Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Sumit Agarwal]

First things first: the (RED) concept should be investigated and  
approved before we really use any of our limited time and resources  
creating interface elements for it.


-Sumit


On Apr 6, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Brian wrote:

Considering we'd need a red theme to go with it, it wasn't out of  
place. I originally asked if anyone was interested helping out with  
this. And now, I don't know who next to contact.


- Original Message 
From: Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 3:13:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

I think that this has nothing to do with artwork and therefor this
conversation is totally out of place on this list.

--
Kenneth

On Sunday 06 April 2008 23:58:45 Brian wrote:
> Sorry, bit of a delayed response heheh, but what do you think  
would be the
> best way to go about contacting them? And what other lists/people  
should I

> contact about this?
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Damián Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:48:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)
>
> Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the  
owners of
> the Ubuntu brand. But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already*  
helping a
> lot of people in Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access  
to
> technology by offering an open, clean and easy to use OS for free.  
Maybe
> it's not as urgent or dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at  
least

> it's something.
>
> D.
>
> 2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Am Mittwoch, den  
02.04.2008,

00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> > Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> >
> > More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work.  
(RED) works
> > by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With  
Ubuntu
> > being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a  
percentage

> > of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
>
> Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created  
products. So
> Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A  
percentage

> of /that/ would go to the global fund.
>
> It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
> (Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that  
one
> could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The  
cost

> would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
> should be clear that it's non-profit.
> I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things,  
though.

>
> But I have to say: I'd buy it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Brian]

Considering we'd need a red theme to go with it, it wasn't out of place. I 
originally asked if anyone was interested helping out with this. And now, I 
don't know who next to contact.

- Original Message 
From: Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 3:13:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

I think that this has nothing to do with artwork and therefor this 
conversation is totally out of place on this list.

--
Kenneth

On Sunday 06 April 2008 23:58:45 Brian wrote:
> Sorry, bit of a delayed response heheh, but what do you think would be the
> best way to go about contacting them? And what other lists/people should I
> contact about this?
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Damián Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:48:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)
>
> Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the owners of
> the Ubuntu brand. But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already* helping a
> lot of people in Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access to
> technology by offering an open, clean and easy to use OS for free. Maybe
> it's not as urgent or dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at least
> it's something.
>
> D.
>
> 2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 
00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> > Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> >
> > More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works
> > by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu
> > being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage
> > of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
>
> Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
> Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
> of /that/ would go to the global fund.
>
> It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
> (Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
> could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
> would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
> should be clear that it's non-profit.
> I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.
>
> But I have to say: I'd buy it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Kenneth Wimer]

I think that this has nothing to do with artwork and therefor this 
conversation is totally out of place on this list.

--
Kenneth

On Sunday 06 April 2008 23:58:45 Brian wrote:
> Sorry, bit of a delayed response heheh, but what do you think would be the
> best way to go about contacting them? And what other lists/people should I
> contact about this?
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Damián Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:48:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)
>
> Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the owners of
> the Ubuntu brand. But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already* helping a
> lot of people in Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access to
> technology by offering an open, clean and easy to use OS for free. Maybe
> it's not as urgent or dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at least
> it's something.
>
> D.
>
> 2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 
00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> > Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> >
> > More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works
> > by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu
> > being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage
> > of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
>
> Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
> Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
> of /that/ would go to the global fund.
>
> It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
> (Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
> could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
> would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
> should be clear that it's non-profit.
> I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.
>
> But I have to say: I'd buy it.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Brian]

Sorry, bit of a delayed response heheh, but what do you think would be the best 
way to go about contacting them?
And what other lists/people should I contact about this?

- Original Message 
From: Damián Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:48:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the owners of the 
Ubuntu brand.
But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already* helping a lot of people in 
Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access to technology by offering an 
open, clean and easy to use OS for free. Maybe it's not as urgent or dramatic 
as what Product (RED) does, but at least it's something.
 
D.

 
2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 
00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
>
> More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works
> by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu
> being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage
> of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
>

Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
of /that/ would go to the global fund.

It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
(Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
should be clear that it's non-profit.
I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.

