Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Countdown Banner

[John Baer]

On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 23:42 +, Michael Stephenson wrote:

> 2009/3/25 Matthew Nuzum 
> 
> > 2009/3/25 John Baer :
> > > Jaunty Beta is out tomorrow, what is the status of the count down
> > > banner?
> > >
> >
> > If you were on the web presence team mailing list you'd know, but
> > since you're not you'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out.
> But,
> > the good news is, tomorrow you will have an answer. ;-)
> >
> >
> Or you could check out the wiki
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners#Final,%20with%
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Michael,

Got it, thanks ...

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[david zondlo]

I believe if you changed the note to an eight note (such as:
http://staff.fcps.net/eisaacs/Paws%20Performers/eighth%20note.jpg), it would
look much, much better :D

Great Work!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[Cory K.]

Ryan Henningsen wrote:
> Icons are metaphors.

Well, kinda. I think it depends on the design direction. With Breathe
and in Oxygen we're going for literal representation. Buuf is an example
of a more metaphorical set. IMO.

> By removing the music note you cripple the metaphor and
> now the icon looks like a generic PCI card.

Not so true. Here's Oxygens icon:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3743/audiocard.png Pretty literal.
Looks like any soundcard I've seen. The strength in this one though is
the size of the in/output jacks. Makes it more recognizable.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon

[Matthew Lye]

I would like to see something that combines both, but without infringing on
the windows trademark.

Say a wine glass but instead of the red wine inside put the windows logo
colors filling the glass in the same pattern?

-Matthew Lye

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 10:54 +0100 schrieb Tibault Damman:
> > 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Do you actually plan on using a "Windows" logo for the wine
> > icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like
> > to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo
> > each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be
> > a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's
> > infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear,
> > imho.
> >
> > Cordially, SD.
> >
> > I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either.
> > I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using
> > (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is?
> >
> >
> > Tibault
>
> A windows-flag is visually better for all theme-colours (bright and
> dark), but "Wine" *is* a glass with liquid. Something else is too
> radikal. :) So it *must* be a glass with wine ...
>
> Hey what happens with the windows-flag ... so there are Windows-Apps
> inside. ;) :D
>
> Sincerely Oliver
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[Ryan Henningsen]

2009/3/26 Ryan Prior 

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, daniel planas armangué <
> daniplana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the
>> > card a little bigger.
>> > Anyway, great work.
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>>
>> thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand
>> the icon.
>
>
> I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers
> and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users
> probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound
> card icon, either.
>
> If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea.
> If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any
> sound, so the note would be gone.
>

Icons are metaphors. By removing the music note you cripple the metaphor and
now the icon looks like a generic PCI card.

For all we know that could be an icon for all hardware devices, a network
card, anything. The sound card makes it clear to computer savvy users, and
non-technically inclined people will relate the piece of hardware and the
music note and know that that must be part of the computer related to sound.
So if their having sound problems, that's were they'd look.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave metacity on Jaunty

[Matthew Lye]

Can be adjusted via gconf-editor or going System ->Preferences -> Appearance
and selecting the Fonts tab.

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2009/3/27 Anton Kerezov 

>  Hello everybody,
>
>
>
> As I see on many screenshot the font sizes in jaunty are very small thus
> making the metacity look very ugly. Does anybody knows a way to fix this?
> Cory, Kenneth, anybody?
>
>
>
> Here’s a pic with bug from UbuntuForums:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107655&d=1238046083
>
>
>
>
>
> Anton
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Jeremy JT. Taylor]

>Icons are used to express ideas, actions, and they should be
immediately recognizable. Ubuntu is marketed as a Linux distro for
everyone and no one new to >Linux will know that the program they want
is next to the Wine glass. And when they figure it out, they'll still be
wondering why it's a wine glass.

The issue isn't really with recognition. The issue as Cory has stated is
that the Developers/designers of wine, have made the decision to
represent their solution with a wine glass.  We wouldn't want to
redesign their logo for them. If Firefox extensions had their own
category we wouldn't want to redesign the Firefox logo either, it would
be some representation similar to the current Firefox branded logo.

 

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Yann Dìnendal]

>
> Icons are used to express ideas, actions, and they should be immediately
> recognizable. Ubuntu is marketed as a Linux distro for everyone and no one
> new to Linux will know that the program they want is next to the Wine glass.
> And when they figure it out, they'll still be wondering why it's a wine
> glass.
>


This is less a problem as Wine isn't installed by default... So someone new
to Linux would'nt see the icons without having first installed something
called "Wine"...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] scanner

[Ryan Prior]

2009/3/26 spg76 

> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for scanner.


