Re: Re: Re-Installing Software

[Michael Harold]

Hi The List,
I hope you have had a Happy Mothers Day to those that are, the willbe's
and the wannabe's.

For those watching this thread:-

|What's the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
|Anjuta is in the Universe repository[1] which, IIRC, is not enabled by
|default.
|
|Cheers,
|Owen.

Thanks Owen. Tried that - sources.list is empty!

|Good point.  Mike, you can enable this in software properties.  You
|really don't want to be compiling from scratch if you can help it.
|Paul

Ya right there Paul! Especially ifn ya don't know how!

To Peter Garrett,
So many thanks for your clear, enumerated instructions that I was able
to follow precisely, then sit back and let the computer do its stuff in
its own good time. I now have Anjuta installed and working Fantastic!
(although minus 'Help' at this time)
I still have the reading to do - after a bit of a play with Anjuta!

Regards to All

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Re: evolution, address book and calendar missing

[andremangan]

>
> This is why putting information in publicly available wikis is a good
> thing, the reader gets the updates straight away.  You could even run
> your own wiki and put adsense ads on it if you wanted get something back
> for your efforts.
>
> Emailing PDFs for documentation is so dated :)


So am I.

I understand your point  however, only five people asked for a copy.


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Re: evolution, address book and calendar missing

[Dave Hall]

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 15:04 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sebastian, it looks like you used the first copy of the HowTo I sent
> to you.
> 
> That copy was flawed because Open Office had enabled by default a
> "feature" that shifted any text to the left if followed by a space or
> a tab therefore making double hyphens appear as a long single hyphen.
> 
> Hence, a second amended copy of the HowTo was sent out on the
> following day to all those, including you, who had initially requested
> one, including a brief explanation.  In the second copy the hyphens
> are easily recognised.

This is why putting information in publicly available wikis is a good
thing, the reader gets the updates straight away.  You could even run
your own wiki and put adsense ads on it if you wanted get something back
for your efforts.

Emailing PDFs for documentation is so dated :)

Cheers

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Re: evolution, address book and calendar missing

[andremangan]

Sebastian, it looks like you used the first copy of the HowTo I sent to you.

That copy was flawed because Open Office had enabled by default a "feature"
that shifted any text to the left if followed by a space or a tab therefore
making double hyphens appear as a long single hyphen.

Hence, a second amended copy of the HowTo was sent out on the following day
to all those, including you, who had initially requested one, including a
brief explanation.  In the second copy the hyphens are easily recognised.
.
The command to shut down evolution should read "evolution --force-shutdown.

The HowTo, as I sent it, works very well.

If you would like another copy just yell (18.6KB pdf).


For those who come across this "feature" in Writer and have no use for it,
you can turn it off by going into Tools, Autocorrect, Options tab and remove
the two ticks next to "replace dashes".

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evolution, address book and calendar missing

[Sebastian Spiess]

hi all,

before I updated to hardy (clean install) I made a backup of my hole home drive 
using sbackup.

now I want to get my settings back into evolution. I use evolution mainly as a 
address book and a calendar.

by now I did the following
1 started evolution and went through the first setup assistant
2 shut-down evolution using evolution –force-shutdown
3 copy the following folders to the new home dir:
   1.  ~/.evolution/
   2.  ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/
   3.  ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution

3 started evolution again, it looked like some things where there some not.


e.g. I had multiple address books and calendars but only the "Personal" ones are reinstated although I copied everything to 
my new home.


I don't get it, why is it s simple with firefox and thunderbird and many 
other apps but evolution not?


anyone help. I tried to import them but evolution would not accept the db file for importing. Do I have to update a file, 
change a config line...?


thanks sebastian
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Re: Errors trying to upgrade from GG to HH Ubuntu.

