[ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
**Note: This is my first time being involved in anything on Ubuntu (besides the forum). Anyway, I put together a theme which I think should be used for Hardy. It includes an Emerald theme (which I am porting to Metacity), a GTK theme, and a background. The icons are Human, which All of these aren't mine, they are just compiled together by me. The theme pics are here: http://www.smartboy.salocinlinux.org/db/Screenshots/Screenshot-Hardy1.png http://www.smartboy.salocinlinux.org/db/Screenshots/Screenshot-Hardy2.png Anyway, the reason I think it should be like this is because compared to the rumored GTK theme (black and orange), which to me feels closed, this theme is warm, open, and inviting. It also feels like a sunset (to me) combined with the background. Anyway, one suggestion I got from the Ubuntu Forums was that I should change the dots which represent the close/maximize (or restore)/minimize buttons to something else. I was thinking they could be changed to the traditional option, though they fit well with this theme. Comments/suggestions/feedback, please. :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > Also, on the topic of rounded corners (I realize this is a mock up), > if there are to be rounded corners then it's absolutely important > that they're antialiased. > > > This isn't possible with metacity, is it? > No, it is not. The antialiasing comes from an 'awareness' and processing of the raised layer over the lower layer. To do this, it would theoretically be possible using a composite technique (as with xcompmgr) or like approach. Hope this helps, TJS -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHL6+Far0EasPEHjQRAicmAJ9pJPjVY1MfaLhQwJ0Xjn3I6ekU1ACgjaBi Ofi8E9vMMLtVyFU8bxYGN7E= =4sJg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
I mixed some stuff staring from the OranSun one. Let me know if you like this screenshot. http://www.iacopomasi.net/content/hardy.png Best, -- Iacopo Masi -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Hello all and thank you very much for replying to my message. The rounded corners is a good idea, but probably only on the top of the window or only the bottom. If you had the rounded corners on the bottom it wouldn't look like we put effort into it, you know what I mean? Also for the minimize and maximize buttons I would say red for close, green for the maximize, and yellow or orange for minimize. The colours I have chosen are because I think they will be clear indications of what button to press and not experiment on to find out what they are. Also again I would like to thank you for e-mailing me and hope to be apart of the team, Yours sincerely Ethan Blaine. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:23:53 -0600 CC: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme I think it could be partially implemented on the inside of the curve. Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:01:10 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme Also, on the topic of rounded corners (I realize this is a mock up), if there are to be rounded corners then it's absolutely important that they're antialiased. This isn't possible with metacity, is it? Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! Try now! _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
I think it could be partially implemented on the inside of the curve. Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:01:10 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme Also, on the topic of rounded corners (I realize this is a mock up), if there are to be rounded corners then it's absolutely important that they're antialiased. This isn't possible with metacity, is it? _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
> > Also, on the topic of rounded corners (I realize this is a mock up), if > there are to be rounded corners then it's absolutely important that they're > antialiased. This isn't possible with metacity, is it? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Kenneth Wimer wrote: I have been talking to Matthew Nuzum concerning the art.ubuntu.com site. With any luck something will be online by the end of the week. Included will be "rating" as well as "viewed" which should help the other contributors figure out which stuff is most popular amongst those using the site. -- Ken That should be good enough. Please give a message when the site is on. - Erno -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
On Monday 05 November 2007 18:22:13 SzerencseFia wrote: > Kenneth Wimer wrote: > > Sorry for the late response, I have been in transit to another conference > > and am just now catching up on my email...answer inline... > > This is fine, hope u have had good time. :-) > > > Until now we only have the possiblity to survey people online (not in > > person)...more importantly the evaluation of such information is > > something that is quie problematic - a few hundred people would probably > > not be enough and it would be very hard to find even a few hundred people > > who are not already ubuntu users (as they are our target audience). > > > > -- > > Ken > > I see the point. Then I would take this voting stuff through your > friend's ...-look.org sites. I actually have started to test ideas > already. This can work for the community but still not for the green > users. Idea, comment? I have been talking to Matthew Nuzum concerning the art.ubuntu.com site. With any luck something will be online by the end of the week. Included will be "rating" as well as "viewed" which should help the other contributors figure out which stuff is most popular amongst those using the site. