Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork

2011-02-07 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:39:36 +
jjungschla...@gmail.com wrote:

 For most of my costumers it would be quite handy if the cover wouldn't have 
 to many changes if I give them Ubuntu dvd's but concider the following, every 
 MS windows version has a bit different color release colour choices can 
 change in Ubuntu.

this would be a better argument if they released a new version more
often than the 5-7 year cycle!

 Really like the purple pink black color now.
 People are probaly going to work more with CLI as an opposite from what the 
 past show people are use GUI's more often or they gonna wank about great an 
 big effects like os x, beceuse Ubuntu aims not only high class computers such 
 as for gaming, video/graphic editing that wouldn't happen to our system.
 
 Anyway good luck keep the color schedule dynamic if you really want it to be 
 around for a while. 
 Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry®-toestel
 
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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
 
 Ofcourse, I will keep developing Ubuntu DVD covers in the future, but
 I just wanted to make something that will last for a longer time,
 without having to change the DVD cover every six months. Why not
 having one DVD cover, and just changing the DVD labels when new
 version is out. :)

I really like the idea of a universal cover. It could change for each
LTS release, which is two years.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2011-01-16 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:06:33 -0600
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Charlie Kravetz 
 c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:
 
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  On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:40:58 -0600
  Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 16:58 -0800, j_baer wrote:
 Charlie  Vish,

 This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of these
  meet
 your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.

   *
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_IconSubmissions
   
Hey,
   
  
   Hey Vish!
  
  
We discussed this a couple of days ago, and most of the team seemed to
like the direction of leogg's 4, 5 and 1.
   
  
   Glad you like them. :)
  
  
One concern was how recognizable the 14px icon would be.
   
   
   As John says, it's quite a challenge to make 14px icons. I usually design
   alternative icons for small sizes, and use the more detailed icons for
   bigger sizes.
  
  
So, maybe refining those icons further will help narrowing down the
final choice.
   
  
   I've updated the wiki. Tell me what you think about it.
  
   Cheers,
  
  
[we mainly need the 64px and 14px, the 192px is a bonus]
   
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  I really like number 5, but I wonder if the A can be removed from
  1?
 
 
 Yes, it can be done. See http://imagebin.ca/view/BD27lGe.html
 

I need to be able to use the icons. Can you break them out of the png
file and into individual icons for us to use now? I need the set in 5
as they are and the set in 1 without the A in them. If this is
something I can do, let me know how to do it, please.

We really appreciate your work on these. They are great, but I need to
put them where all the people will see them now.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2011-01-16 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:00:32 -0600
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com
  wrote:
 
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  On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:06:33 -0600
  Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Charlie Kravetz 
   c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:
  
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:40:58 -0600
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 16:58 -0800, j_baer wrote:
   Charlie  Vish,
  
   This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of
  these
meet
   your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.
  
 *
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_IconSubmissions
 
  Hey,
 

 Hey Vish!


  We discussed this a couple of days ago, and most of the team seemed
  to
  like the direction of leogg's 4, 5 and 1.
 

 Glad you like them. :)


  One concern was how recognizable the 14px icon would be.
 
 
 As John says, it's quite a challenge to make 14px icons. I usually
  design
 alternative icons for small sizes, and use the more detailed icons
  for
 bigger sizes.


  So, maybe refining those icons further will help narrowing down the
  final choice.
 

 I've updated the wiki. Tell me what you think about it.

 Cheers,


  [we mainly need the 64px and 14px, the 192px is a bonus]
 
  --
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I really like number 5, but I wonder if the A can be removed from
1?
   
   
   Yes, it can be done. See http://imagebin.ca/view/BD27lGe.html
  
 
  I need to be able to use the icons. Can you break them out of the png
  file and into individual icons for us to use now? I need the set in 5
  as they are and the set in 1 without the A in them. If this is
  something I can do, let me know how to do it, please.
 
