Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Cory K.]

spg76 wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Cory K.  wrote:
>   
>> @Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into
>> account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level.
>> 
>
>
> OK.
> I'm testing the icons with the clock applet to see how they look.
> Anyone knows what else can I use to test them? I mean, what other
> applications use them?
>   

I'm unsure but I can look into it soon.

>> Any idea of when the final "new" glyphs and such will be done? I know
>> mac_v wants to use them in places. They also have to be used on a few of
>> Daniel's icons.
>> 
>
>
> Well, I made one version you can see at:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=document-new2.png
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=folder-new2.png
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mail-message-new.png
> And "in use" screenshots at:
> https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new1.png
> https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new2.png
> https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new3.png
> https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new4.png
>
> I was going to make another version with the plus sign only (see nr. 5 here
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=new_glyphs.png)
> but I don't like how it looks in the small sizes.
> If you don't like the first version I'll give another try.
>   

I think we can go with it for now. Try them out for a bit and refine
later if need be.

>> Can you get together a keyboard for use with "video-display" to use as a
>> new "computer"?
>>
>> 
>
> I made two versions of the computer icon and upload them to the wiki.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Devices
>   

Wow. I don't know which I like better. I'll let others chime in. :)

>> --The base "mime" icon--
>>
>> Danny King's concepts were nice but things like the torn edge detail got
>> lost quickly. A simple flat rectangle seems a bit boring. What else can
>> we come up with. Maybe someone can assemble some stuff from GNOME-Look
>> and places to compare what has been done. (please make it 1 image to
>> look at. not a archived set of images)
>> 
>
>
> If a have time, a play around with this and see if I come up with something
> useful.
>
>
>   
>> --Media-* icons--
>>
>> Can anyone finish out the set based on Olivers previous work?
>> 
>
>
> Again, if I have time I'll finish them.
> But a volunteer here would be really appreciated so we can finally wrap this
> up.
>   

No Problem.

>> @mac_v: What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have 
>> stalled a bit.
>> 
>
>
> I made a version for the wireless networks (not the connection animation)
> based on the Notify-OSD ones, just to use it on my system.
> Here's a couple of screenshots:
> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless.png
> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless1.png
>
>   

Hmm... Interesting. I still cant decide on this one. I think I'll create
a sub-page where we can focus on these and go over different designs.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[mac_v]

spg76 wrote:
> 
> I made two versions of the computer icon and upload them to the wiki.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Devices
> 

I feel the orange is too bright :(

Some other more pleasant color/shade would look nice.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[mac_v]

spg76 wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Cory K.  > wrote:
> 
> @Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into
> account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level.
> 
> 
> OK.
> I'm testing the icons with the clock applet to see how they look.
> Anyone knows what else can I use to test them? I mean, what other
> applications use them?
>  
> 

@ Sebastien:

Hi,
Since you were a bit concerned about editing the smaller sizes,
i'v edited the appointment-soon , only the 48,32,22px , how does it look?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[spg76]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Cory K.  wrote:

> @Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into
> account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level.


OK.
I'm testing the icons with the clock applet to see how they look.
Anyone knows what else can I use to test them? I mean, what other
applications use them?


>
> Any idea of when the final "new" glyphs and such will be done? I know
> mac_v wants to use them in places. They also have to be used on a few of
> Daniel's icons.


Well, I made one version you can see at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=document-new2.png
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=folder-new2.png
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mail-message-new.png
And "in use" screenshots at:
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new1.png
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new2.png
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new3.png
https://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/new4.png

I was going to make another version with the plus sign only (see nr. 5 here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=new_glyphs.png)
but I don't like how it looks in the small sizes.
If you don't like the first version I'll give another try.


>
> Can you get together a keyboard for use with "video-display" to use as a
> new "computer"?
>

I made two versions of the computer icon and upload them to the wiki.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Devices

--The base "mime" icon--
>
> Danny King's concepts were nice but things like the torn edge detail got
> lost quickly. A simple flat rectangle seems a bit boring. What else can
> we come up with. Maybe someone can assemble some stuff from GNOME-Look
> and places to compare what has been done. (please make it 1 image to
> look at. not a archived set of images)


If a have time, a play around with this and see if I come up with something
useful.


> --Media-* icons--
>
> Can anyone finish out the set based on Olivers previous work?


Again, if I have time I'll finish them.
But a volunteer here would be really appreciated so we can finally wrap this
up.

@mac_v: What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have
> stalled
> a bit.


I made a version for the wireless networks (not the connection animation)
based on the Notify-OSD ones, just to use it on my system.
Here's a couple of screenshots:
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless.png
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/wireless1.png

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Hafiz Hidzir]

Hi there, masters :D
I'm just recently joined this mailing-list, and found that the enviroment here 
is friendly and creative everywhere. I'm a 15 year-old teen from Malaysia, and 
I just think, that, can I attach a set of the desktop icons in JPG format, 
first so that if it not so good, it's easy to edit it back.