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Sorry for the late response, I have been in transit to another conference and > am just now catching up on my email...answer inline... This is fine, hope u have had good time. :-) > Until now we only have the possiblity to survey people online (not in > person)...more importantly the evaluation of such information is something > that is quie problematic - a few hundred people would probably not be enough > and it would be very hard to find even a few hundred people who are not > already ubuntu users (as they are our target audience). > > -- > Ken I see the point. Then I would take this voting stuff through your friend's ...-look.org sites. I actually have started to test ideas already. This can work for the community but still not for the green users. Idea, comment? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Sorry for the late response, I have been in transit to another conference and am just now catching up on my email...answer inline... On Saturday 03 November 2007 17:22:57 SzerencseFia wrote: > Lets say you start to use your newly downloaded/burned Ubuntu Hardy and > the system is clean, nothing on it only entirely default. This is the > most common place to start with the new releases, is it? > > Take it into account that most people are not designer and they have to > be treated as such whom are not an expert in theming. Our coordination > should lead us in that direction where simple user is the target, their > level of knowledge, understanding to make theme changes on the system. > Their limitation is the understanding, what do they understand and able > to do with their Linux system. > > Why I say this? I do think our motto has to be SIMPLICITY and we have to > present to the users the freedom of choice as the main direction in Open > Source world. > > Therefore: we should present one dark and one light theme from the same > type but with different color. In fact it leaves one question open which > one would be default in the release. Kenneth, do we have possibility to > survey few hundreds of simple users? Until now we only have the possiblity to survey people online (not in person)...more importantly the evaluation of such information is something that is quie problematic - a few hundred people would probably not be enough and it would be very hard to find even a few hundred people who are not already ubuntu users (as they are our target audience). -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
I like the different colored buttons but they need icons. How can colors be associated better with windowing functions though? Green doesn't standout in my mind as a minimize button. Red definitely works for close though. Also, on the topic of rounded corners (I realize this is a mock up), if there are to be rounded corners then it's absolutely important that they're antialiased. If they're not then it's just a big glaring negative mark against the theme. It's a matter of fit and finish. On 11/5/07, SzerencseFia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Exactly, the usability of the buttons is important. I have started few > days ago a survey on an idea of Metacity buttons for the upcoming Hardy > release. I am looking forward guys your opinions. > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/eBlueBall?content=68983 > > cheers, Erno > > Brian White wrote: > > A small nitpick that may be more subjective than anything else--I > > prefer it when themes give the close, minimize, and maximize buttons > > different shapes (or at least different colors). From a usablility > > standpoint, this means I immediately know the function of each button > > without having to experiment to find out. > > > > Cheers, > > Brian White > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Exactly, the usability of the buttons is important. I have started few days ago a survey on an idea of Metacity buttons for the upcoming Hardy release. I am looking forward guys your opinions. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/eBlueBall?content=68983 cheers, Erno Brian White wrote: > A small nitpick that may be more subjective than anything else--I > prefer it when themes give the close, minimize, and maximize buttons > different shapes (or at least different colors). From a usablility > standpoint, this means I immediately know the function of each button > without having to experiment to find out. > > Cheers, > Brian White -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Neil J Patels mockups look great to me. I would really support working on this for Hardy or Hardy +1. A small nitpick that may be more subjective than anything else--I prefer it when themes give the close, minimize, and maximize buttons different shapes (or at least different colors). From a usablility standpoint, this means I immediately know the function of each button without having to experiment to find out. Otherwise, this looks fantastic. Very distinctive and professional. Any word yet it we think this would be possible with Murrine or Aurora? A mockup is one thing...implementing it is another. Cheers, Brian White On 11/5/07, Sam Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that Neil J Patels mockups have a huge amount of potential for > Hardy. One aspect not covered in those mockups (from what I saw) is > identifying inactive windows. It needs to be obvious which window is > active and which windows are not. This is hit-and-miss with other > themes, some do it well, others seem to completely ignore it. > > Cheers, > Sam (KidProQuo) > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
I think that Neil J Patels mockups have a huge amount of potential for Hardy. One aspect not covered in those mockups (from what I saw) is identifying inactive windows. It needs to be obvious which window is active and which windows are not. This is hit-and-miss with other themes, some do it well, others seem to completely ignore it. Cheers, Sam (KidProQuo) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
