Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic boot and login - proposed designs

2009-08-14 Thread Saleel Velankar
Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
> Again, your feedback is more than welcome.
>
>   
Things I love:

New throbber. sleek.
White logo with slight glow.
White disability and power icons.
Overall dark gui: sexy

Things I don't love (but can see a reason for.)

Spotlight on 'floor', how does it look when there is only 1 user?
"Login Options" I think that this should be an icon like the other two 
white icons, perhaps a gears icon. I can see reasons against this.
In the GDM theme the white frame around the user selection box is 
darkened, this makes it so much less sexier. Those white borders really 
helped distinguish the box from the background. furthermore I don't 
think that the stroke color matches the stroke of the bottom options bar.


Things I cannot stand:

You will hate me for this, but the brown you chose is too lively and too 
dark. Making the brown more orangish, or even tannish, will highlight 
the sexiness of that dark sexy gui. 
http://desktoppub.about.com/od/colorpalettes/l/blcpbrown.htm
the link and the book the link refers to make interesting reading. :3

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Designing Ubuntu on a non-free software

2009-08-14 Thread Cory K.
Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quite recently some community members pointed out that the design team's 
> submissions have been created using proprietary software, like Flash or 
> Photoshop. I have a feeling that this is something that needs to be 
> addressed, as we're all trying to actively support free and open 
> software with our work.
>
> It is very true that we do use proprietary software (Flash and Photoshop 
> in particular) as well as free software (Inkscape rocks!) in our daily 
> work. This is largely due to the fact that most of us come from the 
> commercial design background and developed certain habits and workflows 
> – changing these requires time, and time is one of the things we really 
> miss :)
>
> Our primary goal is to make Ubuntu better. But that also means 
> contributing to the whole array of software that comes with Ubuntu, 
> including design apps. What we need is a critical mass of goodness, 
> which will help people like us (!) switch! I'm personally interested in 
> contributing to apps like GIMP or Inkscape and I'd appreciate any help 
> with getting in touch with the right people :)
>
>
> Mat
>
>
> P.S. I also think there's something strangely satisfying in beating 
> software companies with their own stick... (OMG, have I just recommended 
> using Windows!?? ;)
>   

Note, that this list is for *community* art. Not necessarily the art
that ships w/Ubuntu. That's up to Canonical.

In any event, here's the start of the previous discussion on this topic:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-April/009727.html


-Cory K.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic boot and login - proposed designs

2009-08-14 Thread David Zondlo
O.O You guys listened?!? Oh man, Ubuntu's community is > *

^-^ I honestly think it is much much better! For some reason -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=xsplash-2.png
is looking a little rough on the gradients (checked it on 4 different
monitors).

Now, what I don't like:
---
-The color of the bottom toolbar contrasts with the color the the
background tool much. They just look like mismatched browns :(

- The very contrasted white selections in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=gdm-menus-2.png
(Select Language and Mat) I like the fact that you guys are using a
solid color, I'm sure that really cuts down on the amount of images
needed! But something about the white looks off to me. Umm, I don't
believe light brown would look much better but mabye a light brown (or
light gray) really close to white, with a some kind of thick border of
darker brown (or darker gray) that is still pretty light :)


Oh, I just noticed the throbber! It looks much, much better!! Even tho
I dislike some things I think it has gotten much better since the last
one, and perhaps Iteration 3 will nail it :D

Anyways, just my $0.1
~Dave

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Designing Ubuntu on a non-free software

2009-08-14 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 18:33 +0100, Mat Tomaszewski wrote:

> It is very true that we do use proprietary software (Flash and Photoshop 
> in particular) as well as free software (Inkscape rocks!) in our daily 
> work. This is largely due to the fact that most of us come from the 
> commercial design background and developed certain habits and workflows 
> – changing these requires time, and time is one of the things we really 
> miss :)

Long term goals do not change the fact you need to get stuff done right
now. Nice that you address these concerns.

Inkscape rocks indeed. Just misses swatches and gradient meshes, I
think. GIMP is fine for many things, but not a PS replacement for
everything.

But for all I know, there's nothing even close to Flash as
authoring/mockup/simulation tool. No way around it. A combined 2d
animation and GUI development environment would be a very valuable
asset.

> Our primary goal is to make Ubuntu better. But that also means 
> contributing to the whole array of software that comes with Ubuntu, 
> including design apps. What we need is a critical mass of goodness, 
> which will help people like us (!) switch! I'm personally interested in 
> contributing to apps like GIMP or Inkscape and I'd appreciate any help 
> with getting in touch with the right people :)

Regarding Inkscape: aren't Bryce Harrington and Ted Gould among your
colleagues? ;)

GIMP: the team works with the interaction architect Peter Sikking.
There's a product vision, ongoing changes and plans. This makes it hard
to get involved. It also means there's not much need to :)


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thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/


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[ubuntu-art] Designing Ubuntu on a non-free software

2009-08-14 Thread Mat Tomaszewski
Hi,

Quite recently some community members pointed out that the design team's 
submissions have been created using proprietary software, like Flash or 
Photoshop. I have a feeling that this is something that needs to be 
addressed, as we're all trying to actively support free and open 
software with our work.

It is very true that we do use proprietary software (Flash and Photoshop 
in particular) as well as free software (Inkscape rocks!) in our daily 
work. This is largely due to the fact that most of us come from the 
commercial design background and developed certain habits and workflows 
– changing these requires time, and time is one of the things we really 
miss :)

Our primary goal is to make Ubuntu better. But that also means 
contributing to the whole array of software that comes with Ubuntu, 
including design apps. What we need is a critical mass of goodness, 
which will help people like us (!) switch! I'm personally interested in 
contributing to apps like GIMP or Inkscape and I'd appreciate any help 
with getting in touch with the right people :)


Mat


P.S. I also think there's something strangely satisfying in beating 
software companies with their own stick... (OMG, have I just recommended 
using Windows!?? ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic boot and login - proposed designs

2009-08-14 Thread Mat Tomaszewski
Hi,

First of all - many thanks for all the comments and suggestions we have 
received so far as well as all the new contributions. You guys rock.
We have been looking closely at every submission, and found many 
interesting ideas there, in particular regarding the color. We could not 
disagree with the general feeling that our initial proposal felt a bit 
"cold" and not really "human enough".

The second iteration can be viewed here 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo#Ubuntu%20Karmic%20boot%20demo%20and%20proposed%20GDM%20theme%20%E2%80%93%20Iteration%202

Again, your feedback is more than welcome.

Have a great weekend.

Cheers!

Mat

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