Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010

2010-04-19 Thread Andre Mangan
Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the coming
conference.

In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in Sydney.  Date: 8th
and 9th September, 2010.

It may be better to contact ASCCA directly:
http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html

Andre



On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin  wrote:

> Mitch.  Can you let us know when and where the conference will be held
>
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> m: 0419812371
> --
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Mitch,
>>
>> Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of
>> the local Computer Pals for Seniors group.
>>
>> A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties
>> with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist
>> him.  You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone
>> and screenshots to solve a computer problem.  Apparently a home visit was
>> indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of
>> providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
>> available to accommodate such a need.
>>
>> The problem in question was eventually resolved.
>>
>> Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals
>> for Seniors group.  I have had about 25 years of experience with computers
>> and thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services.  Even
>> then I had to argue my case.  A misunderstanding?
>>
>> Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien"
>> because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me
>> some indication of things to come.  I bit my tongue.
>>
>> As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the
>> assemblage.  This was granted.
>>
>> My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with
>> computer problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling
>> expenses  ( I am talking about country distances and country travel ).  That
>> was well received and a negotiator and person for contact was established.
>>
>> I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the
>> use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out
>> of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use.
>>
>> I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial
>> software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of
>> people who can least afford it.  One person wanted to argue that MS Word was
>> far superior to OpenOffice.org.  I pointed out that I had not come to argue
>> any case for or against.
>> Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and
>> generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.  Unfortunately
>> there was no hot-spot for internet.
>>
>> The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS
>> has given them licences for all their software at almost no cost.  Another
>> factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to
>> them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with
>> Windows.
>>
>> Will I go to the next meeting?  You can bet on it.
>>
>> I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual
>> Conference in September.
>>
>> I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present)
>> Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the
>> back foot.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner wrote:
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>  I received some more information today regarding the 2010
>>> ASCCA
>>> Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the
>>> conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand
>>> scale" type of thing as I initially thought.
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at
>>> this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public
>>> speaker. However I am very keen to help organise a presentation at this
>>> conference as I believe that it would be a perfect opportunity to help
>>> promote Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Mitch (kermiac on IRC)
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Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Martin
Mitch.  Can you let us know when and where the conference will be held

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan  wrote:

>
> Hello Mitch,
>
> Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of
> the local Computer Pals for Seniors group.
>
> A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties
> with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist
> him.  You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone
> and screenshots to solve a computer problem.  Apparently a home visit was
> indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of
> providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
> available to accommodate such a need.
>
> The problem in question was eventually resolved.
>
> Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals
> for Seniors group.  I have had about 25 years of experience with computers
> and thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services.  Even
> then I had to argue my case.  A misunderstanding?
>
> Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien"
> because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me
> some indication of things to come.  I bit my tongue.
>
> As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the
> assemblage.  This was granted.
>
> My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with
> computer problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling
> expenses  ( I am talking about country distances and country travel ).  That
> was well received and a negotiator and person for contact was established.
>
> I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the
> use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out
> of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use.
>
> I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial
> software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of
> people who can least afford it.  One person wanted to argue that MS Word was
> far superior to OpenOffice.org.  I pointed out that I had not come to argue
> any case for or against.
> Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and
> generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.  Unfortunately
> there was no hot-spot for internet.
>
> The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS
> has given them licences for all their software at almost no cost.  Another
> factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to
> them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with
> Windows.
>
> Will I go to the next meeting?  You can bet on it.
>
> I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual
> Conference in September.
>
> I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present)
> Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the
> back foot.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>  I received some more information today regarding the 2010
>> ASCCA
>> Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the
>> conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand
>> scale" type of thing as I initially thought.
>>
>> Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at
>> this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public
>> speaker. However I am very keen to help organise a presentation at this
>> conference as I believe that it would be a perfect opportunity to help
>> promote Ubuntu.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Mitch (kermiac on IRC)
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
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Re: question re mobile internet connection

2010-04-19 Thread richardmalter
Hey everyone,
Thanks for all the replies and support.

Its a mobile internet connection via USB next G bigpond 7.2.

>From what I read from all your suggestions, I think it is probably best I
wait a week till 10.04 stable is released and I upgrade, then I try again,
and possibly use wvdial if network-manager still has a problem with it.

I will report back anon. Thanks again.

