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] panel background

2006-09-27 Thread Michiel Sikma
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks interesting, to say the least,  
but I wonder about usability here. The bar looks like it's too dark  
to create a proper contrast between itself and the text.

Michiel

Op 27-sep-2006, om 3:30 heeft effraie het volgende geschreven:

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