Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-08 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

> shouldn't you
> complete a theme without Compiz dependence and then work toward it as an
> extra?

I agree. Metacity also have a compositor, but the theme should works
perfectly without compositor at all.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-08 Thread Étienne Bersac

Hi,

> Who said the titlebars should be brown?

I didn't say titlebars, this was a comment for the overall theme. I
actually like the way New Wave is going on. I guess you read the
discussion at #ubuntu-classroom and that you know a bit of sabdfl
taste ;)

For example : folder icons, highlighting and glow should be brown or
orange.

About Clear Intrepid : icon set and transparency everywhere remember me
Vista Areo !

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-08 Thread Bharat Varma
I have a suggestion for the GTK of New Wave. I do not know the technical
terms, so I will try to explain as clearly as I can.
In a Nautilus window, e.g.
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mynewwave1hg8.png

There is the toolbar, the location bar, the side bar and the area where the
folder icons are shown (e.g., Modeli, Musica etc. in the screenshot) which I
will call 'folder area' for now.

Folder area is surrounded by - what are basically- gray boxes. I was
wondering if it is possible to have a 1 pixel border between the gray area
and the white color of the folder area. So basically an
inverted-reversed-L-shaped 1 px border between the sidebar+the
toolbar/location bar area *and* the folder area.

I have added a mockup of this change in the link below.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2978/mynewwave1hg8borderedgtyg3.png

I am not sure if GTK allows for this, but if it does it is very good to
have.

Bharat Varma

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 22:14 +0200 на 07.05.2008 (ср), Étienne Bersac написа:
> Hi,
> 
> About orange. You should keep some brown in it or won't be included as
> default.
> 
> Regards,
> Étienne.
> 
> 

Who said the titlebars should be brown? I think that if we have the
proper orange accents here and there it would be much better than an
eye-strain orange line at the top of each window.

Some inspiration:

http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=92144__Africa1_122_432lo.jpg

http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=92148_Africa2_122_1075lo.jpg

http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=92153_Africa3_122_641lo.jpg

Julian said:
> i'd like to see an implementation as-close-as-possible to what was in
> Francois' original New Wave mockup (min/max/close titlebar icons
> included!) and take it from there with adaptations where necessary
> (ideally after testing it)..
> 

I've made one but it is not as good as expected:

http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93045_experimental_122_630lo.jpg


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Wed, May 07, 2008 at 08:59:10PM +0300, Anton Kerezov said:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> As you may have read ???François and I are wondering what direction the
> New Wave theme to go on:
> 
> Either this way:
> http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
> ???(the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)
> 
> that is closer to:
> http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
> 

Brad's mockup is much more resolved than the above New Wave test, though
i liked Francois' original mockup just fine. 

i'd like to see an implementation as-close-as-possible to what was in
Francois' original New Wave mockup (min/max/close titlebar icons
included!) and take it from there with adaptations where necessary
(ideally after testing it)..

what i am most worried about is the early dependence on Compiz.. do drop
shadows really matter? i know Cory disagrees here but shouldn't you
complete a theme without Compiz dependence and then work toward it as an
extra?

i teach with Ubuntu on a regular basis at university and in several
cultural centres: one of the first things i do is turn Compiz off as it
simply doesn't play nicely when one is programming 3D graphics
applications (a topic i often teach).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Cory K.
Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> About orange. You should keep some brown in it or won't be included as
> default.

Don't worry about default. Just create.

Or, maybe it would be better to say: "You should keep some brown in it
or won't be considered for default." :)

-Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

About orange. You should keep some brown in it or won't be included as
default.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread François Degrave
Anton Kerezov a écrit :
> В 21:42 +0200 на 07.05.2008 (ср), François Degrave написа:
>   
>> Anton Kerezov a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> As you may have read François and I are wondering what direction the
>>> New Wave theme to go on:
>>>
>>> Either this way:
>>> http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
>>> (the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)
>>>
>>> that is closer to:
>>> http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or that way:
>>> http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53445_NewWave_test_06.1_122_211lo.jpg
>>>
>>> This one allows you to see my Idea of having content drop shadow on the
>>> menubar and it further drops shadow on the taskbar resulting in layered
>>> view:
>>> http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53446_NewWave_test_06.2_122_383lo.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Anton
>>>   
>> Please don't forget that if the engine enables separation between 
>> active/inactive window borders - as does Metacity -, the theme look 
>> something like that:
>>
>> http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89174_NewWave_Dark_n_Light_122_859lo.jpg
>>
>> That would make things far less aggressive!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> François
>>
>> 
>
> I think we should develop the widgets' themeing and then offer the theme
> in these two variants. Thus everybody will enjoy the thing he likes
> more. Besides we can always make the darker - lighter :) 
>
> Everybody: you can still express opinion on the topic. The poll is not
> over.
>
>
> Anton 

Really good idea. If we can still easily have both, let's do it! It will 
be easier to judge with the final result.

Cheers again,

François

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread José Luis
IMHO this way:

http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg 
and http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127 . 
It has a very professional look, while keeping the orange. Its more "solid" 
than option B. 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 21:42 +0200 на 07.05.2008 (ср), François Degrave написа:
> Anton Kerezov a écrit :
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > As you may have read François and I are wondering what direction the
> > New Wave theme to go on:
> >
> > Either this way:
> > http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
> > (the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)
> >
> > that is closer to:
> > http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
> >
> >
> >
> > Or that way:
> > http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53445_NewWave_test_06.1_122_211lo.jpg
> >
> > This one allows you to see my Idea of having content drop shadow on the
> > menubar and it further drops shadow on the taskbar resulting in layered
> > view:
> > http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53446_NewWave_test_06.2_122_383lo.jpg
> >
> >
> > Anton
> 
> Please don't forget that if the engine enables separation between 
> active/inactive window borders - as does Metacity -, the theme look 
> something like that:
> 
> http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89174_NewWave_Dark_n_Light_122_859lo.jpg
> 
> That would make things far less aggressive!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> François
> 

I think we should develop the widgets' themeing and then offer the theme
in these two variants. Thus everybody will enjoy the thing he likes
more. Besides we can always make the darker - lighter :) 

Everybody: you can still express opinion on the topic. The poll is not
over.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread François Degrave
Anton Kerezov a écrit :
> Hello everyone,
>
> As you may have read François and I are wondering what direction the
> New Wave theme to go on:
>
> Either this way:
> http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
> (the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)
>
> that is closer to:
> http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
>
>
>
> Or that way:
> http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53445_NewWave_test_06.1_122_211lo.jpg
>
> This one allows you to see my Idea of having content drop shadow on the
> menubar and it further drops shadow on the taskbar resulting in layered
> view:
> http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53446_NewWave_test_06.2_122_383lo.jpg
>
>
> Anton

Please don't forget that if the engine enables separation between 
active/inactive window borders - as does Metacity -, the theme look 
something like that:

http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89174_NewWave_Dark_n_Light_122_859lo.jpg

That would make things far less aggressive!

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread N. Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII)
I like the darker theme better, but it may look too hardcore and be tiring
for casual users.

Tough pick.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> As you may have read François and I are wondering what direction the
> New Wave theme to go on:
>
> Either this way:
>
> http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
> (the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)
>
> that is closer to:
> http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
>
>
>
> Or that way:
>
> http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53445_NewWave_test_06.1_122_211lo.jpg
>
> This one allows you to see my Idea of having content drop shadow on the
> menubar and it further drops shadow on the taskbar resulting in layered
> view:
>
> http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53446_NewWave_test_06.2_122_383lo.jpg
>
>
> Anton
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Poll

2008-05-07 Thread Anton Kerezov
Hello everyone,

As you may have read François and I are wondering what direction the
New Wave theme to go on:

Either this way:
http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74539_NewWave_test_07_122_995lo.jpg
(the taskbar should be one idea lighter, I think)

that is closer to:
http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127



Or that way:
http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53445_NewWave_test_06.1_122_211lo.jpg

This one allows you to see my Idea of having content drop shadow on the
menubar and it further drops shadow on the taskbar resulting in layered
view:
http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53446_NewWave_test_06.2_122_383lo.jpg


Anton


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