 
 Done.
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~leogg/artwork/Bugsquad_A_Team.tar.gz
 

Thank you again. You fast response is terrific. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wanted: Artwork for Ubuntu Software Center department screens

2010-12-20 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:25:54 +0300
Сергей shnat...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  Well there is the next logical idea, to make the backgrounds look like the
  website backgrounds.
 
 I don't like it. Software center should look as native and desktop-ish as
 possible. I like the way it's done in Unity Maverick, but I also understand
 that it's not an option for Natty. So if I were the one to decide I'd look
 at Unity and make Software Center as similar as possible. On the other hand,
 Unity's look for Natty is not yet finalized and it's too early to copy it
 yet.
 
 Respectfully,
 --
 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff

If it looks like unity/Ubuntu, what about the rest of the derivatives
that also include it? Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu all use this Software
Center. Would it not be better to be a little bit neutral?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?

2010-12-14 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:34:32 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will
 appear on Planet Ubuntu:
 http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/
 
 (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in
 that matter)
 
 
 I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other
 free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members
 of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography.
 
 Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular
 community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate
 place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity.
 If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still
 collected in one place and we know about it.
 
 Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that
 convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle
 to sell this on.
 
 

Thank you for the blog entry. It is very difficult to generate
interest in these derivatives. However, for some of us, it is at least
as important as Ubuntu wallpaper. I really appreciate your help and
interest.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-09 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:29:24 -0500
John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
   On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:27 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
  
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010
   
Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb
  
   No mixed order, please.
  
   I'm not opposed to 1 February 2010.
 
  OK, updated the dates.
 
  While checking out the dates, I noticed that the due date for
  Xubuntu,Edubuntu,Lubuntu wallpaper is specked as *25* Mar 2011.
 
  The final date for Natty User Interface Freeze is March *24*
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
 
  While the derivatives do have freedom to be a bit flexible with the
  freeze dates, setting a due date which falls /after/ the freeze is a bit
  weird.
 
  IMO, we should close submissions 10-15days before the UI freeze.
  Closing alteast 10 days before freeze would give, 7 days for judging and
  approvals, atleast 3 days for contacting the respective artists and any
  final tweaks.
 
  --
  Cheers,
  Vish
 
 
 Vish,
 
 Thank you for adding some love to the Wiki. Ten days sounds good to me but
 on a different thread to this list the Lubuntu community expressed their
 desire to close submissions on the March 17th. Does that work? If agreed,
 let's make them all the same.
 
 Best regards,
 
 John

To be honest, Xubuntu does not find March 17th satisfactory. This does
not allow us time to choose the wallpaper, work with the artist for any
changes we might want, and get it submitted to Natty before the freeze.
We will require the cutoff to be March 14th or earlier. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-09 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:44:29 -0500
John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Charlie Kravetz
 c...@teamcharliesangels.comwrote:
 
 
  To be honest, Xubuntu does not find March 17th satisfactory. This does
  not allow us time to choose the wallpaper, work with the artist for any
  changes we might want, and get it submitted to Natty before the freeze.
  We will require the cutoff to be March 14th or earlier.
 
  Charlie Kravetz
  Xubuntu Interim Project Lead
  Linux Registered User Number 425914  [http://counter.li.org/]
  Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
 
 
 
 Charlie,
 
 I am thinking the 10th but it can be the date of your choosing.
 
 John

The 10th would be great! Let's do that if we can. 

Thank you very much for helping so much!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:43:32 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:52 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
  
  Why dont we forget the ISO naming and just stick with something that is
  Human-readable? ;)
 
 The from big to small order is really not difficult to remember and
 handle. But currently I have my head elsewhere.
 
 
  Instead, for months we use Jan/Feb/Mar.../Dec . And yrs/dates are
  numerical /DD?
 
 Numerical dates are short and make calculations more obvious (or am I
 alone in having to translate month names to numbers in my mind first,
 where I don't have a direct mapping for all months, so need to count
 steps in some cases?)
 
