[ubuntu-art] Re cruiting for New Wave Theme
Hello there: As you know, Dilomo (Anton), the lead designer and creator of New Wave, is away for some months. Right now he left me in charge of the project however I am no designer. I just tested the theme with him every day giving him suggestions to improve his work. I am looking for talented people willing to contribute to this excellent theme and make it better considering it might be included as a community theme on Intrepid Ibex. Will be glad to hear from any of you. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Recruiting-for-New-Wave-Theme-tp19621144p19621144.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hiatus of Development
Ken Vermette wrote: > Hello everyone; > > I'm emailing more/less because of a fundamental change in my schedule. > For those that don't know, I'm in an extremely compressed electronics > course thats the equivalent of learning 2 years of college in less than > 6 months. > > Obviously, to develop artwork to the best of anyones ability - time is a > significant investment, and it's no longer an investment I have to > offer. This is somewhat obvious when you look at my sparse updates on my > own projects. Until I have a less hectic schedule, I'll be unsubscribing > the mailing list and discontinuing work. I personally apologize to those > whom I've said I would assist, especially with Breathe, but I cannot > jeopardize my career to continue. > > If anyone has time, and would like to take over Didymous, I would be > much obliged. > > Good luck with all your projects, as always, outstanding stuff everyone! > > Thank you; > -Ken Vermette > Ken, I am sorry to hear that. Shall you be available via this email address? -- Cheers, Erno [szerencsefia] --- Home: http://www.szerencsefia.webs.com/ WhoIs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SzerencseFia -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Hiatus of Development
Hello everyone; I'm emailing more/less because of a fundamental change in my schedule. For those that don't know, I'm in an extremely compressed electronics course thats the equivalent of learning 2 years of college in less than 6 months. Obviously, to develop artwork to the best of anyones ability - time is a significant investment, and it's no longer an investment I have to offer. This is somewhat obvious when you look at my sparse updates on my own projects. Until I have a less hectic schedule, I'll be unsubscribing the mailing list and discontinuing work. I personally apologize to those whom I've said I would assist, especially with Breathe, but I cannot jeopardize my career to continue. If anyone has time, and would like to take over Didymous, I would be much obliged. Good luck with all your projects, as always, outstanding stuff everyone! Thank you; -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Naxos Theme Clear Version
Just a word of advice: It's a bit of a moot point to decide on which to go with: a warm (beige/orange) or neutral grey color scheme. Some will always prefer one over the other. IMHO, you don't have to adjust the colors of your theme just because everyone clamored to have it as orange/yellow/grey/blue. Color schemes are probably one of the most subjective things. Just stick to your vision and make the nicest execution for what you have in mind. Anyway, the colors are adjustable for a reason: those who prefer a grey scheme can always adjust the colors themselves. Cheers! Rico -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Moving-to-another-city-tp19588387p19610234.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set meeting needed.
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 14:41 -0400, Cory K. wrote: > A meeting for all those interested in working on the set is needed. Will > be in #ubuntu-artwork. > > What time/day will work for people this week? Any weekday from 12 to 13, 15 to 17 and preferably 18 to 20 UTC. Plus 8 to 10 on weekends. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyūdō
Re: The Kyudo foundation document:
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines/Foundation)
WOW! I think this is spot on. We need a vision to keep the contributors on
track, and I think this is just the right initiative to make that vision and
push it forward.
The "target audience" I think is particularly valuable. Whenever something
big comes along, people would voice out their distaste over brown/orange or
small buttons, which leads some artworks to a mediocre direction via
design-by-committee. What we instead need to do is keep a good *vision* and
work with a *target audience* in mind.
At any rate, this is a good 'brief' to steer the direction of the Ubuntu
brand. We have always worked with the guideline "make something kickass" --
which, IMHO, is not a very good brief.
So what's next for Kyudo? Here are some of my thoughts on where to go from
here:
- Polish, distill, disseminate.
The current 'Foundation' document has a good message to it. Perhaps it's
time to polish this, make it into something that can easily be communicated,
and spread the vision to those interested in contributing.
- Involve people.
I'll personally try to contribute whatever I can to this. Anyone else?
- Make proposals into how to 'concretize' the vision.
