Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:17 +0100, ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:22:39 +0200 > From: Kenneth Wimer > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2 > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200904301322.39870.kw...@ubuntu.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thursday 30 April 2009 04:02:00 John Baer wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:39 +0100, > ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > wrote: > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:56:39 +0200 > > > From: Thorsten Wilms > > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2 > > > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Message-ID: <1240919799.3463.9.ca...@charly> > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:06 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox > > > > > > > > I left justified the graphics and adjusted the text formatting. > > > > > > I'm for putting this into place now, but lets see what Kenneth > says. > > > > > > I would still set the sub-headings just bold, not italic. > > > > Agreed > > > > > "Need Help?" is not a good match for the table of contents. > > > > I changed the image to "Team Activities". > > > > > Aside of that, excellent work, John! > > I agree. The structure of the page is realy nice...the one thing that > still > rubs me the wrong way is the images used on the page. While they do > inspire a > feeling of simplicity and rawness which might make new members feel at > home I > get the feeling that they could be improved. Anyone have any ideas? > Ken, Is your desire to move this page into production assuming new artwork will come forward shortly, or would you prefer to keep the page off-line till a more polished look can be achieved? John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] view refresh is refreshed ...
El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 18:46 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió: > and ready for the real life. > > Breathe/submission > > Oliver > > PD: > > Daniel you are crazy quick and with this "tempo" we have the > actions-field finished soon. But some of your Icons are very good > sketches and needs already a final touch - with slowless and > perfection. ;) > > Sebastian can do the final quality-control and make some corrections > if > needed. <-- What about this? > > Oliver > > ok, i intent fix all of the icons i've done so far =) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] view refresh is refreshed ...
and ready for the real life. Breathe/submission Oliver PD: Daniel you are crazy quick and with this "tempo" we have the actions-field finished soon. But some of your Icons are very good sketches and needs already a final touch - with slowless and perfection. ;) Sebastian can do the final quality-control and make some corrections if needed. <-- What about this? Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
Am Donnerstag, den 30.04.2009, 18:29 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue: > El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 18:17 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió: > > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:07 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > > > > > > i think i feixed all mails, if you have time, revised > > > > Took another look at mail-send-receive. > > > > The plate layer is empty. It's likely easiest to fix if you insert the > > graphics into a fresh template. > > > > You should turn on the pixel-grid (# Key, at least on this keyboard). > > All horizontal and vertical edges should be exactly on the grid for > > sharp rendering. > > > > See > > https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/CommonMistakes > > > > The outline or your arrows is less than 1 pixel strong. Avoid this, it > > can't be rendered well. > > > > > > It's much better to get you to the point where you get all of this right > > than constantly needing someone else to fix it ;) > > > > Please ask if anything isn't clear. > > > > -- > > Thorsten Wilms > > > > thorwil's design for free software: > > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > > > > fix the layer of plate, but there are many icons in breathe edges that > are less than 1 pixel i rendered well (eg the computer or folder) > > Yes, because it's very overloaded ... than it works sometimes. ;) In general use fix line-strongs like 0,5 - 1 - 1,2 - 1,5 - 2 etc. If you zoom and your grid (#) is on you can see the blocks. Every block is a pixel. If you are in the middle of this pixel, the final result is blur. So shift your lines and fillings so good you can in this quadrants. ;) okay? :) Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 18:17 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió: > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:07 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > > > > i think i feixed all mails, if you have time, revised > > Took another look at mail-send-receive. > > The plate layer is empty. It's likely easiest to fix if you insert the > graphics into a fresh template. > > You should turn on the pixel-grid (# Key, at least on this keyboard). > All horizontal and vertical edges should be exactly on the grid for > sharp rendering. > > See > https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/CommonMistakes > > The outline or your arrows is less than 1 pixel strong. Avoid this, it > can't be rendered well. > > > It's much better to get you to the point where you get all of this right > than constantly needing someone else to fix it ;) > > Please ask if anything isn't clear. > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > fix the layer of plate, but there are many icons in breathe edges that are less than 1 pixel i rendered well (eg the computer or folder) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:07 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > > i think i feixed all mails, if you have time, revised Took another look at mail-send-receive. The plate layer is empty. It's likely easiest to fix if you insert the graphics into a fresh template. You should turn on the pixel-grid (# Key, at least on this keyboard). All horizontal and vertical edges should be exactly on the grid for sharp rendering. See https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/CommonMistakes The outline or your arrows is less than 1 pixel strong. Avoid this, it can't be rendered well. It's much better to get you to the point where you get all of this right than constantly needing someone else to fix it ;) Please ask if anything isn't clear. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 15:49 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió: > Am Donnerstag, den 30.04.2009, 14:17 +0200 schrieb daniel planas > armangue: > > i updated mail series ;) > > > > > > mail-read and mail-new are awesome. ;) > > mail-mark-junk, the red should be more intensive. > > mail-reply-sender should have a darker outline in the arrows (small > sizes). > > mail-mark-important: > In the 22x22-icon the "!" can be moved a little bit more to left. > The 16x16-icon need a new "!" drawed for see better that this is a > "!". ;) > > But all over ... very nice. ;) > > Be sure that all icons are on their "plate" and correctly placed... > > Oliver > > > corrected your suggestions, the maimail-mark-important I created a second version for the 16x16 icon, Pd: and I've also added new-folder icon in accordance with the new-mail simbol -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
Am Donnerstag, den 30.04.2009, 14:17 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue: > i updated mail series ;) > > mail-read and mail-new are awesome. ;) mail-mark-junk, the red should be more intensive. mail-reply-sender should have a darker outline in the arrows (small sizes). mail-mark-important: In the 22x22-icon the "!" can be moved a little bit more to left. The 16x16-icon need a new "!" drawed for see better that this is a "!". ;) But all over ... very nice. ;) Be sure that all icons are on their "plate" and correctly placed... Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] input-mouse
Am Donnerstag, den 30.04.2009, 09:52 -0300 schrieb spg76: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Cory K. wrote: > Sebastien: Could you also chime in on some of the newer > submissions by > Daniel and Oliver? > > Sorry I've been a little offline lately but I solved my computer > problems so I have no excuse now :) > As soon as I can I'll take a look at the submissions and try to > respond on their respective threads. > -- > Seba (AKA spg76) > http://www.ubuntu-ar.org > I am correct a little bit view-refresh. ;) Just for info ... Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 14:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió: > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:17 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > > i updated mail series ;) > > I checked the arrow. The inner contours do not follow the outline as > precise as they should. What should be a horizontal segment isn't. > > The go-up icon is also asymmetrical. > > It's nice to see your contribution, but please slow down a bit to work > in a more precise manner. Every pixel counts. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > i think i feixed all mails, if you have time, revised -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] input-mouse
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Cory K. wrote: > Sebastien: Could you also chime in on some of the newer submissions by > Daniel and Oliver? > Sorry I've been a little offline lately but I solved my computer problems so I have no excuse now :) As soon as I can I'll take a look at the submissions and try to respond on their respective threads. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
El jue, 30-04-2009 a las 14:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió: > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:17 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > > i updated mail series ;) > > I checked the arrow. The inner contours do not follow the outline as > precise as they should. What should be a horizontal segment isn't. > > The go-up icon is also asymmetrical. > > It's nice to see your contribution, but please slow down a bit to work > in a more precise manner. Every pixel counts. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > I fix mail-send-receive icon , what do you think?, even if you find more errors or bugs you can correct yourself i'm revising other mail submissions -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:17 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote: > i updated mail series ;) I checked the arrow. The inner contours do not follow the outline as precise as they should. What should be a horizontal segment isn't. The go-up icon is also asymmetrical. It's nice to see your contribution, but please slow down a bit to work in a more precise manner. Every pixel counts. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mail series
i updated mail series ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Concepts outside the scope of theming
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 09:04 +0300, Radu Silviu Ionut wrote: > I see that the UserInteraction has been removed > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UserInteraction , why? Not removed, it's now at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Concepts/Panels_and_Bars It contains concepts that would require developer effort. Rather much of that for the mixed title/menbar idea. Even with dedicated developers, it would be very unlikely to be ready and tested in time for Karmic. The new Incoming/Concepts section exists for exactly this kind of proposal. Incoming/Karmic shall only contain realistic artwork submissions and proposals. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2