 And then we would have the question which format using names, exactly?
 
 

I too count out the months when the name appears. Whether numbers or
names are used, the format should be standard. I can write as in the
U.S. Military 12 December 2010; as in American writing December 12,
2010; as in Europe and the rest of the world 2010 December 12. Then
there are the abbreviations of the months, two instead of four digit
years, etc. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2010-11-28 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:40:58 -0600
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 16:58 -0800, j_baer wrote:
   Charlie  Vish,
  
   This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of these meet
   your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.
  
 *  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_IconSubmissions
 
  Hey,
 
 
 Hey Vish!
 
 
  We discussed this a couple of days ago, and most of the team seemed to
  like the direction of leogg's 4, 5 and 1.
 
 
 Glad you like them. :)
 
 
  One concern was how recognizable the 14px icon would be.
 
 
 As John says, it's quite a challenge to make 14px icons. I usually design
 alternative icons for small sizes, and use the more detailed icons for
 bigger sizes.
 
 
  So, maybe refining those icons further will help narrowing down the
  final choice.
 
 
 I've updated the wiki. Tell me what you think about it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
  [we mainly need the 64px and 14px, the 192px is a bonus]
 
  --
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I really like number 5, but I wonder if the A can be removed from
1? 

Vish, what about using 5 for the 64x64 and 1 for the 14x14 ? 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2010-11-28 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:58:54 -0800 (PST)
j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Charlie  Vish,
 
 This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of these meet
 your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.
 
   *  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_Icon Submissions 
 
 Best regards,
 
 John

Once again, I am in the position to be able to say THANK YOU to
everyone involved in this logo. I am not always timely here, I guess.
But I really appreciate what you people are doing! 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-24 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:11:08 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 10:34 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
  Charlie can you look over the spec that john has written up/ update us
  with what happened at the meeting? 
 
 I criticized the spec for not being based on any kind of mission
 statement or strategy. Charlie put down an action item for himself to
 contact you, Saleel, and me about taking care of that.
 
 I wouldn't mind to handle that right here, on this list.
 
 

Okay, let's do it that way then.

Firstly, thank you to everybody for the assistance with this
specification. It is great to see the involvement.

 Xubuntu would like to change the perception of only being for old and
 slow computers to being excellent for any hardware. According to the
 Xubuntu Strategy Document, it should perform well on any hardware. It
 should require and use fewer resources than Ubuntu, and is built with
 the Xfce desktop environment. Traditionally, it has used shades of
 blue and the Xfce mascot, a mouse, to represent itself. 

As I have explained to Thorsten and Saleel, I am not artistically
inclined. I know the concept I would like to present, but don't know
how to describe it as artwork. I tried to generate interest for
Maverick, it was not a good approach. 

There were questions and comments about the license. It seems the
wording is too ambiguous. One of the questions raised was what Creative
Commons license must submissions adhere to?. Can we define that better?

 I like the pallette presented in the spec. A point to keep in mind is
 that Xubuntu normally has used the same scene for the wallpaper and
 the GDM background. I am hoping this team knows the dimensions and
 wording better than I do. 

I do not believe the wording : The desired result will be an image
which embraces the light Ubuntu design concept and displays well on a
variety of hardware environments. applies to Xubuntu. While the
light Ubuntu design concept is great for Ubuntu, I don't know how to
apply it to this project. We would prefer a more defined image, instead
of the concept image. Although, the image does have to display well on
new and old hardware. Xubuntu is still used on CRT monitors in some
areas of the world. 

Okay, I probably raised more questions than answers with this, so I
will stop and let those with questions ask. I will attempt to answer as
best I can. 

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-24 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:38:16 -0500
Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 
  Ok, so we want to express high performance. But not performance by brute
  force, no big machines, but rather by making the most of what you get,
  by being small and light. Associations:
  * Swallow
  * Dart
  * Ultra-light planes and gliders
 
  Some of these could be abstracted to shapes and colors.