Once we got the vision down, it's time to make that into something
clearer. Define the constraints. What one-sentence statement do we want to
put across? What elements of the current Ubuntu brand should we retain? Do
we work with a dark palette? etc...
- Define the short-term goals.
The Kyudo project has quite an astronomic target ("optimize
presentation", which I guess can extend to branding, upstream projects,
etc). Not exactly a bad thing, we but gotta define the next steps. We can't
do all of these in one go, but what are we to do now? Do we work on themes?
Icons? etc...
* * *
Re: "Our current process may not be efficient, but it is very free in
allowing people to create what they would like to see Ubuntu use."
(--Smartboy)
The current process encourages participation alright, but this includes
serious and thoughtless participation alike. I've seen some contributions
that stray far from the vision of Ubuntu -- IMHO a protocol like the one
proposed will help guide these contributors to the right direction.
Participation may drop, but IMHO we're not after a large number of
participants contributing noise. "Signal" contributions would be much
better, even if in lesser quantity.
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> While the theme team process seems to work very well now, I think we
> could do better. My allies and I would like to push things towards a
> solid design process.
>
> One that starts with the question what it actually is what we want to
> achieve, what our message is and who we are addressing. Goals we can
> agree on and that will lead us through the design, helping us to
> collaborate in a larger team in a meaningful way.
>
> A process that will lead us out of the shadows of purely personal
> opinion and hidden assumptions towards the light of reason.
>
> A process where we will not jump unto the first idea, but develop and
> test several designs for each little part. Where we will not restart on
> the next cycle, but build upon the existing. Continuous refinement.
>
> One that will offer anyone a chance to learn about design in a deeper
> way and that will show onlookers that we are damn serious while we enjoy
> the ride!
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines
>
>
> Please read through it carefully. As you can see, it is by no means
> complete. That's where you come in! All content, all questions and
> suggestions can be discussed right here. Consider to start new threads
> for specifics. Tell us how you think and feel about this!
>
>
> --
> Thorsten Wilms
>
> thorwil's design for free software:
> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
>
>
> --
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> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
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>
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[ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set meeting needed.
A meeting for all those interested in working on the set is needed. Will be in #ubuntu-artwork. What time/day will work for people this week? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 08:21 -0700, AA Boy wrote: > I think ultimately, if we were to make people create themes by these > rules, then it would stifle our creativity, and ultimately lead to > less people working with the team. As a designer, if I want or have to create something and don't have much in my hands to guide the work, no rules or requirements, i make the rules myself and work out the requirements. This is because otherwise, I'm confronted with the infinite space of possibilities without a means to navigate it. If anything goes, nothing matters. I'm quite confident many experienced artists and designers will agree here. > Our current process may not be efficient, but it is very free in > allowing people to create what they would like to see Ubuntu use. Free also means somewhat random. Are we creating for ourselves or for others? Are we ego-tripping or do we want to give our best? > Going to something where people are made to follow a stricter set of > guidelines than current ones, which only allow one "official" > community theme to be made, then it will make more people mad when > their piece of the project. I think if 2 or 3 different "official > community" theme candidates were allowed to be produced with this > process, it would at least allow more creative freedom at a minimum. > But ultimately if someone chooses not to follow the guidelines and > decides to go their own way with their theme, that would still be > allowed to be a community theme candidate. OK, this part has been answered already, but to be clear: it's fine to have parallel efforts and nobody is forced to anything. If you just want to do, do. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 17:21 +0100, Michael Stephenson wrote: > "Kyūdō is the Japanese art of archery" Perhaps you should revise this > line. > archery is Universal and outdates any civilisation, many cultures > consider > archery part of their national identity and heritage, Korea for > example takes > archery very seriously and could be rather annoyed by this line. > Kyūdō is the Japanese word for the art of archery. > This is like saying "Shuukyuu is the Japanese art of soccer." Hmm, you are reading that in an interesting way. Kyūdō is not simply the Japanese word for archery. It refers to a very specific heritage and technique. I'm open for other suggestions here, though. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