[James Takac]

On Sunday 11 May 2008 06:48:30 Daniel Mons wrote:
> ==Sebastian Spiess wrote:
> > I did a clean install and everything went smooth but when I started
> > installing all the stuff missing I had problems with the AU mirror as
> > well. I ended up switching quite often, but this could have something to
> > do with the "others" upgrading... good to hear that it worked for you.
> >
> > I am now back to the AU mirror, all is fine so far. keep the traffic on
> > the continent :-)
>
> Some general comments on APT mirrors, ISPs, and sources.list config from
> a Debian veteran of 7 years, and an Ubuntu user for 2 years now:
>
> au.archive.ubunut.com is hosted by Optus:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig au.archive.ubuntu.com
> *snip*
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> au.archive.ubuntu.com.600 IN  CNAME   mirror.optus.net.
> mirror.optus.net. 86400   IN  A   211.29.132.173
>
> Now I don't intend this to be a "crap on Optus" session.  Optus
> generously host Ubuntu's au mirror as well as the primary au mirror for
> sourceforge.  But the fact of the matter is the mirrors are slow to
> respond, and seem to be heavily QoS'ed.  I completely understand why
> they do this, but sadly it makes for random brokenness when doing upgrades.
>
> In particular, the two weeks before, and up to a month after any Ubuntu
> release see these mirrors get hammered.  I honestly don't think the
> world understands just how popular Ubuntu is right now. :)
>
> My advice is to keep your mirrors pointed to your local ISP if possible.
>
> For example, I'm with iiNet, and my /etc/apt/sources.list looks like (4
> lines, each one long line - ignore the line break enforced by email):
>
> deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy main multiverse restricted
> universe
> deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-updates main multiverse
> restricted universe
> deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-backports main multiverse
> restricted universe
> deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-security main multiverse
> restricted universe
>
> So there's deb repos for hardy, hardy-updates, hardy-backports
> (optional), and hardy-security for the main, multiverse, universe and
> restricted sections.
>
> Many ISPs provide mirrors.  Internode are another I have regular
> dealings with that provide full Ubuntu mirrors.  If you are on any one
> of the PIPE Networks ISPs, PIPE host their Pacific Mirror site, which
> can be accessed free of charge (ie: not counting towards quota) for PIPE
> users (iiNet, Internode, Westnet, AAPT, Swiftel, and many others):
>
> deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu hardy main universe
> multiverse restricted
>
> ... and so on for the other repos.
>
> If in doubt, ring your ISP and ask.  It's within the best interests of
> an ISP to host local mirrors of heavily used traffic.  It saves them
> money, and means they can deliver a high quality of service to their
> customers.  For you as a user, it means being able to perform mass
> upgrades for convenience and/or security without eating into your
> monthly download quota or getting dreaded "404 not found" errors.
>
> Remember too that you can have multiple mirrors in your sources.list,
> which will be tried in order.  Put your own ISP at the top of the list,
> and au.archive at the bottom of the list.  If your ISP is slow to update
> and is missing a package, APT will fall back to au.archive.  There's no
> rule saying you must only have one mirror in your list.  The only
> downside is that running an "apt-get update" (package refresh) can take
> a while if you have a long sources.list, but it's a small price to pay
> to ensure you get the packages you need during an normal package
> upgrade, or during an entire distro upgrade.
>
> -Dan


Hi Dan

Interestingly enuf the whole thing resolved by removing the last part of the 
second line in my etc/hoats file, e.g. it read 127.0.1.1 
localhost.p3nn-desktop.network_name

I dropped the network_name at the end at all worked fine again

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Re: hardy and synaptic prob

[William Grant]

James Takac wrote:
> Hi Guys
> 
> A slight update on this as well. Also tried using apt-get, e.g.
> 
> sudo apt-get install webhttrack
> 
> and got the following error
> 
> sudo: unable to resolve host p3nn-desktop

Try the instructions at http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4480244.

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Re: hardy and synaptic prob

[Daniel Mons]

James Takac wrote:
> Hi Guys
> 
> A slight update on this as well. Also tried using apt-get, e.g.
> 
> sudo apt-get install webhttrack
> 
> and got the following error
> 
> sudo: unable to resolve host p3nn-desktop
> 

That sounds like a DNS client error on your machine.

Check to make sure that your /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to a DNS 
server you can access, and that your /etc/apt/sources.list contains 
locations you can access properly (trying pinging them, or bringing them 
up in a web browser).