You may think this is silly, but I cannot emphasize enough how happy that
icon makes me. Scanner icons in Linux distros I've used have always been
*terrible*, especially the XSane icon, and it has always really irked me.
This is an ideal example of the "more perfect than reality" that Breathe is
shooting for, IMO. Not all icons fit that bill, but this one does.

By the way, Cory: I think you should reject this icon and put in the XSane
icon instead. Upstream branding, you know. =P
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Ryan Henningsen]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Cory K.  wrote:

> Ryan Prior wrote:
> > 2009/3/26 Chris Tooley 
> >
> >> I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows
> >> without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I
> copied
> >> it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop:
> >>
> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439
> >>
> >> Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an
> >> idea starter.. :)
> >
> > That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but
> it
> > is already better than the Wine icon IMO.
> >
>
> Generally, I like it, but this is where my "upstream branding" worries
> come into play.
>
> Ok. I'll make a command decision here and say the icon for this *must*
> be a wine glass similar to the one upstream WINE ships. Regardless of
> what people think the transparent glass (it could always have some white
> tint to it or something) will look like on darker menus.
>
>
> -Cory K.
>

You should note companies are required by law to protect their IP,
Trademarks, and other marks or they risk forfeiting them.

So using the "wavy" Window logo would definitely be copyright infringement
as would using the colors from it in the style shown above. But if you are
trying to show a relationship to the Window's OS, creating a generic window
icon with Ubuntu themed colors would be well within your rights because it
is a parody.

Microsoft doesn't hold a copyright on all icons that look like windows just
like Apple doesn't have a copyright on all icons that look like apples.

Icons are used to express ideas, actions, and they should be immediately
recognizable. Ubuntu is marketed as a Linux distro for everyone and no one
new to Linux will know that the program they want is next to the Wine glass.
And when they figure it out, they'll still be wondering why it's a wine
glass.

They will, however, immediately recognize the "window" icon and relate it to
the "Start" button and know that's where their programs are.

Besides if Apple was in the wrong Microsoft wouldn't have missed the chance
to roast them.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Actions"

[Cory K.]

Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote:
> Me again ... :) It's important to talk and impress some feelings looking
> around. :)
>
> System-shutdown ... seems to look finally totally acceptable - nice.
> This should work now.
>
> System-Search is not accepted by me. The microphone and differents Icons
> have the 45°-fall. Here I can't define the *°-fall. I will specific me
> more. The ocular is too small! The symbols like "+", "-" and "fit
> page"!!! won't have place in small sizes - so this loupe will be taken
> as default I see a problem with it. Another critic is the old-style of
> it. The rest of the icons are up to date and modern ... this style don't
> fits with the rest. For this reason I created quickly a new one ... :o
> Important: I don't say it's ugly ... it's only for the reason I wrote
> above. ;)
>   

> The symbols like "+", "-" and "fit page"!!! won't have place in small size...

This is a very valid *technical* reason you did not address before. One
I had not considered.

As for *style* I didn't see it as old or new. Didn't matter here. :) For
me, the choice came down to the fact that your submission was blurry by
comparison to the rest of the set.

However, any new submissions along with real-world/in use (screenshots
would work) evidence that the current loop is to small in the cases you
site will be greatly appreciated.

> Conclusion:
>
> Would be nice the *community* here votes their favourite, so we have two
> different kinds for system-search (old-style or modern) made. Would be
> really nice to know how the voting is. :)

Voting is crap. We put it up. Discuss. Move on. (but still open to
discussion later)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

[Anton Kerezov]

> -Original Message-
> From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art-
> boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Cory K.
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:10 PM
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
> 
> Yes. I would say for 1 the inside of the folder is too gray. There's
> also a softness here that doesn't fit Sebastien's (nor the current
> folder icons) crisp feel.

I'm only talking about the degree of openness here and that the edges are in
diff position than the back side. But it wasn't as blurry as the previous
folder icon in the wiki I must say.