Thanks,
Hafiz :)





From: daniel planas armangue 
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:41:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

Here are the new mail set fix,

pd:
notify me if you find any bug


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[mac_v]

Cory K. wrote:

> 
> --Emblems--
>
> 
> Also the Emblems are needing some love.
> 
> mac_v has been working on these but I have a question. Where the emblems
> use real objects such as, a lock, I feel they should be as
> photo-realistic as the rest of the real icons in the set. Agreed?
> 

I have uploaded 2 emblems, default and readonly...
I'v tried to make the default fit with the dialogue icons.

Since no-one has decided the feel of the lock emblem,I'v uploaded my
present version...

Remaining emblems are:
Documents
Photos
System
Shared

Any takers?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Cory K.]

Andrew SB wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> Breathe will be in the repos for Karmic. We'll be trying to get it in
>> soon and we should be able to update more before Ubuntu feature freeze.
>> 
>
> Do you and Ken need any help on the packaging front?
>
> Feel free to contact me when / if you need someone to upload / sponsor.
>   

Speaking of, weren't we talking about you and the release manager position?

Would mean:

* Making uploads to the archive.
* Maintaining the PPA.
* Adding updates to GNOME-Look (ill give you the password to the
  account there)
* Maybe some minor release notes and uploading of updates graffix of
  the set.

Interested?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Andrew SB]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Breathe will be in the repos for Karmic. We'll be trying to get it in
> soon and we should be able to update more before Ubuntu feature freeze.

Do you and Ken need any help on the packaging front?

Feel free to contact me when / if you need someone to upload / sponsor.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Oliver Scholtz 1]

Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2009, 10:48 -0400 schrieb Cory K.:
> ... a system-search based on Oliver's
> submission (though I think the turquoise color needs serious help).
> 
> 
I hope somebody take the system-search-thematic again and makes some
better mod's from it. Or a new Set with the Loupes from Sebastian. 

> 
> Where has Oliver gone?

For the moment all my motivations has gone ... differents things in my
life got more importance. I don't think that they aren't fitting well
with Breathe-Set. Normaly they will be seen in smaller sizes and it's
looking nice, doesn't it?
Okay ... there are missing only 3 icons for completion. If I don't find
back with my motivation; Sebastian wouldn't have any problems to finish
them...

I am still observing ... all goes a good way. Will see when I *feel* for
a in-cooperation again.
But I am still thinking that all final icons needs a handish reparation
for be really perfect. Here I am quite good and even feel more fun ...

It's all at moment ...

Ahh ohh yes. I think that the Navi-Icons shouldn't haves this
light-reflection from 22 and above ... and they can be *a little bit
smaller*, too.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Cory K.]

mac_v wrote:
> Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled
>> a bit.
>>
>> 
> I hadnt worked on them , was waiting for you.
>   

I have been unsure on them as well.

> A few changes need to be made, the 50% i'll change to green and the 25%
> in yellow.[keeping in mind kwwii's concern that red should be sparingly
> used in the panel]
>   

Sounds fine.

> Also i'd say doing these icons doing in 128px is sufficient and adding
> them to to scalable folder is the best , i'v tried making them in
> different sizes but its never as good. the icons scale well so i'd
> prefer not to do smaller sizes

We have to see where they are used. And I prefer to create all the sizes
because of the future can be tricky. Larger sizes could be needed.

> also keep in mind that for the
> reconnection animation it needs another 33 icons!
>   

Correct. Maybe we take these all down for now and you put up thoughts on
the Discussions page as this needs further thought.

> Actually I would like to know your ETA for breathe, so that i could work
> around it. :P
>   

ETA as in what? Being done? That will be quite some time off. 1.0 will
be when we reach parity with the FreeDesktop spec. 2.0 will be parity
with the GNOME set. Beyond that, I haven't given much thought.

Breathe will be in the repos for Karmic. We'll be trying to get it in
soon and we should be able to update more before Ubuntu feature freeze.


As for the rest of your post all sounds fine. Just remember don't take
shortcuts. Put in the detail and style where you can and it makes sense. ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[mac_v]

Cory K. wrote:
 >
> @mac_v: Emotes are going along well. You have a ETA on the finished set?
> And note, while I like them I think at some point they will need a
> little something. Something just doesn't fit quite right. But they are
> 85% there.
> 

 I didnt pay much attention to the 128px , as i figured its never
used... just to remind you, *the scalable emotes in gnome are 48px*

 For the smaller sizes adding more shine/detail didnt make much
difference in the png output. So to keep it plain and easily viewable i
kept it simple and removed whatever extra stuff i did for them and
maintained the same for the 128px... but as you say its not fully there.

I have purposefully not added too much detail in each smiley, keeping in
mind not to get too glossy and that they should be very apart from each
other to be easily differentiable at a quick glance.

If you want i'll add details to the 128px just for completion?

