[ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?

2006-12-21 Thread Alexander van Loon
In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the
fonts used in Ubuntu.

Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but
why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of
Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font?
That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts,
why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there
is one font which is the best choice?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?

2006-12-21 Thread Travis Watkins
On 12/21/06, Alexander van Loon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the
 fonts used in Ubuntu.

 Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but
 why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of
 Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font?
 That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts,
 why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there
 is one font which is the best choice?



http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758

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Re: [ubuntu-art] The shredder icon for delete sucks

2006-12-21 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
2006/12/21, Nacho de los Ríos Tormo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Nacho de los Ríos wrote:
 
  The icons suck, and the metaphors suck. They have to be replaced
 
 
  Very counterproductive and negative approach.
 
  Free software design has a little growing room, and you could get in on
  the ground floor by providing positive techniques to overcome these
  sorts of issues.
 
  Perhaps offering up a design plan, an alternative, or something to build
  on might be more applicable?
 
  There are many that _might_ agree with your position, however, the
  manner in which you state it will garner zero attention.  It doesn't
  take much effort for a seagull to fly over and poop on the crowd below.
   It _does_ take a good deal of effort to engage the issues and work to
  resolve them.
 
  Once again, it is always easier to tear down than build upwards.
 
 

 I AM offering suggestions:

You ARE bashing other people work while offering suggestions and it
is not the best way possible to do it.

 I said the orange disks are too featureless and so they don't stand out
 from each other, which defeats their purpose.

 I said that the current drawings on the emblems are oversimplified and
 that it is difficult to recognize what they represent, let alone what
 they stand for. I also said that some are ugly, which I believe is
 indeed a problem.

Again I don't think the word ugly is a good choice here, not very
good in my opinion would sound a lot better.

[SNIP]

 By the way, the idea to relate icons with locales is an excellent idea,
 although I'm afraid we don't have the power to bring it forward. It
 would have to be proposed and defended somewhere upstream.
Upstream doesn't have enough man power as well atm.


Ciao
Lapo

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