"Kyūdō is the Japanese art of archery" Perhaps you should revise this line. archery is Universal and outdates any civilisation, many cultures consider archery part of their national identity and heritage, Korea for example takes archery very seriously and could be rather annoyed by this line. Kyūdō is the Japanese word for the art of archery. This is like saying "*Shuukyuu is the Japanese art of soccer." * -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AA Boy wrote: > > > > I think ultimately, if we were to make people create themes by these > > rules, then it would stifle our creativity, and ultimately lead to > > less people working with the team. Our current process may not be > > efficient, but it is very free in allowing people to create what they > > would like to see Ubuntu use. Going to something where people are made > > to follow a stricter set of guidelines than current ones, which only > > allow one "official" community theme to be made, then it will make > > more people mad when their piece of the project. I think if 2 or 3 > > different "official community" theme candidates were allowed to be > > produced with this process, it would at least allow more creative > > freedom at a minimum. But ultimately if someone chooses not to follow > > the guidelines and decides to go their own way with their theme, that > > would still be allowed to be a community theme candidate. > > > > It looks as though you replied without seeing Thorsten's reply to my > post. Please go back and read. > > -Cory K. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > I did, I am sorry. Your's was kept separate in GMail for some reason, and I missed his reply as one to yours. Sorry again. Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
AA Boy wrote: > > I think ultimately, if we were to make people create themes by these > rules, then it would stifle our creativity, and ultimately lead to > less people working with the team. Our current process may not be > efficient, but it is very free in allowing people to create what they > would like to see Ubuntu use. Going to something where people are made > to follow a stricter set of guidelines than current ones, which only > allow one "official" community theme to be made, then it will make > more people mad when their piece of the project. I think if 2 or 3 > different "official community" theme candidates were allowed to be > produced with this process, it would at least allow more creative > freedom at a minimum. But ultimately if someone chooses not to follow > the guidelines and decides to go their own way with their theme, that > would still be allowed to be a community theme candidate. > It looks as though you replied without seeing Thorsten's reply to my post. Please go back and read. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyu-do-
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Hi! > > > > While the theme team process seems to work very well now, I think we > > could do better. My allies and I would like to push things towards a > > solid design process. > > > > One that starts with the question what it actually is what we want to > > achieve, what our message is and who we are addressing. Goals we can > > agree on and that will lead us through the design, helping us to > > collaborate in a larger team in a meaningful way. > > > > A process that will lead us out of the shadows of purely personal > > opinion and hidden assumptions towards the light of reason. > > > > A process where we will not jump unto the first idea, but develop and > > test several designs for each little part. Where we will not restart on > > the next cycle, but build upon the existing. Continuous refinement. > > > > One that will offer anyone a chance to learn about design in a deeper > > way and that will show onlookers that we are damn serious while we enjoy > > the ride! > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines > > > > > > Please read through it carefully. As you can see, it is by no means > > complete. That's where you come in! All content, all questions and > > suggestions can be discussed right here. Consider to start new threads > > for specifics. Tell us how you think and feel about this! > > > > As de-facto community lead atm I wanna give this effort a big +1. I > believe This is a great step in the right direction for us. > > I do however have a question to throw out there, and forgive me Thorsten > because I've asked in chat already. I just want to pose it for a wider > audience. :) > > Do you see this as guiding *all* of what we do, or, just upon a > particular *community decided* idea/theme? Something that can be decided > at the beginning of each cycle or something? > > I ask because we shouldn't dictate that people *have* to create by these > rules. I feel that only people that *want* to be involved with the > larger, focused, effort will have to. Yes/No? > > -Cory K. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > I think ultimately, if we were to make people create themes by these rules, then it would stifle our creativity, and ultimately lead to less people working with the team. Our current process may not be efficient, but it is very free in allowing people to create what they would like to see Ubuntu use. Going to something where people are made to follow a stricter set of guidelines than current ones, which only allow one "official" community theme to be made, then it will make more people mad when their piece of the project. I think if 2 or 3 different "official community" theme candidates were allowed to be produced with this process, it would at least allow more creative freedom at a minimum. But ultimately if someone chooses not to follow the guidelines and decides to go their own way with their theme, that would still be allowed to be a community theme candidate. Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Naxos Themes Update
I open a launchpad project for Naxos Theme. Here: https://launchpad.net/giuseppe.pennisi gp -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Naxos Themes Update