This is where I get lost. I do not understand how you associate these
things to the artwork, so I have to leave this part up to the artists
who do know better than myself.

 
 I can see efficient performance working as a flavor.
 I have as I mentioned at uds particularly favoring the the idea of a bird/
 flight. Flight tends to imply agility/speed, freedom, seeing things for a
 not a commonly seen perspective. These are all powerful in the imagery they
 produce, at least in my mind. You say the next step is abstracting colors
 and shapes. Shapes I can see how, but how do we know which colors to
 restrict? How do we judge the value tritone color sheme vs. a monotone one ,
 for example. Sorry if this is super obvious, but I'm still learning.
 
 
 Why only by-sa? doesnt cc-by work as well? is the clause sharealike all that
 important? or are you saying that by-sa the most restrictive license the
 artist can put on it, and still have it be acceptable?
 
 
 @Charlie
 A point to keep in mind is that Xubuntu normally has used the same scene
 for the wallpaper and the GDM
 
 I cant see that adding any restrictions to what we can and cannot accept.
 
 @Charlie
 Currently the color pallete is pretty limited to tones of 1 color, would the
 inclusion of other colors be a problem?

I don't know the answer. Traditionally, Xubuntu has used shades of
blue. It is easier for me to say we do not want reds, oranges, browns,
than to say other colors are okay. I think as long as they are not
dominant, we could mix the other colors in. 

 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-24 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:07:08 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 15:38 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
  You say the next step is abstracting colors and shapes. Shapes I can
  see how, but how do we know which colors to restrict? How do we judge
  the value tritone color sheme vs. a monotone one , for example. Sorry
  if this is super obvious, but I'm still learning.
 
 Actually, I wouldn't rule out literal takes on these subject matters.
 
 A monotone color scheme as such sends a message, too. One of uniformity,
 stableness, eventually even shyness, indecision and paranoia. Most
 likely not energy, movement, diversity ...
 
 I'm still learning, too.
 

I do not want to send out the indecision and paranoia. Let's aim for
energy, diversity, excitement! As one user suggested, Xubuntu should be
sharp, crisp, smooth but exciting. 
 
  Why only by-sa? doesnt cc-by work as well?
 
 Because a single option does not make people pause and wonder what to
 choose ;)
 
 The ShareAlike aspect is just nice to have for keeping derivatives in
 the family, more GPL-like.
 
 
  @Charlie
  Currently the color pallete is pretty limited to tones of 1 color,
  would the
  inclusion of other colors be a problem?
 
 To not include other colors would be a problem. For wallpapers, I would
 even just define the colors given by panel and windows and require that
 wallpapers have to go well with them (icons might play a role in this
 considerations, too).
 
Since the windows and background and panels in Xfce can all be themed
separately, this complicates it. Even when using the default Albatross
theme in Lucid 10.04, the window borders and panels were black, but the
window backgrounds were very light, since that is more difficult to
change from the Xfce defaults and requires extensive gtk theme changes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-24 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:53:46 -0500
John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 This discussion is very exciting and the points being raised are spot on -
 but somehow the spec needs to reflect the desire of the community and the
 advice of this team.
 
 Thorsten - Saleel - Charlie?  Will you update the spec?
 
 Saleel, I would like to make you an admin of the Xubuntu Natty Wallpaper
 flickr group. This means monitoring submissions and making sure questions
 are responded to. Will you help with this?
 
 Best regards,
 
 John

It would only be right to give you a big thank you for getting this
started for me. Your original spec gives an excellent starting place
for someone with so little knowledge about how to do all this. 

