Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Simon Ives wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > There is one other application, added by default, under "exclude_class" in > "gconf-editor /apps/maximus" which is Totem media player - listed as "Totem". > > I added "VLC" to "exclude_class" and it still starts up maximised with > Maximus. > > I ran: > > $ xprop | grep WM_CLASS > > and clicked the VLC window and it seems VLC is one of those apps that doesn't > set this property as the result was: > > WM_CLASS(STRING) = "", "" > > It's not such a big deal, at least I now know how to adjust the settings for > other apps. > > Thanks again. > This sounds a lot like a bug that should be raised against the VLC package in Ubuntu -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:49:06 +1000 David Whyte wrote: > 2009/4/2 : > > Actually - just realised that maximus my be checking the 'WM_CLASS' setting. > > You can find that by running "xprop | grep WM_CLASS" but not all > > applications set that xproperty > > > > > > These are the instructions that I got from the developer when Eclipse > was doing the same thing (on its splash screen): > > "Hmm, it seems it doesn't set the correct window_type hint hence maximus > doens't know that it's a splashscreen. > > Can you please run > > $ xprop | grep WM_CLASS > > in a terminal,click on the splashscreen and then paste the output here > please. > > It is a bit tricky to do this due to the distinct lack of space on the > screen, so I normally: > > - Set the terminal window to be "Above all windows" > - Run the command in the terminal > - Alt+F2 and type in prgram name > - click on the splashscreen > > Thanks. > " > > Just do the same, but for VLC I guess. > > Cheers, > Whytey Thanks for the suggestions. There is one other application, added by default, under "exclude_class" in "gconf-editor /apps/maximus" which is Totem media player - listed as "Totem". I added "VLC" to "exclude_class" and it still starts up maximised with Maximus. I ran: $ xprop | grep WM_CLASS and clicked the VLC window and it seems VLC is one of those apps that doesn't set this property as the result was: WM_CLASS(STRING) = "", "" It's not such a big deal, at least I now know how to adjust the settings for other apps. Thanks again. -- SIMON IVES Consulting, advocacy & innovation for non-profit and non-government organisations. - Please consider the environment before printing this email or any attachments. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing 8.04 on sata drives prob
Hi Paul On Friday 03 April 2009 06:57:26 Paul Gear wrote: > James Takac wrote: > > ... > > > >> Check that the BIOS setting is AHCI on the SATA drives. It sounds like > >> it's in ATA emulation mode. > >> > >> Paul > > > > The Bios seems to have a Compatibility mode and an Enhanced mode re the > > ide ports which below that can be set to S-ata, P-ata, or S-ata + P-ata. > > Setting to compatibility mode sets the 3rd by default which I'm trying > > now. I swore I saw settings earlier re the DMA's and such but that may > > have been another pc I worked on the other day > > That sounds like the problem. You definitely don't want compatibility > mode. > > Paul I tried compatibility mode last night cuz in enhanced mode I was having the probs. Enhanced mode sets to S-ata by default. I find I'm having the same probs both ways, i.e. it gets thru the formatting of the drive just fine. It falls down with read errors when copying files to the HDD every time. Pretty much every cd and distro I tried has done the same which is what had me suspecting the pc as the culprit and the only thing different was the sata drives re other systems I've installed I've just dloaded 8.10 to see if that makes a dif as well James -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simply Backup help
Callan Davies wrote: > > I've found it works really well, but I can't say I've ever tried a restore. > I really would try that ;-) That is probably the biggest problem with backups - people find they can't restore. This could be for a variety of reasons (media, setup ...). You should be able to restore to some other area than the original. You will also have been through it before when you come to the heart flutter situation of really needing to do it ;-) Just to add another option into the mix. I've used Amanda (http://www.amanda.org/) for years. It is trickier to set up and all command line stuff. I use an external USB disk. Prior to that I used tapes. The backup does selected partitions from all machines on the network. I've pulled out individual files from backup and unfortunately had to recover an entire partition. One nice thing is that the backup format is basically a tarball with some info on the front. You can skip passed that initial info to have a normal tarball. With some backup solutions (mainly priority) you end up with some format where you need the original software. Regards ...Peter -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simply Backup help