Il giorno lun, 22/09/2008 alle 08.23 -0500, Jake Tolbert ha scritto: > The clear is looking really great. I particularly like the > contrasting window title color in Nexos Clear. Thanks. :-) Really the clear version is more nice and relaxing. gp -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Naxos Themes Update
The clear is looking really great. I particularly like the contrasting window title color in Nexos Clear. Then again, I'm a sucker for the human color pallette. Jake On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Giuseppe Pennisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I updated again Naxos and Naxos Clear themes. > Fixed text color, metacity and more improve. > > For more info: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid > > Some Screenshoot: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=naxos_preview_0.6.png > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=naxos3_0.6.png > > Clear: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=naxosclear3_0.6.png > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=naxosclear_preview_0.6.png > > Opinions? > > gp > > I'm trying to make a lp project and bzr branch. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- Peaces, Jake -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Help Testing Dust Theme
Dust has now been migrated to Launchpad. I've set up bug trackers for the GTK and Firefox themes. Please use them for any bug reports: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dusttheme https://bugs.launchpad.net/dusttheme-firefox You can also check out the code over at https://launchpad.net/dusttheme and https://launchpad.net/dusttheme-firefox. (Btw, Dust Firefox is also out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme) John Baer wrote: > > I downloaded the "Dust-20080920.tar.gz" file from the Wiki and when I > attempt to extract the contents I receive an error. :( > > I was able to get some items from the archive by pulling them out > one-by-one. > > Placing the folder "Dust" into my ".themes" folder did permit me to > choose the theme. > > But I do not know what engine I'm using. I assume "Metacity"? If this is > true, what about "Murrine"? > > What would be helpful is a testing guide. > > Test Dust "Metacity" engine > > Step 1 > ... Do this > > Step 2 > ... Do this > > Test Dust "Murrine" engine > > Step 1 > ... Do this > > Test "Borderless" function > > etc. > > I apologize if I am making this too hard. I am using Intrepid Alpha 6 as > my test OS. > > Cheers, > > John > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Need-Help-Testing-Dust-Theme-tp19586220p19607600.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyūdō
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 23:18 -0400, Cory K. wrote: > Do you see this as guiding *all* of what we do, or, just upon a > particular *community decided* idea/theme? Something that can be decided > at the beginning of each cycle or something? It is an offer and a recommendation. While I would love to see it widely adopted, everyone has to decide for themselves. It's not a cage to slave away in, but a tree to grow and care for, so that we can one day climb to the stars. There can be a large garden around it ;) I would even encourage that efforts for additional themes rethink some parts of it. > I ask because we shouldn't dictate that people *have* to create by these > rules. I feel that only people that *want* to be involved with the > larger, focused, effort will have to. Yes/No? Yes. It is all voluntary, in any case. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Naxos Themes Update
I updated again Naxos and Naxos Clear themes. Fixed text color, metacity and more improve. For more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid Some Screenshoot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=naxos_preview_0.6.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=naxos3_0.6.png Clear: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=naxosclear3_0.6.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NaxosIntrepid?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=naxosclear_preview_0.6.png Opinions? gp I'm trying to make a lp project and bzr branch. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Project Kyūdō
Il giorno dom, 21/09/2008 alle 22.15 +0200, Thorsten Wilms ha scritto: > Hi! > > While the theme team process seems to work very well now, I think we > could do better. My allies and I would like to push things towards a > solid design process. > > One that starts with the question what it actually is what we want to > achieve, what our message is and who we are addressing. Goals we can > agree on and that will lead us through the design, helping us to > collaborate in a larger team in a meaningful way. > > A process that will lead us out of the shadows of purely personal > opinion and hidden assumptions towards the light of reason. > > A process where we will not jump unto the first idea, but develop and > test several designs for each little part. Where we will not restart on > the next cycle, but build upon the existing. Continuous refinement. > > One that will offer anyone a chance to learn about design in a deeper > way and that will show onlookers that we are damn serious while we enjoy > the ride! > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines > > > Please read through it carefully. As you can see, it is by no means > complete. That's where you come in! All content, all questions and > suggestions can be discussed right here. Consider to start new threads > for specifics. Tell us how you think and feel about this! > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > I agree. I think that is the right way to improve Ubuntu. gp -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