Btw is that crisp enough?
http://murphymac.com/slib/images/make-a-custom-leopard-folder.jpg

 
> 
> Bring it on! :P
> 
> I gotta say though, this is really gonna be a opinion thing here. I'll
> try to get as wide a opinion as I can before I make a switch. Opinions
> from heads at Canonical will also have some weight.

np


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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Actions"

[Oliver Scholtz 1]

Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 21:20 +0100 schrieb Oliver Scholtz 2:
> Me again ... :) It's important to talk and impress some feelings looking
> around. :)
> 
> System-shutdown ... seems to look finally totally acceptable - nice.
> This should work now.
> 
> System-Search is not accepted by me. The microphone and differents Icons
> have the 45°-fall. Here I can't define the *°-fall. I will specific me
> more. The ocular is too small! The symbols like "+", "-" and "fit
> page"!!! won't have place in small sizes - so this loupe will be taken
> as default I see a problem with it. Another critic is the old-style of
> it. The rest of the icons are up to date and modern ... this style don't
> fits with the rest. For this reason I created quickly a new one ... :o
> Important: I don't say it's ugly ... it's only for the reason I wrote
> above. ;)
> 
> 
> Conclusion:
> 
> Would be nice the *community* here votes their favourite, so we have two
> different kinds for system-search (old-style or modern) made. Would be
> really nice to know how the voting is. :)
> 
> my 2¢
> Oliver
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

[Cory K.]

Anton Kerezov wrote:
>> You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say "it's
>> bad" without giving info to back your opinion.;)
>> 
>
> Well it looks too blurry and the front pane looks as if it's shrinking by
> going up.
> See this old new wave screenshot. It has an experimental folder icon in it's
> left corner:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newwave-meta-twf.png
>
> I have made this long ago and I don't keep the sources but my idea is
> generally that. The colors may be further tweaked.
>   

Yes. I would say for 1 the inside of the folder is too gray. There's
also a softness here that doesn't fit Sebastien's (nor the current
folder icons) crisp feel.

>> It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win
>> given a great submission.
>> 
>
> In that case I might join the competition ;)
>   

Bring it on! :P

I gotta say though, this is really gonna be a opinion thing here. I'll
try to get as wide a opinion as I can before I make a switch. Opinions
from heads at Canonical will also have some weight.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

[Anton Kerezov]

> -Original Message-
> From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art-
> boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Cory K.
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:42 PM
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

> You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say "it's
> bad" without giving info to back your opinion.;)

Well it looks too blurry and the front pane looks as if it's shrinking by
going up.
See this old new wave screenshot. It has an experimental folder icon in it's
left corner:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFile&;
do=view&target=newwave-meta-twf.png

I have made this long ago and I don't keep the sources but my idea is
generally that. The colors may be further tweaked.

> It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win
> given a great submission.

In that case I might join the competition ;)


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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] scanner

[spg76]

I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for scanner.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)

[spg76]

2009/3/26 Cory K. 

> I uploaded what's on the wiki and they really look alot better in the
> set now. Much sharper feel. Also, the "folder-open" needs the same
> spit-shine.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Status
>
>
> -Cory K.
>

I forgot about this. I'll edit the icon later and post the files in the
wiki.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

[Cory K.]

Anton Kerezov wrote:
> I think that the folder icon is not at all as good as the rest of the icons
> in the set. It needs some very serious tweaks as this is the one image users
> see most. I'd be glad to help with it asa I get some free time. 
> Wrote this email just to notify about it.

You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say "it's
bad" without giving info to back your opinion.;)

There are details in here that to me are a good mix between Human and
Oxygen and would need to be in any new submission. Like that kinda
upward orange glow at the bottom of the folder. As well as the dots on
the back of the folder. Orange outer color and light inside.

This is not to say this icon is permanent, but the longer you wait with
a new submission the harder it will be to turn back (as the folder is
the basis for many icons) and change my mind. ;) *Many* people have
liked it. Less have not. So I'm not just gonna switch it whenever
someone says "It's ugly".  It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win
given a great submission.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon

[Anton Kerezov]

I think that the folder icon is not at all as good as the rest of the icons
in the set. It needs some very serious tweaks as this is the one image users
see most. I'd be glad to help with it asa I get some free time. 
Wrote this email just to notify about it.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists

[Cory K.]

It's also suggested people download a fresh template from the wiki as I
have removed some metadata that I think we could do without. The
template should always be used as the start unless you are working off
an existing Breathe icon.

This will help when people forget to edit the icon layer to path/icon. ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Cory K.]

Ryan Prior wrote:
> 2009/3/26 Chris Tooley 
>   
>> I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows
>> without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied
>> it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop:
>> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439
>>
>> Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an
>> idea starter.. :)
>
> That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but it
> is already better than the Wine icon IMO.
>   

Generally, I like it, but this is where my "upstream branding" worries
come into play.