On Thursday 30 April 2009 04:02:00 John Baer wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:39 +0100, ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > wrote: > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:56:39 +0200 > > From: Thorsten Wilms > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2 > > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > Message-ID: <1240919799.3463.9.ca...@charly> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:06 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox > > > > > > I left justified the graphics and adjusted the text formatting. > > > > I'm for putting this into place now, but lets see what Kenneth says. > > > > I would still set the sub-headings just bold, not italic. > > Agreed > > > "Need Help?" is not a good match for the table of contents. > > I changed the image to "Team Activities". > > > Aside of that, excellent work, John! I agree. The structure of the page is realy nice...the one thing that still rubs me the wrong way is the images used on the page. While they do inspire a feeling of simplicity and rawness which might make new members feel at home I get the feeling that they could be improved. Anyone have any ideas? Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Work Theme
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 02:11 +0100, Alex Armstrong wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:10:52 +0300 > From: Alex Armstrong > Subject: [ubuntu-art] Work Theme > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1240870252.11146.6.ca...@ubox> > Content-Type: text/plain > > There is a certain cancerous thinking that goes into designing a > default > theme for an OS/distro. I've been working on various possible defaults > for Ubuntu for almost a year now, and many of them were very pleasant > to > work with; but I've come to realise that while the palette (brown, > yellow, orange) is important in terms of branding, it is largely > irrelevant in terms of actual usage. > > I am not speaking of the sort of user who, like myself, relishes to > customize his virtual desktop environment. I have in mind the folks > who > use computers in a professional environment. > > Most places I've worked at (Caveat emptor: none of them were > IT-centric) > relied on PCs with Windows XP. The default XP theme is decidedly gaudy > and, in my limited experience, the tendency was to switch to the stark > Windows 2000 look. It's not an impressive theme, by any means, but it > is > unobtrusive and it gets the job done and, more importantly, allows the > user to ignore it. > > Assuming a similar market for Ubuntu--and I am sure a professional > market exists, even if limited--I think there may be a need for a > theme > to counterpoint the default. Something grey, dull, perhaps with a > pinch > of blue or possibly not; something that gets out of your way. > > I understand that this list was created to assist in the brand image > of > Ubuntu. I was just wondering if there may also be a need for a "work" > theme; something that simply does not draw attention to itself. > > Alex > > P.S. From the tone of this e-mail, you may be able to tell that I've > been working on themes along such lines. I was wondering if they would > be an acceptable contribution to the list and to the wiki. > Yes! Submit your ideas to the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic) and let's discuss on the list. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Planning for UDS
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 19:01 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:04:32 +0200 > From: Thorsten Wilms > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Planning for UDS > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1241006672.3267.5.ca...@charly> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 06:14 -0400, John Baer wrote: > > > I see from the Launchpad Blueprint for UDS 7 items titled > > "design-karmic" assigned to Ivanka Majic with a priority of > undefined. > > > > Is this a discussion for the list? > > I'm rather sure it is not. > > Ivanka Majic is the User Experience Definition Lead. From what I > recall > from the job posting, it is much about writing specifications. > > Anyway, these blueprints seem to be about building teams for design > sessions at the UDS. > Thanks for the update. Is anything planned for UDS this team can assist with? :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Open Week, sabdfl on artwork
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 00:05 +0100, Ryan Prior wrote: > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:05:39 -0500 > From: Ryan Prior > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Open Week, sabdfl on artwork > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork > Message-ID: > <1172c9070904291605t490b74bale254f393b0f1e...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Thorsten Wilms > wrote: > > sabdfl: Milos_SD: it has taken a long, long time to pull together a > > design team > > i had hoped to have that team in place six months ago, but it's > still > > forming > > i think we will make good progress in the next cycle > > you can already see a few things that have borne fruit from that > team > > notifications, time zone selector in installer, etc > > but it's fragmentary > > i'm pretty darn confident we'll have a new look for 10.04 > > but i think only pieces of that will emerge for 9.10 > > > Listen, they've been promising a "new look" since Intrepid at least, > and in the meantime individuals working in their spare time have come > up with numerous "new looks", and iterated them, and created yet more > "new looks" based on prior experiences. If in two+ years (!!) > Canonical cannot put together a "new look" for Ubuntu, then they > should either admit that their art direction has been incompetent and > tell us exactly what they have done to change that, or STFU and stop > promising a new look. > > Ryan Wow, I can see how frustrating this is but we need to remain transparent to the workings of Canonical and continue to grow the Team, create high quality submissions, and add value. Based on the conversations of late I would say we are on the right path. Cheers! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