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Re: Re-approval application for Ubuntu-Au

2010-04-19 Thread Laura Czajkowski
On 18/04/10 13:45, Melissa Draper wrote:
> Greetings LoCo Council,
>
> Please accept this email as our attendance for our re-approval meeting
> as per discussion with Laura and Alan. The Australian Team Mailing List
> is copied in so that they may be involved in this process. Our
> re-approval application wiki page is
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Re-Approval
>
> We have an active mailing list of over 300 people and two IRC channels
> #ubuntu-au for support and the unlogged #ubuntu-au-chat for, well, chat.
>
> We don't hold IRC meetings often as there's often a lack of agenda. We
> held one last month and will probably hold one again in the next few
> weeks to discuss the roadmap below and other issues that need discussing
> as per the mailing list.
>
> We were initially approved 4 years ago in 2006. 2006 was our most
> formative year as is shown on the wiki. 2007 and 2008 followed with
> release parties and conference-oriented events.
>
> 2009 was a quiet year, with several events (Education Expo and
> OpenCeBIT) we participated in previously not being run due to the Global
> Financial Crisis. It was socially a fruitful year though, with Paul Gear
> and myself meeting representatives from the Malaysian LoCo.
>
> So far in 2010, we've run a small expo booth at the annual linux.conf.au
> conference (amusingly held in New Zealand, we donate the conf to them
> occasionally) and a group of Brisbane people have had a face-to-face
> gathering.
>
> Our 2010 Planned marketing activities include:
> * Software Freedom Day 2010, various events. Adelaide already being
> planned
> * Would like to organise a promotion to Ubuntu to 1st Year Computer
> Science students at University of South Australia, Mawson Lakes Campus.
> * Education expo in various cities
> * OpenCeBIT (Late may)
>
> Release parties planned for Lucid include:
> * 2010-05-08 - Brisbane: Lucid Release
> * TBD - Adelaide: A release party is being organised, we are trying to
> organize a venue. we will try and work with the Adelaide hacker space
> * TBD - Hobart Lucid Lynx release party
> * Some members of the team offer to send free burned copies of Ubuntu
> 10.04 to those requesting them following the Lucid release.
>
> We even already have some 2011 (very tentatively) planned activities
> * We will once again man Ubuntu booth at Linux.Conf.Au in Brisbane
> (Mid-Jan)
> * Looking to organise a booth together with 'Linux Australia', at the
> Education Expo 2011 (Adelaide and Sydney).
>
>
Thank you for your application, the LoCo council have received your re 
approval application. We will review it and get back to you with any 
queries if we have any.

Regards

Laura Czajkowski on behalf of the Ubuntu LoCo Council

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Re: Medibuntu

2010-04-19 Thread Mitch Towner
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On 19/04/10 01:42, Jared Norris wrote:
> Simon,
> 
> Same here, might be related to an update for Lucid or something? I have only
> just noticed it tonight so in my experience waiting a until morning usually
> solves the problem. It might be syncing or something at the moment. Well
> that's my plan anyway, if anyone else has any information they'd like to
> share?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jared Norris
> 
> 
> On 19 April 2010 01:38, Simon Ives  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm having difficulty connecting to medibuntu via apt tonight and was
>> wondering if anyone else is having the same issue or whether I should start
>> troubleshooting elsewhere?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Simon Ives.
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Hi Simon, Jared & the rest of the list,
I can confirm that the packages.medibuntu.org is down & will probably
remain that way until at least Wednesday or Thursday. Only the front-end
is down, so you can add a temporary entry in your /etc/hosts pointing to
the medibuntu back-end until the front-end (packages.medibuntu.org) is
back online in a few days.

I will outline this process step-by-step for any who may be experiencing
this issue & are not familiar with the process.

To add this temporary entry to your hosts file simply do the following:
1. Open a terminal window

2. Type "sudo gedit /etc/hosts" (without the quotes) & press enter. This
will display your hosts file.

3. Add "88.191.101.8packages.medibuntu.org" (without the quotes) to
a new line in your hosts file.

4. Save & close your hosts file.

5. Reload/ refresh your package list by typing "sudo apt-get update"
(without the quotes) from a terminal window or by opening Update Manager
& clicking on the "check" button.

You should now be able to access packages from the medibuntu repository.
Please note that you should remove this temporary entry in a few days
after the medibuntu front-end issue has been resolved.

