Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 91

2008-05-28 Thread Nicholas Kraak
In terms of the New Wave theme, I think when a window is inactive, that dark
grey bar at the top (the titlebar and the area around it) should be a
lighter colour for readability purposes. The out of "inactive" windows
stands out way to and is just distracting at the moment.

For example, have a look at what the current Ubuntu theme (and most others)
do when a window is inactive. We should implant this in New Wave.

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/87807nautilusgvfs.jpg

Also, I don't particularly like the Firefox/Nautilus buttons in New Look for
the navigation, the icons for everything else look wonderful but the
navigation buttons (forward, back, etc.) Just don't suit the theme.
Otherwise, keep up the good work. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM, François Degrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
> 2008/5/28 fruchtschwert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 16:17 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
>> > В 14:56 +0200 на 25.05.2008 (нд), Mario Viviani написа:
>> > > Mario V.
>> > > > Il giorno sab, 24/05/2008 alle 20.54 -0300, spg76 ha scritto:
>> > > > 2008/5/24 Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > > > > I've made some changes to a dozen of icons (I attach a pack). The
>> > > > > difference is in color contrast and in removed gloss form some
>> icons.
>> > > > > What do you think?
>> > > > >
>> > > > Hi, I think they look good. The one that I like the most it's the
>> > > > mail-send icon.
>> >
>> > The restart icon is not as good as I wanted. If you include them please
>> > leave it aside.
>> >
>> > > >
>> > > > > P.S.
>> > > > > I'm still wondering how change or remake the reload icon. Any
>> ideas?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anton
>> > > > >
>> > > > I can make a few alternatives if you want and then we can choose
>> which
>> > > > way is the best.
>> > > > Also, I've made alternate versions of some actions icons. You can
>> > > > check them out at
>> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastianporta/tags/actions/ and you
>> can
>> > > > see it on a screenshot at
>> > > > http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo1dy8.png
>> >
>> > The icons are good but I think they stand a little bit unfinished. Try
>> > to use outline wit some matching color (not black) so that the user can
>> > better visually see where the icon ends.
>> >
>> > When you are done upload the changes ;)
>> >
>> > Anton
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
>> navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
>>
>>
> Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't like them at all. They have nothing in
> common with the folders for example (the gradient is far different) -- the
> first ones we made, adapted directly from Elementary Icons were much more
> adapted to the theme, imo. Also, they don't have a common gradient while it
> is obvious that the light should come from the same point. And I don't see
> the point with brown; everything else is gray or orange.
>
> Sorry for the bad comment... My goal is only to have a really consistent
> theme at the end.
>
> Cheers,
>
> François
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread François Degrave
2008/5/28 fruchtschwert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 16:17 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
> > В 14:56 +0200 на 25.05.2008 (нд), Mario Viviani написа:
> > > Mario V.
> > > > Il giorno sab, 24/05/2008 alle 20.54 -0300, spg76 ha scritto:
> > > > 2008/5/24 Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > I've made some changes to a dozen of icons (I attach a pack). The
> > > > > difference is in color contrast and in removed gloss form some
> icons.
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > Hi, I think they look good. The one that I like the most it's the
> > > > mail-send icon.
> >
> > The restart icon is not as good as I wanted. If you include them please
> > leave it aside.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > P.S.
> > > > > I'm still wondering how change or remake the reload icon. Any
> ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anton
> > > > >
> > > > I can make a few alternatives if you want and then we can choose
> which
> > > > way is the best.
> > > > Also, I've made alternate versions of some actions icons. You can
> > > > check them out at
> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastianporta/tags/actions/ and you
> can
> > > > see it on a screenshot at
> > > > http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo1dy8.png
> >
> > The icons are good but I think they stand a little bit unfinished. Try
> > to use outline wit some matching color (not black) so that the user can
> > better visually see where the icon ends.
> >
> > When you are done upload the changes ;)
> >
> > Anton
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hey,
>
> first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
> navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
>
>
Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't like them at all. They have nothing in
common with the folders for example (the gradient is far different) -- the
first ones we made, adapted directly from Elementary Icons were much more
adapted to the theme, imo. Also, they don't have a common gradient while it
is obvious that the light should come from the same point. And I don't see
the point with brown; everything else is gray or orange.

Sorry for the bad comment... My goal is only to have a really consistent
theme at the end.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511
will this work as the base idea?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread spg76
2008/5/28 fruchtschwert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hey,
>
> first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
> navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..