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 11:10 +1030, Callan Davies wrote: > > Simply Backup all goes well to the point of pressing the "backup now" > > button and the "A backup run is initiated. The process id is " > > message is displayed. After that, there is no sign of activity - that I > > can see. I presume that it is working in the background. Though it > > doesn't present a time line or any other message to say where or what is > > going on. I don't know if/when it is done. > > > > 1. What do I do after the "A backup run is initiated. . . ." message? > > 2. Does it work reliably? > > 3. Is there a better product/process? > > 4. Any other comments? > > > > Hi Dave, > > I use SimpleBackups at home, plus two other networks that I manage. All > three locations have data on a NAS device, and back up the the local > machine. > > I use the 'custom' backup settings, with a full backup every 30 days. I > use logarithmic backup retention. > > Basically everything seems to work fine. > > My suggestion would be to add the system monitor applet to your panel, > and configure it to show CPU, Load and Disk. Then go to Simple Backups > and click the RUN BACKUP NOW. Hopefully you see the graphs start to do > something! > > The RUN BACKUP NOW button just starts a manual backup, which I always do > for the first run. Then I just let it run its own schedule after that. > > I've found it works really well, but I can't say I've ever tried a restore. > > One function I would love to see, is some sort of log file, log email or > on-screen notification that backups have (1) started, (2) completed, > (3) failed. > > Right now, it's possible to shut your machine down in the middle of a > backup and you'd never know until you tried to restore data that was not > there. > > Hope my comments have helped. > > Cheers > Callan > > > Me too has installed the simple backup on three machines. Backing up was set up and then left for good, what I changed was the backup location and the retention of old backups due to space issues on the notebook. I copy or burn the backup files to a DVD or a external HDD on a irregular basis (bad I know, but better than nothing I guess). I haven't used the restore function but I've used the tar-archive created by simple backup to to a complete clean system reinstall. After the install I unpacked the archive and moved stuff back where it belonged. I had one unfortunate event while using simple backup. I wanted to upgrade a xubuntu machine and ran a complete backup b4 the upgrade. All documents and settings where backed up but NOT audio and video files (e.g. mp3) as well as files larger than 100mb. So I lost a few mp3 files - but I only realised this after I repartitioned :-( currently my backups are around 1.1 GB, I don't know how large the tar files can get or if there is a split option. Hope this helps, sEb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing 8.04 on sata drives prob
James Takac wrote: > ... >> Check that the BIOS setting is AHCI on the SATA drives. It sounds like >> it's in ATA emulation mode. >> >> Paul >> > > > The Bios seems to have a Compatibility mode and an Enhanced mode re the ide > ports which below that can be set to S-ata, P-ata, or S-ata + P-ata. Setting > to compatibility mode sets the 3rd by default which I'm trying now. I swore I > saw settings earlier re the DMA's and such but that may have been another pc > I worked on the other day That sounds like the problem. You definitely don't want compatibility mode. Paul begin:vcard fn:Paul Gear n:Gear;Paul org:Liberty Systems & Software email;internet:p...@libertysys.com.au tel;work:07 3122 2198 tel;cell:04 3183 7656 url:http://libertysys.com.au/ version:2.1 end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: live vs alt install cd
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 14:04 +1000, Paul Gear wrote: > James Takac wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > Just wondering if there's a simple way to tell what systems might need the > > alternate cd to install as opposed to the live cd. I'm trying to install on > > a > > friends (hardy) which has a celeron and both hdd and optical drives are > > sata. > > The install cd is fine though it keeps throwing up errors on that system > > when > > installing. It boots fine to the desktop. I know the cd is fine cuz it was > > used to install on another of my systems later with complete success and no > > errors. I just downloaded the alternate cd and so will try that next on her > > system. Also are there other things I should look out for that may lend > > clues > > as to which cd may be needed. I know of the AMD processors for example > > > > > > The only things i know of that require the alt CD are setting up disks > for encryption, LVM, RAID, or a combination thereof. > > Paul > > I know that on a system with lower specs you can use the txt installer from the alternate to have a successful installation while the live cd installer would fail due to lack of resources. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: installing 8.04 on sata drives prob
