Re: [ubuntu-art] Lubuntu Spec
De: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com À: John Baer bae...@gmail.com Cc: mariobehl...@googlemail.com, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.com Sujet: Re: Lubuntu Spec Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:05:00 +0100 About the pallet, do you check with Canonical if others colors are acceptable for a derivated of Ubuntu ? Last time we check, the pallet was limited, and we had to stay with this one (which IMO, is nice). Aside of not using the orange and aubergine in your logo or other prominent places, and avoiding a theme too similar to Ambiance/Radiance, I see absolutely not reason to assume limitations from tat side. You need also to consider that, if people propose a very different color for the wallpaper, we will not accept it, unless they propose an entire theme which match this submission. So, no need to spend time in submissions we will reject for sure. This statement is very disappointing. It implies wallpaper submissions would always be monochromatic. A choice of color is not a good starting point for your visual identity. Even less so if it's very close to what several other offerings in your realm are using. The main goal of your wallpaper and theme should be to further, or to at least be in line with, the goals and success of your project. This is graphic design, it's communication, it's your identity. No matter if you are conscious about it or not, especially the wallpaper has a message to tell. If you don't take control of it, this message will be: we don't care or we have no clue or we are insecure and chose something safe and boring. So what is the intended message of the wallpaper (and theme)? What do you want to say about Lubuntu? What is the emotion you want to provoke in your audience? The palette is a result, not a start. About the spec : - Introduction We have specific targets for our users, see our wiki page : Lubuntu is targeted at normal PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware. Such users may not know how to use command line tools, and in most cases they just don't have enough resources for all the bells and whistles of the full-featured mainstream distributions. Just like Xubuntu. What sets you apart? - Inspiration: Well, our strategy for artwork is more practical : * We want a nice artwork ... * ... with no big requirement * ... which render good and fast That's not practical, that is not taking control, it's wallowing in arbitrariness. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Nice article on making nicer screencasts
Smashing Magazine has an excellent article (as usual) called Most Common Mistakes in Screencasting: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/12/09/most-common-mistakes-in-screencasting/ Probably as good a time as any to kick off a discussion about screencasts in Ubuntu. I find they are generally pretty low quality. They work, and it's awesome that people make them in the first place, but they aren't as nice to watch (or, therefore, as useful) as they could be. There are probably many ways we can help people improve them. Doing so could bring wonderful things for Ubuntu's brand and user experience. Any opinions on what the problems are and how / if they can be solved? Are there any current efforts in that territory? [large heap of babbling was here; removed because I'm interested in what others think!] :) Dylan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:29:24 -0500 John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:27 +0530, Vishnoo wrote: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being international-friendly, let's go with option 2 : 1 February 2010 Or if we want to keep it short : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb No mixed order, please. I'm not opposed to 1 February 2010. OK, updated the dates. While checking out the dates, I noticed that the due date for Xubuntu,Edubuntu,Lubuntu wallpaper is specked as *25* Mar 2011. The final date for Natty User Interface Freeze is March *24* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule While the derivatives do have freedom to be a bit flexible with the freeze dates, setting a due date which falls /after/ the freeze is a bit weird. IMO, we should close submissions 10-15days before the UI freeze. Closing alteast 10 days before freeze would give, 7 days for judging and approvals, atleast 3 days for contacting the respective artists and any final tweaks. -- Cheers, Vish Vish, Thank you for adding some love to the Wiki. Ten days sounds good to me but on a different thread to this list the Lubuntu community expressed their desire to close submissions on the March 17th. Does that work? If agreed, let's make them all the same. Best regards, John To be honest, Xubuntu does not find March 17th satisfactory. This does not allow us time to choose the wallpaper, work with the artist for any changes we might want, and get it submitted to Natty before the freeze. We will require the cutoff to be March 14th or earlier. - -- Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Interim Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNAUHtAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAgI0H/0fPQkPMj1wSed0Z6cdqCLSm H7HcbsbnN8F/8GqPVBqgXnAbjIJ6CwL265l+cQ9ArOJhxP7JgzaEfxFLhQxHpI+3 rUNsry/ZfhYue24I4Sro5QCgAsJ+6ozQwFX1k2UxU1ipsEtkmGyGza8/57QiS/yM NK6aERpt6Ff2g4aGgz2AweGGO1pWR3AauCyjGC/tInJ1OfFuqGbfIJ6emEMa3aLE zHmvE4Kd/jVqMFl0x5Z4hNjzHGKiCHiuafdtHgrFl3gBhRSk8Z9P5P+IrQMalHAf 2MpdEYkbdcFbBRrw4oP2G25Gy9dyYywS+/n4+Doy3Fq9m09pOst/lcxTMmofBJQ= =Jeit -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] remove me
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Re: [ubuntu-art] remove me
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Re: [ubuntu-art] remove me
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 22:12 +, the.adventure.ish...@gmail.com wrote: Remove me Everyone must remove themselves using the list at the bottom of every email. for example: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Martin, -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Nice article on making nicer screencasts
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: [large heap of babbling was here; removed because I'm interested in what others think!] :) Dylan Dylan, Excellent topic. A place I have frequented is http://screencasters.heathenx.org/ For me the biggest challenge has been the tool. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re ady for Xubuntu Wallpaper Submissions