You can monitor this issue at the following bug report to find out when
this issue has been resolved. Please do not add unnecessary noise to the
bug report. If you wish to show that this issue also affects you, please
use the "Does this bug affect you" facility at the top of the bug
report. The medibuntu maintainer is aware of the issue & the issue is
currently being worked on.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810

I will also send an update to this list once the front-end is back up to
remind anyone who has performed this temporary work-around to delete
this entry from their /etc/hosts file.

Mitch Towner
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Re: Standard Document Formats

2010-04-19 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 22:25 +1000, Simon Ives wrote:

> 
> I would like to know if anyone on this list is aware of any, however
> obscure, QLD State government policy that deals with electronic
> document formats.

I had a good poke around http://www.qgcio.qld.gov.au/ and couldn't find
anything.  There is policies on procurement of FOSS based solutions, but
not file formats.  I also noticed that the site is full of MS Word
documents, so I really doubt you will find a policy document to help you
on this one.

One thing to watch for too is that people will claim that OOXML is an
ISO standard, which it is, but not even MS Office complies with the
adopted standard.

Cheers

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Standard Document Formats

2010-04-19 Thread Simon Ives
Hi all.

I've been engaged in writing a number of funding submissions for Skilling
Queenslanders for Work and Productivity Places Program funding over the past
month or so and have been in discussion with Queensland's Department of
Employment, Economic Development & Innovation about their Funding Toolkits.
These consist of MS Office documents in .doc and .xls formats that are
heavily customised.  None of the documents that I have had the oppurtunity
to use have functioned correctly in Open Office and the saved documents from
Open Office don't display correctly in MS Office meaning that having an MS
Office licence and proprietry operating system are the only way to
effectively complete the funding applications.

I would like to know if anyone on this list is aware of any, however
obscure, QLD State government policy that deals with electronic document
formats.

The documents can be found at the following URL for anyone interested ->
http://www.employment.qld.gov.au/providers/toolkit/index.htm

Regards.

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Re: media centre build

2010-04-19 Thread Christopher Lees
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:40 +0100, Hugh Do Nascimento wrote:

> From: Hugo Do Nascimento 
> Subject: Re: media centre build
> To: bryn mitchell 
> Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I also was thinking about building a media center with linux or buying a mac
> mini. At the end, a friend showed me a WDTV.
> It costs about U$100, runs linux inside and does not demand much energy. I
> bought one and I am using it with an external USB HD.

There are many similar devices. I have an Astone device; it has a couple
of USB ports, plus an Ethernet port for streaming media from your
computer (through Samba) and even the ability to accept an Astone wifi
dongle in case you don't have a free Ethernet port. Oh; and you can use
it as a NAS as well.

Good device, and you can often find one for $130 Australian. Oh, and if
you like hacking your devices, you won't be disappointed as there are
many homegrown mods and new firmware for it.


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Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010

2010-04-19 Thread Andre Mangan
Hello Mitch,

Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of the
local Computer Pals for Seniors group.

A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties
with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist
him.  You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone
and screenshots to solve a computer problem.  Apparently a home visit was
indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of
providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
available to accommodate such a need.

The problem in question was eventually resolved.

Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals for
Seniors group.  I have had about 25 years of experience with computers and
thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services.  Even then I
had to argue my case.  A misunderstanding?

Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien"
because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me
some indication of things to come.  I bit my tongue.

As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the
assemblage.  This was granted.

My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with computer
problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling expenses
( I am talking about country distances and country travel ).  That was well
received and a negotiator and person for contact was established.

I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the
use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out
of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use.

I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial
software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of
people who can least afford it.  One person wanted to argue that MS Word was
far superior to OpenOffice.org.  I pointed out that I had not come to argue
any case for or against.
Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and
generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.  Unfortunately
there was no hot-spot for internet.

The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS has
given them licences for all their software at almost no cost.  Another
factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to
them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with
Windows.

Will I go to the next meeting?  You can bet on it.

I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual
Conference in September.

I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present)
Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the
back foot.

Good Luck.

Andre





On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi Everyone,
>  I received some more information today regarding the 2010
> ASCCA
> Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the
> conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand
> scale" type of thing as I initially thought.
>
> Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at
> this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public
> speaker. However I am very keen to help organise a presentation at this
> conference as I believe that it would be a perfect opportunity to help
> promote Ubuntu.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Mitch (kermiac on IRC)
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