Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice Update
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 17:12 +0800, David Nelson wrote: I'm actively promoting the idea of a LibreOffice logo/mascot competition, and I would love to see an active involvement with Ubuntu Artwork in this initiative. I've posted about it in a dedicated thread in the LibO marketing list: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Logo-mascot-competition-td1903253.html#a1903253 You use sentences like if you have clear arguments against it, I'll drop the subject and OK, I'm ready to listen to all ideas against this. :-), but then you don't wait for even a single reply before you carry this over to elsewhere. I don't think this is fair to either project (and wherever else you may be posting). Well, my reply can be found right below your message, following that nabble link, now. Note that I don't doubt that you have the best intentions. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice Update
Hi Thorsten, :-) On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 18:04, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: You use sentences like if you have clear arguments against it, I'll drop the subject and OK, I'm ready to listen to all ideas against this. :-), but then you don't wait for even a single reply before you carry this over to elsewhere. In fact, I was responding to John's post, since he started this LibO-related thread, and since the thread I started on the LibreOffice marketing list relates directly to the communication and interaction I'd love to ignite between the projects. I don't think this is fair to either project (and wherever else you may be posting). Well, I'm sure no-one's mailbox is going to explode! As an enthusiastic user of Ubuntu Linux, a supporter of the recently-formed LibreOffice project, and a lover of FOSS software in general, I'd love to contribute towards breaking down the barriers between FOSS projects, and perhaps to put forward some outsider's ideas, even if people seem to find them unorthodox and convention-breaking. It's healthy and interesting to debate ideas constructively with an open mind. And it's intelligent and pragmatic to recognize and accept the learnings when all points of view have been properly examined. Well, my reply can be found right below your message, following that nabble link, now. Thank you for your time and goodwill in replying. I plan to let this thread sit a few days, to see what responses it brings, and then I'll post considered responses to all the ideas and opinions put forward. Note that I don't doubt that you have the best intentions. Thank you for that, Thorsten. :-) And I'm sure you do, too. I'd like to thank you for having stepped across the wall and made contact with the guys on the LibO marketing list. I hope it will be an on-going involvement. I really invite other people on this list to come and interact with the TDF/LibO people, too! David Nelson -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Survey
Hey J_Baer, Each time I've tried to paste you the link, we seem to miss each other on IRC. Here you go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010/Art Although responses were very muted so there isn't much data. Martin, On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 18:33 -0800, j_baer wrote: Vish - Martin - Thorsten, There was talk at UDS about doing a community survey. Any thoughts on how we can make this happen? John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Community-Survey-tp30210588p30210588.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Survey
DoctorMO wrote: Hey J_Baer, Each time I've tried to paste you the link, we seem to miss each other on IRC. Here you go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010/Art Although responses were very muted so there isn't much data. Martin, On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 18:33 -0800, j_baer wrote: Vish - Martin - Thorsten, There was talk at UDS about doing a community survey. Any thoughts on how we can make this happen? John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Community-Survey-tp30210588p30210588.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Martin, Thank you for putting this together. Sadly, my experience on the IRC has been terrible. It seems just when I start a dialogue something happens which pulls me away. :/ Hopefully this will improve over time. John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Community-Survey-tp30210588p30221453.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Nucleous Meeting
Hey everyone, I'd like for the key parties of our community here to sit down in IRC and talk about some of the things that we should be all agreeing to. If you plan on dedicating time to organising and helping with the group please fill out this doodle poll specifying when you'll be available: http://doodle.com/fwkh25nm6p93tsip Please note that this shows UTC times, so please convert for your time zone on those dates. I'd like to especially invite j_baer, thorwil, vish and saleel to the meeting. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] LibreOffice - An Open Apology
David, The desire of the Ubuntu community is to assist the LibreOffice community as best as we can. The negative comments expressed by some do not represent the community at large. Although frustrating to some, in the world of open source you do the best you can with the resources available. Surprisingly it works out very well. :-) If the desire of the LibreOffice community is to engage artistic submissions as a contest I am willing to offer my submissions and encourage others to do the same. The spec on the wiki is draft waiting your review and comment and as I stated earlier to your list, folks will need direction on how to post submissions. The desired tool is your call. For the members who participate on this team may I remind you that your actions are to always reflect the Ubuntu code of conduct and to represent the community in the best possible manner. Anything less is unacceptable. Best regards, John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/LibreOffice---An-Open-Apology-tp30222036p30222036.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums) Mike -- Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:16:09 -0700 Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com wrote: I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums) Mike -- Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com I have to say this is one of the easiest to read re-designs I have seen now. Thanks for that. Unfortunately, and maybe it is a bad perception on my part, I see at least three separate ways links are treated there. The main page treats links by changing the color when I hover over them. The banner leaves the white link white, with no change as I hover. The links under the banner are split. Todays posts and FAQ underline the link, the next three actually use an orange highlight with reverse white text, I think. Is this intended? - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4YojAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAmw4H/iSYslmTcpjy0Zc2MPM4gisl fEFQi5Mj+qqTpGpgUhlj2qTgO7cBCorDUr+fgNJfsfWXOxQlT7njWg7ePgmEJCzY wrt3PCwfbxUK+IU5KYFFoheitXZ48Yef5PKKpQbtpuczWbbJoAGh2QkZ9NTBB0FC Qnx11v7o5dGjNvewNDYfC90O3K374wHBBJr6xCU53V4ooWrZPIJxhIY6ueD5L7FY X2rhOD6lrSSj851bJPMjO40Qf/zHJ+MqrbxJh2VjxAz076Hq/VI2+5o3Lz/HOhMr x3/fBahMnQfV1QwtFfiKSxNWMzPi5zVr+IQngB37UA6Ndsb6OD5wK7zJXvMx5MU= =Q+G+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