Thank you very much :)

> Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey folders in the
> background. The problem is, that not all of them are displayed.
> For example, once after a restart, the office and games-icons appeared
> for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe someone can
> tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename the icons?
>
> Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..

I'll look into it and I get back to you.

>
> @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same offset-problem for
> me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected" one: see link
> below :-)

Oh, not again :P
I still have the problem with the help icon you fixed and I just look
the warning icon that you attached and it's worng for me too.
I don't know what could be. Maybe we have different versions of Inkscape?

> I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the rhythmbox-icon, too,
> but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows better than
> me .. ;-)

The Rhythmbox icon goes to the apps folder with the same name as the
application in lowercase.
I don't know exactly where goes CD Burner icon. You want to replace
the one on the places menu?
About the icons, I already upload the Rhythmbox icon, but for some
reason it's missing on the last revisions. I'll commit it on the next
upload.
About the CD Burner icon, I think the same way as Anton.

> I also would propose changing the colors for the logout-screen icons
> again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too dominant. I
> would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
>
> You can find my proposals here:
>
> http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz
>
> Cheers
> Martin

> Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting and we
> should use different color and remove that gloss from the arrow as I
> proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable folder but
> the new version is not visible in the exit screen).

I forgot to copy the PNG to their respective folders, I'll do it on
the next commit.

> The hibernate icon should be something else because right now the sleep
> icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something like stoptime
> or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...
>
>
> Anton

I like what shadowh511 is proposing for the hibernate icon. I'll try
to make it later and see how it looks.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511
ZZZ, and the hibernate icon could be a cartoonish hibernating bear.
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> В 09:49 -0700 на 28.05.2008 (ср), shadowh511 написа:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:
> >
> > > first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great
> > brown
> > > navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
> > >
> > > Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey
> > folders in the
> > > background. The problem is, that not all of them are
> > displayed.
> > > For example, once after a restart, the office and
> > games-icons appeared
> > > for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe
> > someone can
> > > tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename
> > the icons?
> > >
> > > Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
> > >
> > > @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same
> > offset-problem for
> > > me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected"
> > one: see link
> > > below :-)
> > >
> > > I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the
> > rhythmbox-icon, too,
> > > but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows
> > better than
> > > me .. ;-)
> > >
> > > I also would propose changing the colors for the
> > logout-screen icons
> > > again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too
> > dominant. I
> > > would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
> > >
> > > You can find my proposals here:
> > >
> > > http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz
> >
> >
> > I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can
> > somebody
> > else confirm it?
> >
> > About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making
> > something
> > toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser
> > beam burning
> > some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!
> >
> > Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting
> > and we
> > should use different color and remove that gloss from the
> > arrow as I
> > proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable
> > folder but
> > the new version is not visible in the exit screen).
> >
> > The hibernate icon should be something else because right now
> > the sleep
> > icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something
> > like stoptime
> > or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...
> >
> >
> > Anton
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > how about a frozen clock for hibernate?
>
> Then what the sleep icon will be?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 09:49 -0700 на 28.05.2008 (ср), shadowh511 написа:
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:
> 
> > first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great
> brown
> > navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
> >
> > Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey
> folders in the
> > background. The problem is, that not all of them are
> displayed.
> > For example, once after a restart, the office and
> games-icons appeared
> > for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe
> someone can
> > tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename
> the icons?
> >
> > Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
> >
> > @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same
> offset-problem for
> > me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected"
> one: see link
> > below :-)
> >
> > I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the
> rhythmbox-icon, too,
> > but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows
> better than
> > me .. ;-)
> >
> > I also would propose changing the colors for the
> logout-screen icons
> > again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too
> dominant. I
> > would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
> >
> > You can find my proposals here:
> >
> > http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz
> 
> 
> I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can
> somebody
> else confirm it?
> 
> About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making
> something
> toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser
> beam burning
> some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!
> 
> Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting
> and we
> should use different color and remove that gloss from the
> arrow as I
> proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable
> folder but
> the new version is not visible in the exit screen).
> 
> The hibernate icon should be something else because right now
> the sleep
> icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something
> like stoptime
> or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...
> 
> 
> Anton
> 
> 
> 
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> how about a frozen clock for hibernate?