Thank you very much.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-17 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 03:21:49 -0500
Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay I thought I could put this together, but clearly I was wrong. I need
 some help. After reading John's post Adding a Task to the Project Board. I
 am asking for feedback on the following:
 
 Xubuntu is lightweight, and focuses on a more traditional desktop
 experience. It uses blues as the color scheme (also a traditional color).
 (#FFF,#203b66,#2c5aa0)
 
 The traditional desktop experience is what will pick up more users for
 xubuntu as ubuntu moves into unity and gnome moves into shell. SO our
 wallpaper should reflect this by following some older traditions of ubuntu.
 Traditions like featuring the animal in the wallpaper. The plus is that we
 tend to get a bunch of animal wallpapers anyways, and this would just be
 about getting the correct composition/color sheme for consideration. The
 negative is that people tend to focus a lot on the animal, and abandon any
 sense of taste.
 
 So what should I do?
 
 

Xubuntu is holding a community meeting 2010-11-18 at 19:00 UTC in
#ubuntu-meeting. We can discuss this with the community then and give
you a better idea of what is wanted. 

Thanks for helping with this.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-17 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:56:25 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 23:34 +0300, Сергей wrote:
 
  I've just posted a poll idea to OMG! Ubuntu!, let's wait and see if
  people
  still want animal wallpapers.
 
 
 If you would try to create a wallpaper based on what people want, I'm
 worried you might end up with :
 a calm and neutral abstract graphic,
 that shows an exciting landscape,
 a motorcycle just for Iain,
 with cute babies and bunnies,
 a manga babe,
 and that is politically correct
 ;)
 
 
 The default artwork of a distribution should be about how that project
 wants to be perceived. The preferences of the audience comes into play
 only in an indirect way. Especially for a wallpaper, something people
 like to change, perhaps just for the sake of changing it.
 
 

I agree. The wallpaper is normally decided by the Xubuntu Team. I think
trying to decide based on the whim of Ubuntu users is going to be a
fail. There are only a 60-100 thousand Xubuntu users out of the
millions of Ubuntu users counted. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance

2010-11-15 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:16:09 -0700
Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made 
 some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums)
 
 Mike
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I have to say this is one of the easiest to read re-designs I have seen
now. Thanks for that.

Unfortunately, and maybe it is a bad perception on my part, I see at
least three separate ways links are treated there. The main page treats
links by changing the color when I hover over them. The banner leaves
the white link white, with no change as I hover. The links under the
banner are split. Todays posts and FAQ underline the link, the next
three actually use an orange highlight with reverse white text, I think.

Is this intended?

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[ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-10 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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I have tasked to get a icon for a new team being set up by the
Ubuntu-bugsquad mentoring program. The team will be called the
bugsquad-mentor-teamA . This team will be set up to test a new concept
in mentoring bugsquad applicants. This will be a three-month test. If
the test proves beneficial to the bugsquad, more teams will be created.

I believe this should be a logo, that
can be used by this team specifically, to show a relationship between a
mentor and a mentee. It also will need the A on it to designate that
this is team A. This logo will be used on the launchpad team page and
bugsqad wiki pages.

Can you help me with this? Do you need more information? (by the way, I
am not an artist, but only the person that seems to know where to go
for help).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance

2010-11-08 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:23:50 -0700
Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 I made a lot of changes on the forums this weekend. Please let me know what 
 you think?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
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 mike.basin...@ubuntu.com
 

- From a user with visual impairments, can't links be made a different
color than the heading and text? Trying to determine what is actually a
link means at least hovering over every item in White text. This makes
it much harder to use the page.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase Theme

2010-11-05 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:06:45 -0400
Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote:

  For Topic: Could it be included in the showcase? Or run as a firt-boot
  intro or something?
 
  I believe that the descision was made at uds that the freeculture showcase
 was about great art, and not about ubuntu specifically. Iain' s idea of
 using light as a theme is great in principle. However it may be prone to
 once again receiving ubuntu specific artwork?
 

+1

The idea was to receive any great artwork, not necessarily aimed at
Ubuntu, since any derivative should be able to also use the art sent
in. Limiting it to light limits who will use it.

For my part, I would prefer it be more Xubuntu oriented, but that would
not be right either.

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