Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all,

I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the 
issues that Etienne mentioned.

http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png

What do you think?

Bye,
Ken

On Sunday 11 February 2007 12:29:04 Étienne Bersac wrote:
 Hi,

 Here are some through about usplash artwork :

   * although increase font weight, font is a bit too bold imo.
   * progress bar are gray in gtk because app are grey, but since
 usplash is black, it would be nice to apply the progressbar tile
 to black. I don't know if i'm clear
   * new logo gradient are nice, but red color should be more red,
 this kind of pink/violet does not fit ubuntu colors, imo

 Ken, it's all for you :). Please comment

 Étienne.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Toby Smithe
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the 
 issues that Etienne mentioned.
 
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png
 
 What do you think?

Hmm. I don't know if it's just me but the status bar and the logo(text)
don't seem aligned. Apart from that, I think they're looking good.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread David Prieto
On lun, 2007-02-12 at 16:43 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 On Monday 12 February 2007 13:51:41 you wrote:
  On lun, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the
   issues that Etienne mentioned.
  
   http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
   http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
   http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png
  
   What do you think?
 
  Might not be entirely related, but is there no way for widescreen
  monitors to show the usplash properly instead of stretched out?
 
 There is a pic for certain resolutions included, but to fit all monitor sizes 
 we would have to include lots of pics which is simply not possible.
 
 Ken

Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
proportions?

I would think that adding those would suffice, but I could be entirely
wrong of course.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Matt Richards
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David Prieto wrote:
 On lun, 2007-02-12 at 16:43 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 On Monday 12 February 2007 13:51:41 you wrote:
 On lun, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the
 issues that Etienne mentioned.

 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png

 What do you think?
 Might not be entirely related, but is there no way for widescreen
 monitors to show the usplash properly instead of stretched out?
 There is a pic for certain resolutions included, but to fit all monitor 
 sizes 
 we would have to include lots of pics which is simply not possible.

 Ken
 
 Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
 either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
 proportions?

most of the stuff that I have is 1280x1024.

 
 I would think that adding those would suffice, but I could be entirely
 wrong of course.
 
 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

I prefer the upslash_1.png variant.

Can you round progress bar corners ?

Étienne.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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David Prieto wrote:
 Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
 either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
 proportions?
 

Incorrect.

Monitors fall into a vast array of aspect ratio and resolutions.

Namely, 16:10 and 4:5.  That said, you factor in multi-head displays,
SVIDEO/HDTV out, etc., and the rest of situations and you quickly end up
in a very complicated situation.

Sincerely,
TJS
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 12 February 2007 17:53:39 Étienne Bersac wrote:
 Hi,

 I prefer the upslash_1.png variant.

 Can you round progress bar corners ?

 Étienne.

Hehe, too late, I already did it! I noticed that it after the color reduction 
the corners were not rounded and fixed them. The package should appear 
sometime soon. In case you want to see the pics, here it is:

http://sinecera.de/usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.9.tar.gz

Have fun!

Ken

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote:
 As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong.
 It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice
 that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family
 understood that (that's almost all the clueless people i can observe).
 Even if i tell them several times the meaning of this icon.

 up2date icon from RH is far better : a glowing red circle with an
 exclamation mark.

 Also, there is something very confusing in this icon : it follows the
 label's convention i.e. flat orange background + white sketch.
 Notification icons are icons similar to menu icon. They must follow the
 same guideline !

 Ubuntu has very very nice notification area icons, thanks to Gnome (see
 how ugly are Windows® Vista systray official icons !!!).

 So i found that this icons fail to warn the users (please tell be about
 your clueless users) and does not fit well in the panel.

 What are we going to do in order to fix that issue ?
   

Etienne, if I understand you correctly your main concern is that the
icon is not aggressive (red) enough. I agree that the icon needs to
attract attention, but am not sure I agree that it needs to be a big red
warning sign.

I just updated my package list to see the icon again and it seemed to me
to be very adequately serious - and when you mouse over it, it tells you
what you need to see.

In short, I myself don't think it needs to change, but I'm sure Ken and
other artists will consider suggested updates.

