Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:48 +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: Get over it. Most people top post. You're not going to change it. If you want a OS used solely by technical folk who care enough about these things to even know what they are, go find a data general users group. Ubuntu's for everyone. Stop screaming at people for minor issues. I'm on dozens of mailing lists. This is the only one where people have been ask to stick to generally accepted mailing list etiquette (which is also explicitly Ubuntu policy) and don't do it. What's so good and defend-able about ignorance and being rude? The idea that you need to be technical to get this is incredibly silly. Especially since art is about communication, this list has been very depressing lately. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!
I say it again, if I find the way to not top-post with my tools, I do it, until... 2008/5/2, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:48 +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: Get over it. Most people top post. You're not going to change it. If you want a OS used solely by technical folk who care enough about these things to even know what they are, go find a data general users group. Ubuntu's for everyone. Stop screaming at people for minor issues. I'm on dozens of mailing lists. This is the only one where people have been ask to stick to generally accepted mailing list etiquette (which is also explicitly Ubuntu policy) and don't do it. What's so good and defend-able about ignorance and being rude? The idea that you need to be technical to get this is incredibly silly. Especially since art is about communication, this list has been very depressing lately. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Jussi Kekkonen -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 12:51 +0300, Jussi Kekkonen wrote: I say it again, if I find the way to not top-post with my tools, I do it, until... Congratulations to a platform where you apparently can't move the text cursor, then. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Jussi Kekkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I say it again, if I find the way to not top-post with my tools, I do it, until... I have a Gmail account, so I did some checking. The regular AJAX HTML versions have the ability to edit quoted text. The mobile version does not have the ability to edit quoted text, but it does have an option on the reply page right underneath the Save, Send and Cancel buttons, called Include quoted text. You just need to uncheck that. Also, if you are stuck on a mobile platform, you can configure Gmail to use a proper mail client that supports POP3 or IMAP and SMTP. See here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 To those that insist we get over it, I insist that you're showing no respect to proper etiquette (i.e. good manners) and contributing to the deteriorating quality of this list. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] STOP TOP POSTING!!!
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Jussi Kekkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I say it again, if I find the way to not top-post with my tools, I do it, until... http://freshmeat.net/projects/mujmail/ (Both kinds of free) http://www.bluewhalesystems.com/download/web.jsp (Free as in beer) Both these are free imap mail clients that run on a variety of phones. I don't know for sure that they can be set to bottom post, but they are both fairly complete tools. Enjoy, Who -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 6
Who cares about top posting? Why don't we get back to work.* :) * Has anyone come up with anything yet? I thought the discovery theme posted yesterday was absolutely brilliant. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 6
Good work with the Wiki. Does the Discovery theme have a page yet? AFAIK its come the furthest so far. http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/extending-discovery/ Hylke Bons has done an amazing job with it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 6
It doesn't, or not as far as I can tell. I'll get on it... tomorrow morning.-Pitr Mayhew On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Nicholas Kraak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work with the Wiki. Does the Discovery theme have a page yet? AFAIK its come the furthest so far. http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/extending-discovery/ Hylke Bons has done an amazing job with it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- VOTE FEDERALIST. VOTE WHIG. VOTE REPUBLICAN. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dark Themes: Testing them in Alphas? Upstream?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip If a dark theme is going to be used in Intrepid or i+1 then it needs to go into the dev version soon along with instructions on how to file bug reports against software that breaks with a dark theme. Kind of like the switch from bash to dash as /bin/sh. Theoretically speaking, it's very possible that a dark theme could go into intrepid for a significant portion of the dev cycle and then be pulled as beta approaches and then re-instated for i+1 where it continues to mature before being able to go live. I think a dark theme will reveal a lot of broken programs and the solutions will not be as trivial to fix as with dash. Snip if something was avail (even in rough form) by alpha 1 or alpha 2 it would generate a lot of useful bug reports. [1] http://guentherbeyer.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/ubuntu_804_theme_test_02b.png This seems like a really sensible idea, with very little to loose - whether or not we want a dark theme as default doesn't matter, as it opens up the possibility to the art team and to users who would like to have one, of having it work well. Upstream probably care about this too... As well as the (quite) dark Ubuntu Studio theme, there are plenty of good (very) dark themes already on Gnome Look, and as I understand your idea - there isn't much great significance in _which_ dark theme we use, only that it is one that will expose apps that need to be fixed in order to be theme agnostic. So we are pretty much in a position to go now, if all the right groups want it to happen (yea, I know this is not a small thing!). What am I forgetting? The good thing about this, as I see it, is that we're not in any hurry - if it takes two releases where we go to a dark theme in the early alphas to get things smooth, then that is fine - the point is that if we don't start we'll never finish. So - this seems like the kind of thing someone would need to raise at UDS, or even with Upstream GNOME (There were some posts on Gnome Planet a while ago discussing darker themes and how well they worked...) Anyone going to UDS? Anyone very involved with upstream art? If so - what do you think? Who / Jonathan Austin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
