Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
On Thursday 03 July 2008 03:16:33 Brian Fleeger wrote: Salene -- Thanks, you are right to point out it is not art related. However, the two areas I point out have been the object of many legitimate critiques in the past from many press reviews of Ubuntu and in many a forum. I do not think I am the first person to notice this. From a design perspective, sometimes what you leave out is more important than what you include. Ken -- you sit at many tables and wear many hats; is cleaning up excess material something you could/would pass on to relevent parties? If this in not within your range of authority, that is okay. My only intention is to make Ubuntu a better end product. Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to some people and see what the possiblities are. Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to some people and see what the possiblities are. That's great! I have a theory that so many screensavers are included by default not because there is an army of ardent supporters advocating their inclusion, but because they are part of some upstream programs that nobody has thought to remove yet. Swapping them out for some more included wallpapers will really improve the user experience. The first act of personalization for most users is to change the wallpapers, and the first place most users go to do that is the included alternate wallpaper folder. Thanks, Brian - Original Message From: Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:31:34 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? On Thursday 03 July 2008 03:16:33 Brian Fleeger wrote: Salene -- Thanks, you are right to point out it is not art related. However, the two areas I point out have been the object of many legitimate critiques in the past from many press reviews of Ubuntu and in many a forum. I do not think I am the first person to notice this. From a design perspective, sometimes what you leave out is more important than what you include. Ken -- you sit at many tables and wear many hats; is cleaning up excess material something you could/would pass on to relevent parties? If this in not within your range of authority, that is okay. My only intention is to make Ubuntu a better end product. Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to some people and see what the possiblities are. Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
I agree with the screensavers, half of them just fail -- Will Rogers - I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 05:07:37 Brian Fleeger wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger Until now the biggest problem with getting more pics in has been the size of the CD image. In Hardy we included one extra pic and I was hoping on including one or two more this time as well. I'd also like to go through the gnome themes and remove all the older, outdated ones and include some nicer, newer stuff...perhaps that would be a subject on which everyone could vote. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
Well, other than the outdated themes, there are two other major areas that I can recommend trimming some fat: the massive overstock of built-in screensavers; and the bloat of outdated games. Sorry to say it, but when was the last time anybody really needed to change their screensavers avery day for two years and never repeat? ;) But seriously, most of those screensavers and games are pretty ugly and/or not fun. I can't think the space might not be better used elsewhere, like including better wallpapers, which people do change frequently. Anybody else want to chime in on areas that could be trimmed? Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:44:41 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? On Wednesday 02 July 2008 05:07:37 Brian Fleeger wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger Until now the biggest problem with getting more pics in has been the size of the CD image. In Hardy we included one extra pic and I was hoping on including one or two more this time as well. I'd also like to go through the gnome themes and remove all the older, outdated ones and include some nicer, newer stuff...perhaps that would be a subject on which everyone could vote. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
These things are not art related... ou would have to bring this up with the other development teams if we decided to include more wallpapers. Salane On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, other than the outdated themes, there are two other major areas that I can recommend trimming some fat: the massive overstock of built-in screensavers; and the bloat of outdated games. Sorry to say it, but when was the last time anybody really needed to change their screensavers avery day for two years and never repeat? ;) But seriously, most of those screensavers and games are pretty ugly and/or not fun. I can't think the space might not be better used elsewhere, like including better wallpapers, which people do change frequently. Anybody else want to chime in on areas that could be trimmed? Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:44:41 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? On Wednesday 02 July 2008 05:07:37 Brian Fleeger wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger Until now the biggest problem with getting more pics in has been the size of the CD image. In Hardy we included one extra pic and I was hoping on including one or two more this time as well. I'd also like to go through the gnome themes and remove all the older, outdated ones and include some nicer, newer stuff...perhaps that would be a subject on which everyone could vote. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
Salene -- Thanks, you are right to point out it is not art related. However, the two areas I point out have been the object of many legitimate critiques in the past from many press reviews of Ubuntu and in many a forum. I do not think I am the first person to notice this. From a design perspective, sometimes what you leave out is more important than what you include. Ken -- you sit at many tables and wear many hats; is cleaning up excess material something you could/would pass on to relevent parties? If this in not within your range of authority, that is okay. My only intention is to make Ubuntu a better end product. Regards, Brian - Original Message From: Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 7:33:44 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? These things are not art related... ou would have to bring this up with the other development teams if we decided to include more wallpapers. Salane On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, other than the outdated themes, there are two other major areas that I can recommend trimming some fat: the massive overstock of built-in screensavers; and the bloat of outdated games. Sorry to say it, but when was the last time anybody really needed to change their screensavers avery day for two years and never repeat? ;) But seriously, most of those screensavers and games are pretty ugly and/or not fun. I can't think the space might not be better used elsewhere, like including better wallpapers, which people do change frequently. Anybody else want to chime in on areas that could be trimmed? Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:44:41 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? On Wednesday 02 July 2008 05:07:37 Brian Fleeger wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger Until now the biggest problem with getting more pics in has been the size of the CD image. In Hardy we included one extra pic and I was hoping on including one or two more this time as well. I'd also like to go through the gnome themes and remove all the older, outdated ones and include some nicer, newer stuff...perhaps that would be a subject on which everyone could vote. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
Yes, I totally agree. Please, please include a more diverse selection of alternate wallpapers in the Intrepid release. There should be no problem even including more than 7 or 8 On 7/1/08, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Ravindra Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 4:17:17 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This? I have a small suggestion to make, I have noticed that a normal Ubuntu live CD installation has at a maximum of 2 or 3 wallpapers by default while other distros such as Opensuse, Fedora, Linux Mint etc have at least 7 or 8. It would be nice if some of the art submitted at Ubuntu Art could be included also in the Live CD to give a user more choice. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
I'm relatively new to the list, but based on some of the work I've already seen, damn...there's no shortage of interesting wallpapers out there. Wallpapers are pretty small -- there's some great stuff out there. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Mark Devet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I totally agree. Please, please include a more diverse selection of alternate wallpapers in the Intrepid release. There should be no problem even including more than 7 or 8 On 7/1/08, Brian Fleeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ravindra makes a good point -- each release should have a better selection of alternate wallpapers. I posted a bunch of open source photographs a few days back on the Desktop Background Submissions page, all taken from the WikiMedia site. I selected each of them for their inherent mixture of brown with other lively colors (reds, blues, yellows, etc). Incidentally, they would all look good with the dark theme in Alpha 1, or New Wave (the next heir apparent). Though I include the link to the web sources below each photo, the links don't display properly and are only viewable by going into edit mode in the wiki. I hope the art team will consider including them, or at least the idea of encouraging open source photography in general. Regards, Brian Fleeger - Original Message From: Ravindra Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 4:17:17 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This? I have a small suggestion to make, I have noticed that a normal Ubuntu live CD installation has at a maximum of 2 or 3 wallpapers by default while other distros such as Opensuse, Fedora, Linux Mint etc have at least 7 or 8. It would be nice if some of the art submitted at Ubuntu Art could be included also in the Live CD to give a user more choice. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
