Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
I am new to the art team, and would like to ask where would be the best place to post my new Long Term Vision theme, a follow-up to Gimmie-Human. I would ordinarily post a new theme directly under the Incoming/Intrepid sub-directory, but this is a very ambitious re-envisioning of Ubuntu and probably not totally implementable in one development cycle. I would like to modularize aspects of the theme realization, such that work could begin under Intrepid, and then continue implementing other modules in subsequent releases until completion or another vision takes its place. Its mentioned on the main Artwork (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork) page, as well as the Incoming page, a little lower down. Obviously this is not working, so if anyone has a suggestion to help make this a little clearer, please email me :). If you have a complete concept that is meant to be developed outside of the regular release cycle, such as Blubuntu--please use the /PageTemplate and put your page in /Incoming. Keep it clear and simple. So, the correct place for items that lie outside the release cycle is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming Theres a form there that will help you do that :). Make sure you keep us updated on the situation in the list though! For all reading this-- DO NOT email Mark Shuttleworth all your themes. Submit all things to artwork lists and other places detailed under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/GetInvolved, as well as probably www.ubuntu-art.org :). The correct person to contact is the Canonical Representive, Kenneth Wimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). What you have so far looks great but remember, the only developer resources we have are the ones we can muster up ourselves :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Dear Nothlit, Thanks for the advice on where to post. I have still not posted the concept (still editing), so this helps. I had read the section you cite on the Incoming page, but was nervous about posting outside the current release cycle area -- I thought it was for items which were never intended for implementation in the mainstream releases, i.e. optional themes and whatnot. Don't worry, contrary to advice, I had no intention of emailing Mark Shuttleworth! :) Take care, Brian - Original Message From: nothlit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:09:31 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme I am new to the art team, and would like to ask where would be the best place to post my new Long Term Vision theme, a follow-up to Gimmie-Human. I would ordinarily post a new theme directly under the Incoming/Intrepid sub-directory, but this is a very ambitious re-envisioning of Ubuntu and probably not totally implementable in one development cycle. I would like to modularize aspects of the theme realization, such that work could begin under Intrepid, and then continue implementing other modules in subsequent releases until completion or another vision takes its place. Its mentioned on the main Artwork (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork) page, as well as the Incoming page, a little lower down. Obviously this is not working, so if anyone has a suggestion to help make this a little clearer, please email me :). If you have a complete concept that is meant to be developed outside of the regular release cycle, such as Blubuntu--please use the /PageTemplate and put your page in /Incoming. Keep it clear and simple. So, the correct place for items that lie outside the release cycle is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming Theres a form there that will help you do that :). Make sure you keep us updated on the situation in the list though! For all reading this-- DO NOT email Mark Shuttleworth all your themes. Submit all things to artwork lists and other places detailed under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/GetInvolved, as well as probably www.ubuntu-art.org :). The correct person to contact is the Canonical Representive, Kenneth Wimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). What you have so far looks great but remember, the only developer resources we have are the ones we can muster up ourselves :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Two thoughts on the theme: 1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space. The area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space for most people. 2) I don't like how the notification area's background is significantly different than the recent of the panel's. Having it look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in with the panel. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should a. put an email on the list b. make a page on the wiki c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have pictured. It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Dear Michael, Thank you for your feedback. I will post my work with larger images into the Intrepid wiki once I finish the text explaination. In answer to your points: 1) the precise placement on the bottom bar is totally fluid, and up to debate. I personally had considered placing it higher, up to about 1/3 up from the bottom, just to make it more aesthetically pleasing -- though your point about leaving more space for other functions is well taken! I am totally upen to suggestions about what to put down there. However, my gut reaction and part of the reason I removed the lower tool bar to begin with was to take up less panel space on smaller screens, and try to make the user interface more friendly, say like consumer electronics. Too many panels confuses people and are just not easy on the eyes. Of course placing other functions in the 4 corner areas (Fitt's Law) is always good in theory -- however I think it should not done in a way that sacrifices the look and feel of the interface. 2) Please specify what you mean by notification area. If you are refering to the main panel activated clicking the Ubuntu symbol, the version I present is the pretty face that includes clutter animations and allows for growing/shrinking tabbed icons. A static version with icons of uniform size could be used on lower power systems without Compiz or Clutter enabled. When using icons of static size, the active icon could be represented by a difference in brightness and contrast levels, and/or an icon outline. Thank you for your input. I will post my full work as soon as I am able! Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Michael McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:07:18 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme Two thoughts on the theme: 1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space. The area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space for most people. 2) I don't like how the notification area's background is significantly different than the recent of the panel's. Having it look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in with the panel. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should a. put an email on the list b. make a page on the wiki c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have pictured. It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
how about you can move the bar around? -- Frank Lloyd Wright - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Shadowh511, Most launcher type applications are totally flexible in terms of how you place them. I beleive Michael was pointing out a perceived bad use of space in the default layout. I was planning a section just on the topic of how to use the tabbed launcher bar, its interface, and screen location. One cool thing is, I had previously gotten feedback from a couple of the guys on the Mayanna team that the launcher was completely feasible using their code. I will contact them again after I post this iteration. I beleive the man-machine interface I outline will be highly efficient and unlike any other OSs user experience. -Brian - Original Message From: shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:54:04 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme how about you can move the bar around? -- Frank Lloyd Wright - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
2) Please specify what you mean by notification area. Notification area == system tray -Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Hi Michael, Oh, I see! I think the indented look you mention may be an artifact of the low resolution I used to get the pictures to attach to my email. Take a look at my pictures once I finish posting and then see what you think. I use a brown rounded rectangle as a background for the notification area, with a non-gradated gray color, but no indentation. Thanks for getting back to me! Regards, Brian - Original Message From: Michael McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme 2) Please specify what you mean by notification area. Notification area == system tray -Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
