Re: [ubuntu-art] How should an Ubuntu button widget look like?

2008-11-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 21:27 +0200, Anton Kerezov wrote:
> 
> What engine will be used to implement this? Are you going to take
> advantage of the new css engine or ...

Generally, the template is prepared for the css-engine. It can already
use the template SVG file, but things are still in flux and will remain
so since there are many widgets to add ;)

Regarding such auras, graphics that extend beyond the initial size of a
widget: I don't know if any current engine can do it or if the
css-engine will support it in the future.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] How should an Ubuntu button widget look like?

2008-11-28 Thread Anton Kerezov
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> It's a good start. Sadly the "auras" for the focused states extend to
> outside the button area. This will not work without special support.
>

What engine will be used to implement this? Are you going to take advantage
of the new css engine or ...



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Re: [ubuntu-art] How should an Ubuntu button widget look like?

2008-11-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 14:59 -0300, spg76 wrote:
> Hi, Thorsten.
> I never post about this but I want to tell you that I really like the
> whole approach that you want to give to Kyudo.
> Also, I really like your button designs and I'm looking forward to see
> how they look with the CSS theming engine

Thank you very much! :D


> Inspired by your buttons, I made a quick design. I don't know if I
> have to edit the wiki or if I have to sent it to you.

Please edit the wiki. Ideally change the filename to include your name
and attach it to the wiki page. Insert your image followed by your name
and optionally some notes. Don't worry about formatting much, I will
take care of that as contributions arrive. Thanks!


> You can look them at
> http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5617/buttonsetvs9.png.
> They are a little raw, but it's my first attempt :)

It's a good start. Sadly the "auras" for the focused states extend to
outside the button area. This will not work without special support.


To everyone: feel encouraged to play with every single aspect of the
buttons. The roundness, shading, the way focus is indicated ...
Even prelight doesn't have to look like a lit button ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] How should an Ubuntu button widget look like?

2008-11-28 Thread spg76
Hi, Thorsten.
I never post about this but I want to tell you that I really like the whole
approach that you want to give to Kyudo.
Also, I really like your button designs and I'm looking forward to see how
they look with the CSS theming engine
Inspired by your buttons, I made a quick design. I don't know if I have to
edit the wiki or if I have to sent it to you.
You can look them at
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5617/buttonsetvs9.png.
They are a little raw, but it's my first attempt :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Yukai theme ( Metacity )

2008-11-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 12:41 +0100, Bart Van Loy wrote:
>  
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Auticoder

Looks like you want a strong glossy look. Well, I think this simple 2
tone step doesn't cut it, because you need a well-meaning beholder to
not see just 2 colors instead of the impression of glossiness.

I suggest you try subtle gradients and study how real world objects with
such surfaces look, preferably in a controlled environment (that is
knowing or even defining ceiling, walls, floor).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Yukai theme ( Metacity )

2008-11-28 Thread SorinN
Pretty elegant, original minimize button.
Congrats !.

2008/11/28 Bart Van Loy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi everyone ,
>
> I'm working on a new theme as i told before .
> I did some more work on the buttons , giving it a smoother look .
>
> Here you'll find it :
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Auticoder
>
> Feel free to comment
>
> Greetings ,
>
> Bart
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-28 Thread Cory K.
Michael Stephenson wrote:
> Sorry Cory, I appreciate you are the only sane factor on this list, my
> only real opinion is that you could word things more
> nicely to make people feel more welcome and that could have been
> summed up in one sentence in one post without
> needing defending and without any inflammatory language.

This is where opinion comes in. Like I've said before. It wasn't meant
mean or personal I even said that.

"mr wrote: no need for insults"


"I wrote: It wasn't personal. Please don't top-post." <- Which is admittedly 
*ALOT* better than my past rants on the subject.

If you notice, he hasn't said anything and I was done. So you took some 
personal offense and said something. Which is fine but you only assumed what my 
intentions were and never asked questions. :) I appreciate the interweb is 
non-emoting but if one is looking for a fight one can usually find it. I had to 
learn this as well and started asking questions instead of assuming someone was 
being pissy.

If I'm pissed, or think someone is a , I'll tell you. 
Otherwise it's just plain strait-forward chat without malice.

But now, I really am done. This has run its course and I'm sure we have better 
things to do. ;)

-Cory K.

PS: We have other "sane" people on this list. They just don't post as much as 
I. :P




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[ubuntu-art] Yukai theme ( Metacity )

2008-11-28 Thread Bart Van Loy
Hi everyone ,

I'm working on a new theme as i told before .
I did some more work on the buttons , giving it a smoother look .

Here you'll find it :

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Auticoder

Feel free to comment

Greetings ,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Stephenson
Sorry about last night, I got sucked into replying to defend my position,
which I have very little personal interest in.
My opinion was not that top posting is good, behaviours of people not
following netiquette should of course be corrected,
just that you can chastise and be rude to people while still saying please,
it's not what you say it is the way you say it,
and too often people's first post to this list results in their opinion
being completely belittled/ignored followed by a top posting
comment. Which would feel like you are showing them the door.
Sorry Cory, I appreciate you are the only sane factor on this list, my only
real opinion is that you could word things more
nicely to make people feel more welcome and that could have been summed up
in one sentence in one post without
needing defending and without any inflammatory language.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-28 Thread nilux
Le vendredi 28 novembre 2008 à 09:18 +0200, Jimmy Angelakos a écrit :

> Seriously now, this has gone too far and is now impeding the
> functioning of this mailing list.
> 

> It is not two or three guys' "fascist" opinion that you should not
> top-post. Personally, I've been using mailing lists for 15 years on the
> Internet and 5 more on the modem BBSs we used to communicate before that.

Actually I think this IS the problem; not the fact that you are suited
to mailing lists, but the fact that people that come here are not, and
we must understand this. Many are artists, and they don't even know what
"top posting" is. A single 'please do not top-post' warning is not
enough since it confuses these people and might appear rude to them.

We cannot solve the 'problem' of mailing lists usability to new users,
but we really *need* these people to contribute, so maybe we should
explain better. It only takes a few words : 'oh and by the way, please
reply below the quoted message for best readability'.

Or maybe we could find another way to communicate with artists and users
in a way that suits them more (e.g. a moderated artwork section in the
ubuntu forums), while keeping this mailing list for more technical
discussions.

My $0,02 ;)

-nilux


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