Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-06-01 Thread Sean Hammond

I think there needs to be an update shipped to fix the theme
descriptions... on the CD I downloaded an hour ago half of the new
themes have blank descriptions (there were 2 or 3 blanks IIRC),
another has the description running off the edge of the window and
unreadable, another has a word missing in the description.

On 6/1/06, Sean Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just downloaded a Dapper release iso and it looks like the theme
description fixes didn't make it in.

On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dapper-Drake: No description
> >
> Fixed
> Now reads:
> A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours
>
> > Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> > word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> > by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
> >
>
> I think that'll stay
>
> > IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
> > renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
> > end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
> > clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
> > cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
> > that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
> > theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).
> >
>
> Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons
>
> > Resilience: No description.
> >
>
> Fixed
> An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons
>
> > Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
> > word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
> > eyes."
> >
> Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes
>
> > Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
> > using dapper.
> >
> > Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
> > because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.
> >
> tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> >
>


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-06-01 Thread Sean Hammond

I just downloaded a Dapper release iso and it looks like the theme
description fixes didn't make it in.

On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours

> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
>

I think that'll stay

> IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
> renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
> end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
> clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
> cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
> that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
> theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).
>

Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons

> Resilience: No description.
>

Fixed
An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons

> Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
> word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
> eyes."
>
Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes

> Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
> using dapper.
>
> Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
> because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Who

On 5/29/06, Sean Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice work!


Thanks for the 'heads up' :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Sean Hammond

Just a note: It is actually possible to have longer multi-line
descriptions for themes should we want them if we insert line breaks
in the right places.

On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours

> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
>

I think that'll stay

> IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
> renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
> end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
> clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
> cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
> that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
> theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).
>

Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons

> Resilience: No description.
>

Fixed
An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons

> Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
> word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
> eyes."
>
Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes

> Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
> using dapper.
>
> Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
> because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 19:29 +0100, Who wrote:


> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours

> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
>

I think that'll stay

> IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
> renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
> end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
> clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
> cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
> that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
> theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).
>

Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons

> Resilience: No description.
>

Fixed
An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons

> Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
> word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
> eyes."
>
Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes

> Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
> using dapper.
>
> Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
> because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.
>
tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
>





You're fast! I was replying butyou took care of it! Thx!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Sean Hammond

Nice work!

On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours

> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
>

I think that'll stay

> IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
> renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
> end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
> clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
> cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
> that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
> theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).
>

Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons

> Resilience: No description.
>

Fixed
An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons

> Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
> word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
> eyes."
>
Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes

> Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
> using dapper.
>
> Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
> because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.
>
tps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Pygall
I second that, thank you Who.- Original Message From: Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Ubuntu Art Sent: Monday, 29 May, 2006 7:20:56 PMSubject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and IconsThank you very much for all of your work Who.  Workget things done, and for that, I appreciate you makingUbuntu that little bit better for everyone.On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote:> > Last 5 minutes.> Enjoy :)-- ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art-- 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Who

Dapper-Drake: No description


Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours


Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)



I think that'll stay


IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).



Good suggestion. Now reads. An efficient and elegant theme using Tango icons


Resilience: No description.



Fixed
An efficient theme with coloured menubars and Tangerine icons


Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
eyes."


Fixed: A clean theme designed to be easy on the eyes


Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
using dapper.

Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote:


> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all!
>

OK, done. I'd love someone to try these out (a sceond opinion, they
work here) before I email them to Danial.

Given that two of the themes no longer have an XT component I have
renamed them. I have providied a tarball unrenamed in case Daniel
doesn't want to rename themes (which he suggested he might not)

Enjoy :)



I tried the RenamedThemes on 2 users and looked at all the index.theme files, and they all work! Good Job!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Thank you very much for all of your work Who.  Work
get things done, and for that, I appreciate you making
Ubuntu that little bit better for everyone.

On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote:
> > Last 5 minutes.
> Enjoy :)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Sean Hammond

Somebody else should verify this as I'm testing them on Breezy and
they may be clashing with previous versions I have installed, but the
theme descriptions in Theme Preferences look a bit messed up:

Dapper-Drake: No description

Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)

IndustrialTango: reads "An elegant and very efficient theme, using
renamed 'clearlooks' window bord" at that point the text goes off the
end of the window. I don't think it's necessary to talk about renamed
clearlooks window borders in the one line theme description. Suggest
cutting it to just: "An elegant and very efficient theme." (although
that isn't very descriptive, not much use to anyone trying to choose a
theme, but the same could be said for many of the descriptions).

Resilience: No description.

Silicon: "A clean theme to be easy on the eyes." Looks like there's a
word missing here, suggest: "A clean theme meant to be easy on the
eyes."

Again, this should be confirmed by someone with a clean set of themes
using dapper.

Also I got missing icons for a bunch of the themes. This is probably
because I'm using breezy, but someone on dapper should test it anyway.

