Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Hi! You must continue on that icon concept you have! I'll try out the new Dust 0.2 later today and give feedback /Andreas FrezoreR Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:38:42 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution New release: Dust 0.2! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme As for the round WM buttons, consider them as placeholders as I was too lazy to port the Dust WM buttons onto the light one. :b (kwwii: I think I'm too late here, but if this new releases could be pushed for the community-themes that'd be awesome.) Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote: 1) Light toolbars http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png That's interesting. Although, conceptually, the menu-bar is much closer to the tool-bar than to the title-bar. 2) Light version. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png Promising. Round wm-buttons move it towards Apple, though, I'd say, as much as I dislike worrying about that :) 3) New scrollbars! http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png The shading of the trough looks a bit like an overdose of ambient occlusion. I think you would do better with thinner shadows on the sides. The idea of letting the bar run out on the ends is an interesting touch. The slider looks like it is offset to the left from the middle. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19735221.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art _ Hetaste modetipsen härligaste skönhetstesterna! http://salongk.msn.se/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote: Hi everyone. Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this theme. 1) Light toolbars The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox, Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX, there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the rest, but the interface still manages to be solid. isnt it possible to make the opposite of it? and make the dark toolbar default, and than define the apps (for example with the ones with java interfaces, which cant handle the dark widget like openoffice, firefox, freemind, etc) that would use the light toolbar? maybe it is possible to set all the java interfaces at one place, like widget JAVAGtkWidget*Toolbar* style murrine-default just a guess. what do you think? 2) Light version. Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png 3) New scrollbars! Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png Comments welcome. PRGUY85 wrote: *Hi all. I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it, but I think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is very clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean in fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus window, which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone lighter and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the original dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO. Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png . And keep up the great work ! Steph.* Totally agree. Dust had me in the beginning but it has gone way off the first released mockup. I think the 3 different gradient areas in Nautilus should be worked into one unison color gradient. Here is where I prefer New Wave, however Dust has a great metacity theme and the black is better than the gray at times in my opinion. Keep up the good work. -- Manuel Mas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19717697.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Nah. Let me explain my reason for going with the light-default, dark-exceptions toolbar rule: 1) I can't be sure that third-party applications will like the dark toolbars. Having light as default will ensure better compatibility with more applications. 2) The dark toolbars can be overwhelming. I thought it'd be wise to limit the # of apps that use it. I've limited it to applications that, like I said, use everything below the toolbars as content area (Firefox, Evince PDF viewer, Nautilus...) -- rationale being the toolbars (functions) are separate from the main show (the content), which IMHO is quite intuitive and addressess most people's complaints of having both dark and light at the same window. I hope that clears things up! Adam Gusztav Nagy wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote: Hi everyone. Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this theme. 1) Light toolbars The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox, Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX, there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the rest, but the interface still manages to be solid. isnt it possible to make the opposite of it? and make the dark toolbar default, and than define the apps (for example with the ones with java interfaces, which cant handle the dark widget like openoffice, firefox, freemind, etc) that would use the light toolbar? maybe it is possible to set all the java interfaces at one place, like widget JAVAGtkWidget*Toolbar* style murrine-default just a guess. what do you think? 2) Light version. Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png 3) New scrollbars! Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png Comments welcome. PRGUY85 wrote: *Hi all. I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it, but I think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is very clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean in fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus window, which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone lighter and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the original dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO. Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png . And keep up the great work ! Steph.* Totally agree. Dust had me in the beginning but it has gone way off the first released mockup. I think the 3 different gradient areas in Nautilus should be worked into one unison color gradient. Here is where I prefer New Wave, however Dust has a great metacity theme and the black is better than the gray at times in my opinion. Keep up the good work. -- Manuel Mas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19717697.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19746868.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi everyone. Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this theme. 1) Light toolbars The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox, Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX, there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the rest, but the interface still manages to be solid. 2) Light version. Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png 3) New scrollbars! Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are: there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png Comments welcome. This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but still being coherent is great for people that uses laptops and have to turn down the brithness. Dark themes can be a bit dificult to have then. I do think though that the last scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones on your new screenshots. //Jesper -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Il giorno lun, 29/09/2008 alle 09.09 +0200, Jesper Lundgren ha scritto: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this theme. 1) Light toolbars The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox, Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX, there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the rest, but the interface still manages to be solid. 2) Light version. Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png 3) New scrollbars! Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are: there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png Comments welcome. This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but still being coherent is great for people that uses laptops and have to turn down the brithness. Dark themes can be a bit dificult to have then. I do think though that the last scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones on your new screenshots. //Jesper I agree, expecially for light theme...I have already tell about it in Naxos thread. Only a consideration about light theme, why not use the same metacity buttons of dark theme? gp -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
New release: Dust 0.2! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme As for the round WM buttons, consider them as placeholders as I was too lazy to port the Dust WM buttons onto the light one. :b (kwwii: I think I'm too late here, but if this new releases could be pushed for the community-themes that'd be awesome.) Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote: 1) Light toolbars http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png That's interesting. Although, conceptually, the menu-bar is much closer to the tool-bar than to the title-bar. 2) Light version. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png Promising. Round wm-buttons move it towards Apple, though, I'd say, as much as I dislike worrying about that :) 3) New scrollbars! http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png The shading of the trough looks a bit like an overdose of ambient occlusion. I think you would do better with thinner shadows on the sides. The idea of letting the bar run out on the ends is an interesting touch. The slider looks like it is offset to the left from the middle. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19735221.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Hi everyone. Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this theme. 1) Light toolbars The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox, Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX, there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the rest, but the interface still manages to be solid. 2) Light version. Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png 3) New scrollbars! Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png Comments welcome. PRGUY85 wrote: *Hi all. I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it, but I think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is very clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean in fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus window, which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone lighter and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the original dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO. Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png . And keep up the great work ! Steph.* Totally agree. Dust had me in the beginning but it has gone way off the first released mockup. I think the 3 different gradient areas in Nautilus should be worked into one unison color gradient. Here is where I prefer New Wave, however Dust has a great metacity theme and the black is better than the gray at times in my opinion. Keep up the good work. -- Manuel Mas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dust-menubar-evolution-tp19487168p19717697.html Sent from the ubuntu-art mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Hi, Just got the new version of Dust available on the wiki installed on my box. I like the improvements made. I just want to put the following out there - All of you guys who have put in work on New Wave, Kin and Dust - job well done. To the purpose of serving as an inspiration for how Ubuntu can look, you have done exceedingly well. There is always scope for improvement, but your work has a lot of implications on the goal which sabdfl put for Ubuntu - beat OSX in terms of aesthetics and looks. Congratulations. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
В 22:34 +0530 на 16.09.2008 (вт), Bharat Varma написа: Hi, Just got the new version of Dust available on the wiki installed on my box. I like the improvements made. I just want to put the following out there - All of you guys who have put in work on New Wave, Kin and Dust - job well done. To the purpose of serving as an inspiration for how Ubuntu can look, you have done exceedingly well. There is always scope for improvement, but your work has a lot of implications on the goal which sabdfl put for Ubuntu - beat OSX in terms of aesthetics and looks. Congratulations. Bharat Varma Thanks for the good words! Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
Hi all. I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it, but I think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is very clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean in fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus window, which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone lighter and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the original dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO. Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png . And keep up the great work ! Steph. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution
*Hi all. I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it, but I think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is very clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean in fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus window, which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone lighter and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the original dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO. Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png . And keep up the great work ! Steph.* Totally agree. Dust had me in the beginning but it has gone way off the first released mockup. I think the 3 different gradient areas in Nautilus should be worked into one unison color gradient. Here is where I prefer New Wave, however Dust has a great metacity theme and the black is better than the gray at times in my opinion. Keep up the good work. -- Manuel Mas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