Also *Michote* seems to be working on the Devil-grin. maybe he could do
the devil-sad too... Michote?

For anyone who wants to chip in,the remaining emotes are:
face-angel
face-crying
face-glasses
face-kiss
face-smirk
face-monkey [i'm not even going to try this one :P ]


@ *Michote* : it would be nice to know ahead what all emotes you plan to
do...


> Also the Emblems are needing some love. Make emblem-symbolic-link white
> (still use some black/gray gradient on it) and I'll upload it along with
> emblem-favorite (the 1st one), emblem-downloads (though I'm not thrilled
> with the globe) and emblem-synchronized.  emblem-important and
> emblem-unreadable have what looks to be more of a steeper bevel to them
> than the others. Correct that and I'll upload.
> 
I can remove the globe,but then it will look very similar to the go down
actions icon , so I think that it is essential to leave the globe to
make a quick difference.

I'll correct the unreadable and the important emblems and White/grey for
smybolic-link...

> 
> What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled
> a bit.
> 
I hadnt worked on them , was waiting for you.

A few changes need to be made, the 50% i'll change to green and the 25%
in yellow.[keeping in mind kwwii's concern that red should be sparingly
used in the panel]

Also i'd say doing these icons doing in 128px is sufficient and adding
them to to scalable folder is the best , i'v tried making them in
different sizes but its never as good. the icons scale well so i'd
prefer not to do smaller sizes also keep in mind that for the
reconnection animation it needs another 33 icons !

Actually I would like to know your ETA for breathe, so that i could work
around it. :P

cheers,
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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

[Cory K.]

So I'm going to apologize for this non-cohesive email ahead of time.
There's just alot of little junk to address. :P

I uploaded: appointment-soon (the 1st one) help-about
preferences-system-indexed preferences-desktop-screensaver video-display
stock_contact folder-remote (I'd like to create a new "connected" image.
that thing under the folder) and a system-search based on Oliver's
submission (though I think the turquoise color needs serious help).



Where has Oliver gone?


@mac_v: Emotes are going along well. You have a ETA on the finished set?
And note, while I like them I think at some point they will need a
little something. Something just doesn't fit quite right. But they are
85% there.

Also the Emblems are needing some love. Make emblem-symbolic-link white
(still use some black/gray gradient on it) and I'll upload it along with
emblem-favorite (the 1st one), emblem-downloads (though I'm not thrilled
with the globe) and emblem-synchronized.  emblem-important and
emblem-unreadable have what looks to be more of a steeper bevel to them
than the others. Correct that and I'll upload.

Maybe they need a look closer to the ones used on Daniels mail-* and
object-*  icons?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Actions Yes. I
think that's it.

What's your thinking on the network-manager icons? Seems to have stalled
a bit.


@Sebastien: The 1st set of weather-* icons will be used. Just take into
account the use-cases of the smaller sizes with regard to detail level.
Any idea of when the final "new" glyphs and such will be done? I know
mac_v wants to use them in places. They also have to be used on a few of
Daniel's icons.

Can you get together a keyboard for use with "video-display" to use as a
new "computer"?


@Daniel: It looks that with "stock_mail-import" you have refined the
shadowing to be more in-line with the rest of the set. Please apply this
to the other mail-* icons and I will upload. Also, the updates to the
Nav buttons (changing the gradient to look like lighting is from above)
should apply to stock_mail-import as well as the glyphs on mail-*.

And sorry, I just can't like the "Transmission" icon. Just feels off. :(



--The "folder" icon--

I'm really waiting to see more submissions here. We *cannot* make a
switch now only to do this all over again in a couple of months. I'll
let it go for a few weeks and make a decision as to how to proceed.

In the meantime, Andrew, can you make the tab a *little* bigger (the on
on the upper left) and get together the home and open versions?


--The base "mime" icon--

Danny King's concepts were nice but things like the torn edge detail got
lost quickly. A simple flat rectangle seems a bit boring. What else can
we come up with. Maybe someone can assemble some stuff from GNOME-Look
and places to compare what has been done. (please make it 1 image to
look at. not a archived set of images)


--Emblems--

mac_v has been working on these but I have a question. Where the emblems
use real objects such as, a lock, I feel they should be as
photo-realistic as the rest of the real icons in the set. Agreed?


--Media-* icons--

Can anyone finish out the set based on Olivers previous work?


--Use of Oxygen icons--

I know that a starting point for Breathe was using Oxygen icons but I
feel we're starting to assemble a good group of guys and as such would
like to try to not use them at all. *Totally* use them as inspiration,
but I feel Sebastien's original icons have been great and on some levels
the 2 sets just don't fit. Now I know Oxygen has multiple artists and
this could simple be a case where some artists fit and others don't
rather than the sets as a whole.


Ok. Wow. Lots of stuff there. I think most of these are little issues
but we can split if a subject becomes more important.


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