On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry 
all!
>

OK, done. I'd love someone to try these out (a sceond opinion, they
work here) before I email them to Danial.

Given that two of the themes no longer have an XT component I have
renamed them. I have providied a tarball unrenamed in case Daniel
doesn't want to rename themes (which he suggested he might not)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Who


 Both Silicon and Industrial have icon themes as well and came in under
Dapper-Drake. Silicon doesn't go with any of the currently include Icon
Themes, but Dapper-Drake does. What a fiasco :(


Silicon is currently going to be in with Tango icons, which I like -
if you don't then why not head to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/DapperThemes_OLD

and leave a mark suggesting otherwise. It is a draw for axe and Tango
and I have stated I'll favour keeping in such draws.

A fiasco, I agree. A result of the way the choosing was done, which we
have discussed at length and will discuss more!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:35 +0100, Who wrote:


>  Vote was done last week! Dapper was ahead of Silicon and
> IndustrialInspirite. No need to vote again, with some last minute trick to
> get someone elses or your own theme in. That's really low. Disgusting
> really!

Billy, please!

Industrial Inspirate was not put in by me, Daniel added it because he
didn't have HumanLegacy (nothing to do with me). I have since emailed
him HumanLegacy!

Even so, all 6 _can_ go in, that is not a problem.

Let me set the record straight:
Daniel has said there is _no way_ we can get the icons in - so we need
to change the themes so they don't all fall back on to Gnome because
the icons aren't found (I.E slect either Human, Tango, Tangerine or
Gnome for each theme we want to include). Check the IRC logs, I
specifically asked for Gion to be included because it is small...

So we needed to decide which of the icon themes available to put in to
the themes we had selected. Some people, not suggested axing themes
that are no longer complete - which is why we had to have this second
vote.

Note that my pervious email stated I would favour keeping themes _IN_
if we had a draw between in and out. I emailed you individually to get
you to vote so that Dapper-Drake could be decisively in.

I am not trying to boot out themes!

The working packages (not debs...) that I have ready to send to Daniel
have al 6 in and have since I put the vote up.

Hope that clears the air! I ahve been worrying today about how to do this fairly



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:


On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
>  > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry
> all!
>
>
>
>  Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme
> gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.
>
>
>  Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake

All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very
different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so
Dapper Drake is a very different theme




Both Silicon and Industrial have icon themes as well and came in under Dapper-Drake. Silicon doesn't go with any of the currently include Icon Themes, but Dapper-Drake does. What a fiasco :(


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:


On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
>  > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry
> all!
>
>
>
>  Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme
> gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.
>
>
>  Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake

All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very
different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so
Dapper Drake is a very different theme



Dapper-Drake looks great with Human. In fact, I used Human Icons when I made it. All the more reason to include it because it doesn't need another icon themes.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:


On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
>  > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry
> all!
>
>
>
>  Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme
> gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.
>
>
>  Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake

All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very
different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so
Dapper Drake is a very different theme





https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperArtVoteResults


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 12:21 -0500, Billy wrote:
> Or was it Silicon? Well either way. Dapper-Drake stays!

Who is doing the work and he is stressed enough as it is.
To this end, I support him 100% because he is putting in the
legwork where others have dropped the ball or are unavailable.


He is doing the work.  Please let's support him in this
rather crisis-like moment.  With a lack of documentation,
structure, and the rest, we all share the results.

This is release 6.06 people.  Not 0.08.

Thanks...


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Who

On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:

 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
 > We need to be done in an hour.
>

Last 5 minutes.

Currently it stands like this

Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine

I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry
all!



 Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme
gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.


 Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake


All the themes have changed! Without their icons they are very
different, hene the new vote - Gion will no longer be included so
Dapper Drake is a very different theme

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:

On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: 


> We need to be done in an hour.
>

Last 5 minutes.

Currently it stands like this

Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine

I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all!




Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.


Yes, both were under Dapper-Drake


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:

On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote: 


> We need to be done in an hour.
>

Last 5 minutes.

Currently it stands like this

Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine

I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all!




Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.


Or was it Silicon? Well either way. Dapper-Drake stays!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Who

On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:

 > We need to be done in an hour.
>

Last 5 minutes.

Currently it stands like this

Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine

I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry
all!



 Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme
gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.


Daniel included the theme, because he didn't have HumanLegacy - now he
does. but we have fewer themes

We are not axing them because of scpae, we are axing them because
people think they don't look good anymore (i.e without their icons)
and we don't want to ship half-baked themes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and Icons

2006-05-29 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:


> We need to be done in an hour.
>

Last 5 minutes.

Currently it stands like this

Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine

I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame - sorry all!




Democratic? IndustrialXT wasn't even going to be included. If any theme gets the axe, it is it. Not Dapper-Drake. That's democracy.


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