Ok. I'll make a command decision here and say the icon for this *must*
be a wine glass similar to the one upstream WINE ships. Regardless of
what people think the transparent glass (it could always have some white
tint to it or something) will look like on darker menus.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Ryan Prior]

2009/3/26 Chris Tooley 

> I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows
> without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied
> it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop:
> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439
>
> Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an
> idea starter.. :)
>
> Thanks
> ~Chris
>

That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but it
is already better than the Wine icon IMO.
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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR upload March 26th 2008

[Cory K.]

There revisions apply both to trunk and the packaging branch.

* ADDED: system-search audio-input-microphone battery camera-web
  media-floppy
* UPDATED: folder user-home

I feel pretty good about these. I could see another revision happening
on media-floppy though as there's still some discussion about it.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)

[Cory K.]

I uploaded what's on the wiki and they really look alot better in the
set now. Much sharper feel. Also, the "folder-open" needs the same
spit-shine.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Status


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists

[Cory K.]

Cory K. wrote:
> Now that we have a few more people doing submissions I thought I'd take
> this time to give a few notes on some things I've seen and to keep in mind.
>
> * Please remove the "Instructions" and "Palette" layers from
>   submissions. This saves filesize.
> * "Vacuum Defs" is very important. (File>Vacuum Defs) It will remove
>   alot of cruft that will also save on filesize. I had one today
>   that went from 1.2MB>234KB
> * Make sure you *don't* delete the "plate" layer. This happens from
>   time to time and the layer is very important to rendering the icons.
> * Align your icons in the same spot over each plate size. Some
>   submissions have 1 icon on the far fight then another size on the
>   right or center.
> * *Don't* add additional metadata to the files. Naming objects and
>   such. I have 1 icon giving issue atm because of this. Only change
>   the layer name according to the path/name the icon should be.
> * Before submitting please make sure things are on their proper
>   layers and the "plate" layer is hidden. In the end, you should
>   only have 2 layers.

* If you use an icon from another source it *must* be compatible
  with the license used on Breathe (see wiki) and you must disclose
  it's origin.


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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists

[Cory K.]

Now that we have a few more people doing submissions I thought I'd take
this time to give a few notes on some things I've seen and to keep in mind.

* Please remove the "Instructions" and "Palette" layers from
  submissions. This saves filesize.
* "Vacuum Defs" is very important. (File>Vacuum Defs) It will remove
  alot of cruft that will also save on filesize. I had one today
  that went from 1.2MB>234KB
* Make sure you *don't* delete the "plate" layer. This happens from
  time to time and the layer is very important to rendering the icons.
* Align your icons in the same spot over each plate size. Some
  submissions have 1 icon on the far fight then another size on the
  right or center.
* *Don't* add additional metadata to the files. Naming objects and
  such. I have 1 icon giving issue atm because of this. Only change
  the layer name according to the path/name the icon should be.
* Before submitting please make sure things are on their proper
  layers and the "plate" layer is hidden. In the end, you should
  only have 2 layers.

That's about it. :)

I'll be doing a major cleanup on the Submissions page soon and uploading
6 or so icons to BZR today.

Have fun!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)

[Cory K.]

Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote:
> Folder:
>
> 48x48: right - top isn't well.

That isn't enough info. I have no clue what you're talking about.

Note, that alot of the 48px icons are just the 128px ones scaled down.
So whatever your issue is. could be a result of that.

/Also/ remember that the preview can look different that the render. ;)
I'll put these changes in BZR soom and people can try them out for
themselves.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)

[Oliver Scholtz 1]

Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 16:37 +0100 schrieb daniel planas
armangué:
> sebastian fix shadow under folders on small sizes. i think are better
> than my old versions. i will remove ;)
> 
> 

Folder:

48x48: right - top isn't well.

16x16: too dark outline. the right edge goes out.

Battery:

left - top of the battery is too bright.
on the right side is a little blur-error. (128x128, 48x48, 16x16)

Maybe it should be fixed for be perfectly ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to "Categories"

[Chris Tooley]

I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows
without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied
it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop:
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439

Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea
starter.. :)

Thanks
~Chris

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Cory K.  wrote:

> Ryan Prior wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1  >wrote:
> >
> >> One ask? How are the ideas for Wine? The glass wine is not really a good
> >> icon, because in 24x24 and dark themes it isn't well for seeing it.
> >> Maybe the Windows-flag would be better? Hey it's only a opinion ... :D
> >>
> >
> >
> > I don't like the wine glass either, and think that something like the
> > Windows flag would be better. Thorsten did a wonderful icon for Wubi (
> > http://wubi-installer.org/) so perhaps we can take inspiration from that
> and
> > create an icon that says "here be Windows software" rather than "here be
> a
> > weird pun".
> >
> >
>
> Now while I'm not totally against dumping the WINE glass (the win logo
> might be fine) we have to remember this is also playing with upstream
> branding. Something I'm keen to try to avoid changing radically.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:19 -0500, Ryan Prior wrote:


> I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their
> computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup.
> However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices
> menu to find the sound card icon, either.
> 
> If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute
> idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't
> actually make any sound, so the note would be gone.