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:45:44 +0100 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper : The Xubuntu palette has been completely blue, so far. A monotone color scheme as such sends a message of uniformity, stableness and eventually even shyness, indecision and paranoia. It does not speak of energy, movement, diversity ... The wallpaper will have to go well with the panels, windows and icons (as far as they appear on the desktop). Its use of color has to support the impression of lightness and performance, without becoming a distraction in day-to-day use. Aside of this, there is no predefined, required palette for the wallpaper. Hi everyone, I'm currently working on the theme for Natty (links and some info to be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Natty). Thorsten and Charlie pointed me to the ongoing discussion here, so I thought I'd add my 2cents. First I think that it would be helpful to have some palette, even if only for inspiration. I have worked on the palette for greybird for some time, I wouldn't say it's written in stone, but I don't think I'd like to change it drastically. Up to now I've only gotten very little specific feedback, so that would be one thing I'd appreciate. Please be as specific as you can be, stuff like it looks dull isn't very helpful/constructive criticism :) The icon theme I'm currently working on (Faenza-xfce) is just a contender for the well-tested elementary theme we had for the last few cycles. So maybe don't focus too much on a specific icon theme when designing the wallpaper (or at least take into account that it could be either of the two themes). Whilst I agree that the wallpaper doesn't have to be blue, I'd like to mention that currently the theme (greybird) - even though mainly grey-ish and more conservative-looking than the previous bluebird - has blue highlights. That's it for now from my side for now, Simon PS: Here's a screenshot for the picture I currently use as a backdrop, just to show that the theme works very well with a not-totally-blue wallpaper :) http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/2380/the_beach.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:44:29 -0500 John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.comwrote: To be honest, Xubuntu does not find March 17th satisfactory. This does not allow us time to choose the wallpaper, work with the artist for any changes we might want, and get it submitted to Natty before the freeze. We will require the cutoff to be March 14th or earlier. Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Interim Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] Charlie, I am thinking the 10th but it can be the date of your choosing. John The 10th would be great! Let's do that if we can. Thank you very much for helping so much! - -- Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Interim Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNAYMtAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbA++kIAIUOYEpN1b6rormTNsNzEuBw TYfsyvkbVTn0U1uKlVR0Dy+CMX26vgHVYZhcxzJP6c+mUWNlkTzgHANAhhMGAizC kkmrWb9iqieACT66EHdQ2oGLtIuGK6xcvgFJVLg8pp6S+eQYtUXOO0eoifzpqSiw gcZVa9PzHUtIfS7nfiQo8Ed/xOvPVfFURFnu//XGbuZIVmxVoC25BMKmWYc1zpQM 0RP+45bCU4wH/xPOKXUZnfobAULN08XQa2Z/VveK+M+Aa7sYHcoJYe3aAA7Npq3C 1zG/xpshM0VIUFlhyZFHrt8dOyV7MLkhqCNbhU6r2eCzHVLVFhQufSbMATfvLFg= =yZsS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re ady for Xubuntu Wallpaper Submissions
2010/12/9 Simon Steinbeiß simon.steinbe...@elfenbeinturm.at On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:45:44 +0100 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper : The Xubuntu palette has been completely blue, so far. A monotone color scheme as such sends a message of uniformity, stableness and eventually even shyness, indecision and paranoia. It does not speak of energy, movement, diversity ... The wallpaper will have to go well with the panels, windows and icons (as far as they appear on the desktop). Its use of color has to support the impression of lightness and performance, without becoming a distraction in day-to-day use. Aside of this, there is no predefined, required palette for the wallpaper. Hi everyone, I'm currently working on the theme for Natty (links and some info to be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Natty). Thorsten and Charlie pointed me to the ongoing discussion here, so I thought I'd add my 2cents. First I think that it would be helpful to have some palette, even if only for inspiration. I have worked on the palette for greybird for some time, I wouldn't say it's written in stone, but I don't think I'd like to change it drastically. Up to now I've only gotten very little specific feedback, so that would be one thing I'd appreciate. Please be as specific as you can be, stuff like it looks dull isn't very helpful/constructive criticism :) The icon theme I'm currently working on (Faenza-xfce) is just a contender for the well-tested elementary theme we had for the last few cycles. So maybe don't focus too much on a specific icon theme when designing the wallpaper (or at least take into account that it could be either of the two themes). Whilst I agree that the wallpaper doesn't have to be blue, I'd like to mention that currently the theme (greybird) - even though mainly grey-ish and more conservative-looking than the previous bluebird - has blue highlights. That's it for now from my side for now, Simon PS: Here's a screenshot for the picture I currently use as a backdrop, just to show that the theme works very well with a not-totally-blue wallpaper :) http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/2380/the_beach.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Simon, Posting your wallpaper image to DeGraeve results in the following palette. http://www.degraeve.com/color-palette/index.php?q=http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/Decbb444/02380_thebeach_1280x1024.jpg,0e4064ceaf69bf9e5acbccb85a7f96,005cb9ffdf95f7cd77fdfdfb6ba7ce Nice! John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Make announcement of submissions mandatory
Hi, While we are getting new submissions for each task, there seems to be less activity here regarding the submissions and it is not clear that there were submissions even. If anyone had to check the new submissions they will have to keep checking the respective flickr groups *daily* for submissions. Not everyone would be doing that. Only the people running the tasks would look into it fairly regularly. We need to get more eyes on the submissions. More people expressing their views/opinions/critique on the submissions. Announcements will also help get a review earlier than the deadline and time for tweaks. Ensuing discussion might create new/better ideas. Let's make announcement of the submissions mandatory and make sure it is mentioned in every task page. Now the question would be, what if someone has not announced and the submission is too good to miss out? If someone finds a submission sitting in the collection pool un-announced for more than a week, just announce it for the submitter. (not necessary that the submitter needs to be the one who announces.) And, let's make sure the submitter is notified that their submission is being discussed here. Would we still miss a few submissions? Maybe. If no one is excited enough about the submission to make the proxy-announcement either, would it have been selected? Maybe not. But, skipping out on a few submissions seems a trade off to growing and building a larger community. What do others think? Shall we make this mandatory? -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