I have trying to fix that but have not been able to fine the rights settings yet. It is possible it is a bug in the forums software. Mike On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:16:09 -0700 Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com wrote: I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums) Mike -- Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com I have to say this is one of the easiest to read re-designs I have seen now. Thanks for that. Unfortunately, and maybe it is a bad perception on my part, I see at least three separate ways links are treated there. The main page treats links by changing the color when I hover over them. The banner leaves the white link white, with no change as I hover. The links under the banner are split. Todays posts and FAQ underline the link, the next three actually use an orange highlight with reverse white text, I think. Is this intended? - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4YojAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAmw4H/iSYslmTcpjy0Zc2MPM4gisl fEFQi5Mj+qqTpGpgUhlj2qTgO7cBCorDUr+fgNJfsfWXOxQlT7njWg7ePgmEJCzY wrt3PCwfbxUK+IU5KYFFoheitXZ48Yef5PKKpQbtpuczWbbJoAGh2QkZ9NTBB0FC Qnx11v7o5dGjNvewNDYfC90O3K374wHBBJr6xCU53V4ooWrZPIJxhIY6ueD5L7FY X2rhOD6lrSSj851bJPMjO40Qf/zHJ+MqrbxJh2VjxAz076Hq/VI2+5o3Lz/HOhMr x3/fBahMnQfV1QwtFfiKSxNWMzPi5zVr+IQngB37UA6Ndsb6OD5wK7zJXvMx5MU= =Q+G+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums) I think it's better to remove speech dots from the no new posts icon. An icon with a question mark also seems an odd icon for a category. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice - An Open Apology
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:52 -0800, j_baer wrote: For the members who participate on this team may I remind you that your actions are to always reflect the Ubuntu code of conduct and to represent the community in the best possible manner. Hi John, Lets *not* blow things out of proportion here. Nothing in the Code of Conduct mentions that nobody is entitled to have an opinion. Kindly try to attend the meeting Martin mention in the previous thread Nucleous Meeting, do doodle your available time http://doodle.com/fwkh25nm6p93tsip so that we can all get on the same page and move forward. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
The question mark was the best I could find. Mike On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Сергей wrote: I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums) I think it's better to remove speech dots from the no new posts icon. An icon with a question mark also seems an odd icon for a category. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
2010/11/15 Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com The question mark was the best I could find. Maybe an aquarium (like at http://start.ubuntu.com/10.10/Google/, community link) would be better? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance
Mike wrote on Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:32:05 -0700 Message-ID: 0921a587-d136-4c00-9e6e-b4efdc04a...@ubuntu.com I have trying to fix that but have not been able to fine the rights settings yet. It is possible it is a bug in the forums software. Mike Hi Mike, can it be because the first three have this class: li class=selected style=padding:0px and the other three have this one: li class=popupmenu Woutervddn -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice - An Open Apology
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:52 -0800, j_baer wrote: The desire of the Ubuntu community is to assist the LibreOffice community as best as we can. The negative comments expressed by some do not represent the community at large. John, I really don't think it's appropriate for you to write an apology for someone else or to speak for the entire team or even the whole community. Furthermore, I don't think it's fair to take issue without clearly defining what it is you have a problem with, enabling others to make sense of this and to judge for themselves. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice - An Open Apology
Hi John, :-) Thank you for the very kind words. And great thanks, too, for the support you've offered to TDF and the LibreOffice project. :-) As regards any apology, well, anyone who puts forward a controversial idea in an Open Source project had better be thick-skinned, and had better be ready with good arguments! I know how these things go, so no worries there. ;-) Also, in the LibO list thread, Thorsten did examine both sides of the issue, so I can't fault his constructive discussion, even though I'm aware that - on balance - he doesn't support the idea I'm advancing. I'm not sure what the ultimate decision will be regarding a logo/mascot contest. But I am certain that it was a very positive thing to have established contact between TDF/LibO and Ubuntu - both for LibO and as a general initiative between FOSS projects. I'm sure this is just the start of what will turn out to be a longstanding communication and collaboration. So a big thanks to you, John, for having been so receptive, positive and proactively helpful about it. Meanwhile, for the moment, seeing the other messages incoming to this thread, I think we'd better both just duck and run, mate! :-D See you soon in another thread! ;-) David Nelson The light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness shall not overcome it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Having Fun with Pictograms
Hey Everyone, The Artwork Team logo submissions are looking very good! Thank you for your submissions but there is time for more. Borrowing from the Design Team I added these. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1025/5180350536_8bbf5f0f2c_o.jpg Artwork Team Pictogram Logo 1 and http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1002/5180350562_0d7145d23d_o.jpg Artwork Team Pictogram Logo 2 Don't be afraid to try something new! Cheers, John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Having-Fun-with-Pictograms-tp30224966p30224966.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Welcome Matthieu
Please welcome Matthieu James as a new member to the Artwork Team. Matthieu is the artist behind the popular Faenza Icons and the Equinox Ubuntu Themes. Matthieu, it's a great team and a great community. Welcome! John -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Welcome-Matthieu-tp30225683p30225683.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