I think a realistic card combined with a well rendered note would be
perfectly acceptable. The submission isn't far off. The flag of the note
should be changed to a more traditional shape.

Other possibilities would be to show a note, an iconic speaker or a sine
wave as graphic printed on the board.

Or to concentrate on the presence of i/o ports, but it would be tricky
to make that clear.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)

[daniel planas armangué]

sebastian fix shadow under folders on small sizes. i think are better
than my old versions. i will remove ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[daniel planas armangué]

El jue, 26-03-2009 a las 10:19 -0500, Ryan Prior escribió:
> I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their
> computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup.
> However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices
> menu to find the sound card icon, either.
> 
> If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute
> idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't
> actually make any sound, so the note would be gone.
>   
> then you are sure that I remove the note sound?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[Ryan Prior]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, daniel planas armangué <
daniplana...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the
> > card a little bigger.
> > Anyway, great work.
> > --
> > Seba (AKA spg76)
> > http://www.ubuntu-ar.org
>
> thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand
> the icon.


I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers
and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users
probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound
card icon, either.

If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea.
If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any
sound, so the note would be gone.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon

[Oliver Scholtz 1]

Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 10:54 +0100 schrieb Tibault Damman:
> 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier 
> Hello,
> 
> Do you actually plan on using a "Windows" logo for the wine
> icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like
> to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo
> each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be
> a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's
> infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear,
> imho.
> 
> Cordially, SD.
> 
> I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either.
> I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using
> (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is?
> 
> 
> Tibault

A windows-flag is visually better for all theme-colours (bright and
dark), but "Wine" *is* a glass with liquid. Something else is too
radikal. :) So it *must* be a glass with wine ...

Hey what happens with the windows-flag ... so there are Windows-Apps
inside. ;) :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon

[Ryan Prior]

2009/3/26 Tibault Damman 

> 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier 
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> Do you actually plan on using a "Windows" logo for the wine icon ? That's
>> really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy
>> if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of
>> Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's
>> infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho.
>>
>> Cordially, SD.
>>
>
> I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either.
> I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors),
> I'm not really sure what the problem is?
>

Hold on, fellas. There has been some discussion about what icon to use
there, and I've argued that something resembling the Windows icon would be
best. Here is why I think so: a menu icon should make you think of what that
menu will show, to ease navigation. A glass of wine only says "Windows
programs" to somebody who is familiar with the Wine project and "gets" the
joke. New users will have no way of knowing what that menu does without
guess-and-check. So, an icon which makes them think "Windows" would be the
better option.

That being said, the fact that a few (talking 2 or 3 here) of us on the art
mailing list have expressed that opinion does not come close to meaning that
it's going to happen. If it did happen, it wouldn't be until Karmic Koala,
and there would be plenty of time for discussion first. We haven't even seen
any mockups of what the new icon might look like, and we definitely wouldn't
use an actual Windows logo, since that would be way non-free.

Please feel free to be a part of this discussion.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card

[daniel planas armangué]

> I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the
> card a little bigger.
> Anyway, great work.
> -- 
> Seba (AKA spg76)
> http://www.ubuntu-ar.org

thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand
the icon.


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[ubuntu-art] New Wave metacity on Jaunty

[Anton Kerezov]

Hello everybody,

 

As I see on many screenshot the font sizes in jaunty are very small thus
making the metacity look very ugly. Does anybody knows a way to fix this?
Cory, Kenneth, anybody?

 

Here's a pic with bug from UbuntuForums:

http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107655

&d=1238046083

 

 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon

[Tibault Damman]

2009/3/26 Steve Dodier 

>  Hello,
>
> Do you actually plan on using a "Windows" logo for the wine icon ? That's
> really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy
> if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of
> Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's
> infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho.
>
> Cordially, SD.
>

I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either.
I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors),
I'm not really sure what the problem is?

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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon

[Steve Dodier]

Hello,

Do you actually plan on using a "Windows" logo for the wine icon ? That's 
really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if 
i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine 
might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely 
nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho.

Cordially, SD.

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