Then what the sleep icon will be?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread shadowh511
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:
>
> > first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
> > navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
> >
> > Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey folders in the
> > background. The problem is, that not all of them are displayed.
> > For example, once after a restart, the office and games-icons appeared
> > for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe someone can
> > tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename the icons?
> >
> > Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
> >
> > @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same offset-problem for
> > me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected" one: see link
> > below :-)
> >
> > I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the rhythmbox-icon, too,
> > but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows better than
> > me .. ;-)
> >
> > I also would propose changing the colors for the logout-screen icons
> > again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too dominant. I
> > would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
> >
> > You can find my proposals here:
> >
> > http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz
>
> I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can somebody
> else confirm it?
>
> About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making something
> toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser beam burning
> some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!
>
> Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting and we
> should use different color and remove that gloss from the arrow as I
> proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable folder but
> the new version is not visible in the exit screen).
>
> The hibernate icon should be something else because right now the sleep
> icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something like stoptime
> or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...
>
>
> Anton
>
>
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how about a frozen clock for hibernate?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 17:17 +0200 на 28.05.2008 (ср), fruchtschwert написа:

> first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
> navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..
> 
> Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey folders in the
> background. The problem is, that not all of them are displayed.
> For example, once after a restart, the office and games-icons appeared
> for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe someone can
> tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename the icons?
> 
> Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..
> 
> @Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same offset-problem for
> me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected" one: see link
> below :-)
> 
> I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the rhythmbox-icon, too,
> but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows better than
> me .. ;-)
> 
> I also would propose changing the colors for the logout-screen icons
> again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too dominant. I
> would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.
> 
> You can find my proposals here:
> 
> http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz

I have this offset problem too (as you already know) but can somebody
else confirm it?

About the cd burner icon I think it looks like we are making something
toxic. Wouldn't it be better if it had blue (or red) laser beam burning
some black circles in the disc? The RB icon is good!

Now about the gnome-log-out icon: It really is too distracting and we
should use different color and remove that gloss from the arrow as I
proposed earlier (I know the icon is updated in the scalable folder but
the new version is not visible in the exit screen).

The hibernate icon should be something else because right now the sleep
icon has to have Zzz s. An idea for hibernate is something like stoptime
or a kind of desktop bookmark even time freeze ...


Anton



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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Icons

2008-05-28 Thread fruchtschwert
Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 16:17 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
> В 14:56 +0200 на 25.05.2008 (нд), Mario Viviani написа:
> > Mario V. 
> > > Il giorno sab, 24/05/2008 alle 20.54 -0300, spg76 ha scritto:
> > > 2008/5/24 Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I've made some changes to a dozen of icons (I attach a pack). The
> > > > difference is in color contrast and in removed gloss form some icons.
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > Hi, I think they look good. The one that I like the most it's the
> > > mail-send icon.
> 
> The restart icon is not as good as I wanted. If you include them please
> leave it aside.
> 
> > > 
> > > > P.S.
> > > > I'm still wondering how change or remake the reload icon. Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Anton
> > > >
> > > I can make a few alternatives if you want and then we can choose which
> > > way is the best.
> > > Also, I've made alternate versions of some actions icons. You can
> > > check them out at
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastianporta/tags/actions/ and you can
> > > see it on a screenshot at
> > > http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo1dy8.png
> 
> The icons are good but I think they stand a little bit unfinished. Try
> to use outline wit some matching color (not black) so that the user can
> better visually see where the icon ends. 
> 
> When you are done upload the changes ;)
> 
> Anton
> 
> 
> 
> 


Hey,

first of all, I want to compliment sebastian for the great brown
navigation-icons. I think we should keep them like that ..

Some time ago, I uploaded new categories-icons with grey folders in the
background. The problem is, that not all of them are displayed.
For example, once after a restart, the office and games-icons appeared
for me, but now they are gone again (don't know why). Maybe someone can
tell me, which symlinks I have to create or how to rename the icons?

Or maybe you could fix it, Sebastian ..

@Sebastian: your new calculator icon, has the same offset-problem for
me, like the one with the exclamation mark. My "corrected" one: see link
below :-)

I have new proposals for the cd-burner-icon and the rhythmbox-icon, too,
but I don't know where to copy them. Maybe, someone knows better than
me .. ;-)

I also would propose changing the colors for the logout-screen icons
again, because I think the red of the logout-icon is too dominant. I
would say orange for that, and blue for hibernation again.

You can find my proposals here:

http://fruchtsalat.uni.cc/res/new_icons.tar.gz

Cheers
Martin


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