Mark
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Emir Beganović
I like the usplash1.png ;)





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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi Mark,

I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
sometimes let updates awaiting).

The two points are : 

  * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a
package with the new label like in new directory. Or the
same picto as in Add/Remove software + the new label. This
will make sense and will be coherent with both panel icons and
wide theme.
  * Icon does not clearly mean update available. See : the
prefered app capplet icon refer to boxed cdrom software even if
about 99, percent of softwares in the system are downloaded.
The same way, the update icon should rely on a known relation
between reality and concept. The idea i suggest above is quite
good, altough, Ken might have better idea (or yourself !)

Thanks Master :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote:
 I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
 taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
 sometimes let updates awaiting).

 The two points are : 

   * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a
 package with the new label like in new directory. Or the
 same picto as in Add/Remove software + the new label. This
 will make sense and will be coherent with both panel icons and
 wide theme.
   * Icon does not clearly mean update available. See : the
 prefered app capplet icon refer to boxed cdrom software even if
 about 99, percent of softwares in the system are downloaded.
 The same way, the update icon should rely on a known relation
 between reality and concept. The idea i suggest above is quite
 good, altough, Ken might have better idea (or yourself !)
   

OK. Make up some suggestions and send them to the list and Ken!

Mark
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Yes master :P

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi Étienne,

My suggestion to change the icon would be to humanize a tango icon:

http://tango.freedesktop.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/apps/system-software-update.svg

It seems like a decent metaphor although I am not sure how well it would work 
at 16x16. That is the best thing about the current icon -it works well at 
very small sizes.

Bye,
Ken

On Monday 12 February 2007 23:54:16 Étienne Bersac wrote:
 Hi Mark,

 I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
 taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
 sometimes let updates awaiting).

 The two points are :

   * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a
 package with the new label like in new directory. Or the
 same picto as in Add/Remove software + the new label. This
 will make sense and will be coherent with both panel icons and
 wide theme.
   * Icon does not clearly mean update available. See : the
 prefered app capplet icon refer to boxed cdrom software even if
 about 99, percent of softwares in the system are downloaded.
 The same way, the update icon should rely on a known relation
 between reality and concept. The idea i suggest above is quite
 good, altough, Ken might have better idea (or yourself !)

 Thanks Master :)

 Étienne.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Andreas Haller
Hi, 
just wanted to add that i think the Tango icon would, or does
(http://tango.freedesktop.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/16x16/apps/system-software-update.png)
 not work on a small size.
I also think the metaphor of the Tango icon is not optimal. I like the
recycle-arrows, but i am afraid that some people could misinterprete
the internet-metaphor (globe to a cable) with something concerning
their internet connection. Something like you are online or some
internet-settings things..  
I have to say that i am used to the small orange a new star is
born-icon (good metaphor (?)). 
Maybe a combination of the recycle-arrows and the clear visible layout
of the current icon would be worth trying.

bye,
andi


On Di, 2007-02-13 at 01:31 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 Hi Étienne,
 
 My suggestion to change the icon would be to humanize a tango icon:
 
 http://tango.freedesktop.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/apps/system-software-update.svg
 
 It seems like a decent metaphor although I am not sure how well it would work 
 at 16x16. That is the best thing about the current icon -it works well at 
 very small sizes.
 
 Bye,
 Ken
 
 On Monday 12 February 2007 23:54:16 Étienne Bersac wrote:
  Hi Mark,
 
  I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
  taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
  sometimes let updates awaiting).
 
  The two points are :
 
* Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a
  package with the new label like in new directory. Or the
  same picto as in Add/Remove software + the new label. This
  will make sense and will be coherent with both panel icons and
  wide theme.
* Icon does not clearly mean update available. See : the
  prefered app capplet icon refer to boxed cdrom software even if
  about 99, percent of softwares in the system are downloaded.
  The same way, the update icon should rely on a known relation
  between reality and concept. The idea i suggest above is quite
  good, altough, Ken might have better idea (or yourself !)
 
  Thanks Master :)
 
  Étienne.
 


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