But I have to say: I'd buy it.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Thomas L.Gjeseth]

Hi,
To be honest, I don't like the idea... 
Two reasons:
- I don't think Ubuntu should cost money at all
- I don't think projects like these really help, I think the 
north/south-problem is a fundamentally bigger problem than just donating some 
cash. First of all, most money disappear in organizational bureaucracy, second 
most money also come back to western countries in form of debts etc. , third 
donating some money wont help on the real issue here: western states rule the 
world, while southern/eastern states don't. Look at the UN's Security Council, 
any african country? Nah. The bottom line is: Who's got the power. Currently 
the western "empire" has got the power, and not a single donation will help 
revert this fact.

It would help more donating money to f.ex Amnesty International, which puts 
real pressure on governments for their human rights abuses and power misuse - 
which create many of the problems in the first place. 

Just my five cents.

- Thomas L.G

> From: Damián Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 2008-04-02 10:48:10 CEST
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)
> 
> Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the owners of
> the Ubuntu brand.
> But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already* helping a lot of people in
> Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access to technology by offering
> an open, clean and easy to use OS for free. Maybe it's not as urgent or
> dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at least it's something.
> 
> D.
> 
> 
> 2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> > > Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> > >
> > > More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works
> > > by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu
> > > being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage
> > > of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
> > >
> >
> > Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
> > Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
> > of /that/ would go to the global fund.
> >
> > It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
> > (Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
> > could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
> > would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
> > should be clear that it's non-profit.
> > I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.
> >
> > But I have to say: I'd buy it.
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Damián Vila]

Well, you'll have to convince Canonical first, since they are the owners of
the Ubuntu brand.
But I wanted to stress that Ubuntu is *already* helping a lot of people in
Africa (and the rest of the world) to have access to technology by offering
an open, clean and easy to use OS for free. Maybe it's not as urgent or
dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at least it's something.

D.


2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> > Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> >
> > More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works
> > by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu
> > being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage
> > of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
> >
>
> Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
> Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
> of /that/ would go to the global fund.
>
> It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
> (Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
> could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
> would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
> should be clear that it's non-profit.
> I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.
>
> But I have to say: I'd buy it.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Nick Bauermeister]

Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal:
> Philosophically it certainly makes sense.
> 
> More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works 
> by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu 
> being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage 
> of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?
>

Additionally, (Product) RED works with specifically created products. So
Canonical would have to launch (Ubuntu) RED and sell it. A percentage
of /that/ would go to the global fund.

It would be nice to have a specific Ubuntu-Version for that, with a
(Product) RED inspired artwork. I mean the _whole_ profit of that one
could be donated, which would make very good PR for Canonical. The cost
would have to be inexpensive, of course, like say 10 bucks. And it
should be clear that it's non-profit.
I don't think this is the proper list to discuss such things, though.

But I have to say: I'd buy it.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Sumit Agarwal]

Philosophically it certainly makes sense.

More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works 
by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu 
being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage 
of their services revenue? Would Canonical agree to such a thing?

-Sumit

Brian wrote:
> Okay, so I don't know if anyone checks the brainstorm here, but I 
> posted one (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6200/) about getting 
> Ubuntu involved with (RED). Since it seems there's a fair amount of 
> interest, I figured I'd go ahead and see if I could get some people 
> involved. =]
> I would really love to make this happen, and I don't really know who 
> to talk to and ask about this, so I figured I'd stop by here first and 
> see if anyone wanted to help (RED)-ify Ubuntu. xD
>
> I made kind of a logo, if anyone wants it. :] 
> http://i28.tinypic.com/fpbhg3.png
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

[Cory K.]

Brian wrote:
> Okay, so I don't know if anyone checks the brainstorm here, but I
> posted one (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6200/) about getting
> Ubuntu involved with (RED). Since it seems there's a fair amount of
> interest, I figured I'd go ahead and see if I could get some people
> involved. =]
> I would really love to make this happen, and I don't really know who
> to talk to and ask about this, so I figured I'd stop by here first and
> see if anyone wanted to help (RED)-ify Ubuntu. xD
>
> I made kind of a logo, if anyone wants it. :]
> http://i28.tinypic.com/fpbhg3.png

I was actually thinking the same thing. I'll help where I can.

I say we just create a theme pack. Icons will be the hardest part.

I can also look into packaging it.

-Cory \m/

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