Hi Paul On Thursday 02 April 2009 14:05:42 Paul Gear wrote: > James Takac wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > I'm having probs installing ubuntu (32 bit) on a friends pc. Have loaned > > one of mine till I sort this out. Both live and alternate cds pass the > > integrity check yet both throw up read errors during the install phase. > > Both HDD and DVD drive are sata and bios shows them both on the same ide > > interface (#3) with the HDD as master and the DVD as slave. The processor > > is a 2.4g P4 celeron. Do I need to set specific parameters for the sata > > drives in BIOS maybe? The mobo is an ASUS PSGC-MX if that also helps. I'm > > not having much luck via google but suspect the prob to be related to > > both drives being sata and/or settings for the drives. Any ideas I can > > try? > > Check that the BIOS setting is AHCI on the SATA drives. It sounds like > it's in ATA emulation mode. > > Paul The Bios seems to have a Compatibility mode and an Enhanced mode re the ide ports which below that can be set to S-ata, P-ata, or S-ata + P-ata. Setting to compatibility mode sets the 3rd by default which I'm trying now. I swore I saw settings earlier re the DMA's and such but that may have been another pc I worked on the other day James -- Now you are going to ask me how to destroy this stark awareness of your self. You might be thinking that if you destroy this sense of your self you will destroy everythingelse too and you will be right. But I will answer this fear by telling you that without a very special grace from God and without a particular aptitude on your part, you will never beable to get rid of this naked sense of self. For your part, this aptitude consists of a robust and profound sorrow of spirit.Everybody has a special reason for grief, but the person who has a deep experience of himself existing apart from God feels the most acute sorrow. Once we have aquired this sorrow it not only purifies our souls, but it takes away all the pain merited by sin and thus makes the soul capable of receivingthat joy which takes from a man all sense of his own being. If this sorrow is genuine, it is full of holy longing. Otherwise nobody could bear it. from The Cloud of Unknowing -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 : > Actually - just realised that maximus my be checking the 'WM_CLASS' setting. > You can find that by running "xprop | grep WM_CLASS" but not all > applications set that xproperty > > These are the instructions that I got from the developer when Eclipse was doing the same thing (on its splash screen): "Hmm, it seems it doesn't set the correct window_type hint hence maximus doens't know that it's a splashscreen. Can you please run $ xprop | grep WM_CLASS in a terminal,click on the splashscreen and then paste the output here please. It is a bit tricky to do this due to the distinct lack of space on the screen, so I normally: - Set the terminal window to be "Above all windows" - Run the command in the terminal - Alt+F2 and type in prgram name - click on the splashscreen Thanks. " Just do the same, but for VLC I guess. Cheers, Whytey -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 : 2009/4/2 Simon Ives : On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:18:47 +1100 Chris Debenham wrote: It's not easy, but you can set this up in gconf-editor. Run 'gconf-editor /apps/maximus' and change the value of 'exclude_class' to include the window class of whatever you want to ignore. To find out the class run 'xwininfo' and then click on the window in question - it will return with a line (among others) such as: xwininfo: Window id: 0x445 "VLC media player" In this case 'VLC media player' is probably the class you want Followed your advice and added the appropriate entry for VLC (which is "VLC media player") but the app is still starting up maximised with Maximus. Any other advice? Try adding just "VLC". Maximus does sub-string matching so that should be enough. Are there any other items in the list for exclude_class? Actually - just realised that maximus my be checking the 'WM_CLASS' setting. You can find that by running "xprop | grep WM_CLASS" but not all applications set that xproperty -- Samuel Goldwyn - "I don't think anyone should write their autobiography until after they're dead." signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Maximus
2009/4/2 Simon Ives : On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:18:47 +1100 Chris Debenham wrote: It's not easy, but you can set this up in gconf-editor. Run 'gconf-editor /apps/maximus' and change the value of 'exclude_class' to include the window class of whatever you want to ignore. To find out the class run 'xwininfo' and then click on the window in question - it will return with a line (among others) such as: xwininfo: Window id: 0x445 "VLC media player" In this case 'VLC media player' is probably the class you want Followed your advice and added the appropriate entry for VLC (which is "VLC media player") but the app is still starting up maximised with Maximus. Any other advice? Try adding just "VLC". Maximus does sub-string matching so that should be enough. Are there any other items in the list for exclude_class? -- SIMON IVES Consulting, advocacy & innovation for non-profit and non-government organisations. - Please consider the environment before printing this email or any attachments. -- Bob Hope - "You know you are getting old when the candles cost more than the cake." signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