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re: hardy and synaptic prob

[James Takac]

Hi Guys

A slight update on this as well. Also tried using apt-get, e.g.

sudo apt-get install webhttrack

and got the following error

sudo: unable to resolve host p3nn-desktop

James

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Subject: hardy and synaptic prob
Date: Sunday 11 May 2008
From: James Takac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Guys

I just did a distribution upgrade on one of my pc's from gutsy to hardy and 
all seemed to be fine until I tried to start synaptic package manager. I 
can't seem to get it going at all either from the menu or via terminal typing

gksu synaptic

if I type synaptic on its own it runs but I can't install anything. Is this 
likely a messed up permissions problem?

James

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Re: Errors trying to upgrade from GG to HH Ubuntu.

[Dave Hall]

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 06:48 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote:
> 
> ==Sebastian Spiess wrote:
> 
> > I did a clean install and everything went smooth but when I started
> installing all the stuff missing I had problems with 
> > the AU mirror as well. I ended up switching quite often, but this
> could have something to do with the "others" upgrading... 
> > good to hear that it worked for you.
> > 
> > I am now back to the AU mirror, all is fine so far. keep the traffic
> on the continent :-)
> 
> Some general comments on APT mirrors, ISPs, and sources.list config
> from 
> a Debian veteran of 7 years, and an Ubuntu user for 2 years now:
> 
> au.archive.ubunut.com is hosted by Optus:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig au.archive.ubuntu.com
> *snip*
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> au.archive.ubuntu.com.600 IN  CNAME   mirror.optus.net.
> mirror.optus.net. 86400   IN  A   211.29.132.173
> 
> Now I don't intend this to be a "crap on Optus" session.  Optus 
> generously host Ubuntu's au mirror as well as the primary au mirror
> for 
> sourceforge.  But the fact of the matter is the mirrors are slow to 
> respond, and seem to be heavily QoS'ed.  I completely understand why 
> they do this, but sadly it makes for random brokenness when doing
> upgrades.

You will find that your ISP would prefer that you use a US mirror than
Optus' mirror.  Optus and Telstra charge very high fees for other ISPs
to access their networks.  I can't find the thread on Whingepool, but I
remember reading a post from Simon Hackett at Internode some years ago.

Basically the costs go like this (cheapest to most expensive)
On ISP's own network
AU -> US
ISP -> PIPE/WAIX/Other Peered ISP networks
ISP -> Optus/Telstra networks

So if you ISP offers a mirror use it, if you need a backup, use one in
the US.

If you ISP doesn't use offer a local mirror, either change ISPs or use
the Optus mirror so they feel it in the bottom line :)

For the record, when at home all of my debs come unmetered from the
internode mirror.

Cheers

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hardy and synaptic prob

[James Takac]

Hi Guys

I just did a distribution upgrade on one of my pc's from gutsy to hardy and 
all seemed to be fine until I tried to start synaptic package manager. I 
can't seem to get it going at all either from the menu or via terminal typing

gksu synaptic

if I type synaptic on its own it runs but I can't install anything. Is this 
likely a messed up permissions problem?

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Re: Errors trying to upgrade from GG to HH Ubuntu.

[Daniel Mons]

==Sebastian Spiess wrote:

> I did a clean install and everything went smooth but when I started 
> installing all the stuff missing I had problems with 
> the AU mirror as well. I ended up switching quite often, but this could have 
> something to do with the "others" upgrading... 
> good to hear that it worked for you.
> 
> I am now back to the AU mirror, all is fine so far. keep the traffic on the 
> continent :-)

Some general comments on APT mirrors, ISPs, and sources.list config from 
a Debian veteran of 7 years, and an Ubuntu user for 2 years now:

au.archive.ubunut.com is hosted by Optus:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig au.archive.ubuntu.com
*snip*
;; ANSWER SECTION:
au.archive.ubuntu.com.  600 IN  CNAME   mirror.optus.net.
mirror.optus.net.   86400   IN  A   211.29.132.173

Now I don't intend this to be a "crap on Optus" session.  Optus 
generously host Ubuntu's au mirror as well as the primary au mirror for 
sourceforge.  But the fact of the matter is the mirrors are slow to 
respond, and seem to be heavily QoS'ed.  I completely understand why 
they do this, but sadly it makes for random brokenness when doing upgrades.

