Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-22 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 06:54:58 pm j_baer wrote:
 I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I
  discovered large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem
  if we are going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).
 
 I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a pro subscription.
 Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of physiological
 questions about open source, free, community support, etc.
 
 Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.
 
 My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?

Guess I should have answered this email first ;) I was at UDS and simply missed 
it, sorry.

The flckr group is just one way of contributing to the artwork team. It is an 
attempt to enable the existing community as well as an extremely large of 
group of talented non-members to contribute desktop wallpaper-ish artwork. 
It's mainly photos, due to the nature of flickr. In Karmic we used it to 
include some nice non-default wallpapers which has been a feature request for 
years. Note the the selection of images included was done by a team of 
community members and Canonical employees. If you look at the shortlist group 
you see the first round of voting, etc.

Anyway, many of the contributions came from non-pro accounts. The downside to 
that is that they can a) only upload a limited amount of photos and b) can't 
upload high-res versions. In these cases we contacted the person by email. 
There was quite a lot of work in the background contacting everyone, etc ;)

LP, the wiki, mailing list and irc are still our home ;) During Karmic the 
size of the wiki pages became an issue (too many pics per page) so for Lucid 
we'll have to do some gardening now and again to keep things in categories or 
such.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-20 Thread Smartboy
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Haymaker haymakers...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it's filesize issues you're worried about on the Wiki, we could use an
 external dedicated image hosting site like imgur http://imgur.com/(which 
 the owner says is an example
 of code re use http://imgur.com/faq.php#how, which could be open source
 stuff but I'm not sure and I'm too lazy to look into it.)


It's not file size that is the issue, but that the wiki itself locks up
after a certain number of images are loaded, reguardless of file size.
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[ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread j_baer

I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I discovered
large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if we are
going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).

I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a pro subscription.
Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of physiological
questions about open source, free, community support, etc.

Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.

My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?

:)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Smartboy
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM, j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:


 Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art


I'm not an official member of the art team by any means, but I can answer
this question at least. The wiki isn't good enough because after a certain
number of images are loaded on a page, it refuses to load any more. Before
Flickr, near the end of the release cycle, new submissions would be unable
to be viewed.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:54:58 -0800 (PST)
j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I discovered
 large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if we are
 going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).
 
 I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a pro subscription.
 Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of physiological
 questions about open source, free, community support, etc.
 
 Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.
 
 My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?
 
 :)

I think this is a very important point, I don't now whether this was 
overlooked, but this does restrict
entries, because of this size limit.

I think something like a DeviantArt group (if they exist? Inkscape used them 
for their splash screen
contests) should be set up alongside the Flickr group, so we don't lose the 
ability to quickly mark a photo
on flickr as suitable, but also don't lower the barrier of entry.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Kenneth Wimer
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On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Andrew wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:54:58 -0800 (PST)
 j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:


 I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I  
 discovered
 large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if  
 we are
 going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).

 I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a pro  
 subscription.
 Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of  
 physiological
 questions about open source, free, community support, etc.

 Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.

 My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?

 :)

 I think this is a very important point, I don't now whether this  
 was overlooked, but this does restrict
 entries, because of this size limit.

 I think something like a DeviantArt group (if they exist? Inkscape  
 used them for their splash screen
 contests) should be set up alongside the Flickr group, so we don't  
 lose the ability to quickly mark a photo
 on flickr as suitable, but also don't lower the barrier of entry.

I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with  
them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Chris Tooley
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
[snip]
 I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with
 them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(

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What about using a place like http://ubuntu-art.org/ or http://gnome-look.org?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread j_baer


Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Andrew wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:54:58 -0800 (PST)
 j_baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:


 I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I  
 discovered
 large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if  
 we are
 going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).

 I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a pro  
 subscription.
 Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of  
 physiological
 questions about open source, free, community support, etc.

 Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.

 My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?

 :)

 I think this is a very important point, I don't now whether this  
 was overlooked, but this does restrict
 entries, because of this size limit.

 I think something like a DeviantArt group (if they exist? Inkscape  
 used them for their splash screen
 contests) should be set up alongside the Flickr group, so we don't  
 lose the ability to quickly mark a photo
 on flickr as suitable, but also don't lower the barrier of entry.

 I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with  
 them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(
 
 - --
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Perhaps Yahoo would be willing to support open source by relaxing the file
size restriction for communities like Ubuntu. A request like this would
probably be better received if made by Canonical but I am willing to give
them a shout if you prefer.

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Saleel Velankar


 I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with
 them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(

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wait what? why cant we just set up an unofficial group? A collection maybe?
http://browse.deviantart.com/collections/?loggedin=1
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Saleel Velankar
http://help.deviantart.com/673/

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