In particular, the two weeks before, and up to a month after any Ubuntu 
release see these mirrors get hammered.  I honestly don't think the 
world understands just how popular Ubuntu is right now. :)

My advice is to keep your mirrors pointed to your local ISP if possible.

For example, I'm with iiNet, and my /etc/apt/sources.list looks like (4 
lines, each one long line - ignore the line break enforced by email):

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy main multiverse restricted 
universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-updates main multiverse 
restricted universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-backports main multiverse 
restricted universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-security main multiverse 
restricted universe

So there's deb repos for hardy, hardy-updates, hardy-backports 
(optional), and hardy-security for the main, multiverse, universe and 
restricted sections.

Many ISPs provide mirrors.  Internode are another I have regular 
dealings with that provide full Ubuntu mirrors.  If you are on any one 
of the PIPE Networks ISPs, PIPE host their Pacific Mirror site, which 
can be accessed free of charge (ie: not counting towards quota) for PIPE 
users (iiNet, Internode, Westnet, AAPT, Swiftel, and many others):

deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu hardy main universe 
multiverse restricted

... and so on for the other repos.

If in doubt, ring your ISP and ask.  It's within the best interests of 
an ISP to host local mirrors of heavily used traffic.  It saves them 
money, and means they can deliver a high quality of service to their 
customers.  For you as a user, it means being able to perform mass 
upgrades for convenience and/or security without eating into your 
monthly download quota or getting dreaded "404 not found" errors.

Remember too that you can have multiple mirrors in your sources.list, 
which will be tried in order.  Put your own ISP at the top of the list, 
and au.archive at the bottom of the list.  If your ISP is slow to update 
and is missing a package, APT will fall back to au.archive.  There's no 
rule saying you must only have one mirror in your list.  The only 
downside is that running an "apt-get update" (package refresh) can take 
a while if you have a long sources.list, but it's a small price to pay 
to ensure you get the packages you need during an normal package 
upgrade, or during an entire distro upgrade.

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Re: Errors trying to upgrade from GG to HH Ubuntu.

[Sebastian Spiess]

Peter Williams wrote:
> Hi Paul & All,
> 
> 2008/5/7 Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> 
> Peter Williams wrote:
>  > ...
>  > > Failed to fetch
>  > >
>  >
> 
> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/neon26/libneon26_0.26.4-2_i386.deb403
>  > > Forbidden
>  > >
>  > > Am I doing something wrong or is the
> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com
>  > missing
>  > > some critical files needed for the upgrade???
>  >
>  > Sounds like an administration permissions error on that
> mirror.  Try
>  > switching to a different one like iiNet.
>  >
>  >
>  > Can you step me through the changes that I need to make to do
> that. What
>  > do I change and what is the new info to change it to? Sorry if this
>  > seems obvious to you, but I'm still only a newbie at Ubuntu.
> 
> Keep it on the list, please...  :-)
> 
> (Assuming Ubuntu, not Kubuntu or Xubuntu.)
> 
> 1. Open System -> Administration -> Software Sources
> 2. Enter your password when prompted
> 3. Choose Download from -> Other -> Australia -> (your choice of the
> other mirrors; don't pick Optus - it is the default server for
> Australia.)
> 4. Close the window.  It will probably ask you to update the repository
> data then.  Select yes.
> 5. Try starting your upgrade again through System -> Administration ->
> Update Manager.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help, Paul. I made the changes you suggested and the 
> upgrade installed without a hitch. I'm now the proud owner of a Ubuntu 
> HH system.
>  
> 
> 
> Paul
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I did a clean install and everything went smooth but when I started installing 
all the stuff missing I had problems with 
the AU mirror as well. I ended up switching quite often, but this could have 
something to do with the "others" upgrading... 
good to hear that it worked for you.

I am now back to the AU mirror, all is fine so far. keep the traffic on the 
continent :-)

seb


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