Re: RAID software raid... confusion easy ubuntu method ?
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Gabriel Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 18:32 +1100, Les Gray wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 07.02.2008, 16:45 +1100 schrieb Gabriel Noronha: > > > Aside question since every 2nd new motherboard these days ships with > > > "RAID" why is it so hard to set it up on Ubuntu. This is not hardware RAID at all, it's just cheap software RAID on a chip. The RAID logic is passed onto a proprietary driver that runs off you CPU. Why anyone would trust their data to a cheap proprietary piece of kit is beyond me. > > You don't have to use the RAID if you don't want to. I have 2 SATA disks > > in my desktop and I just disabled the RAID ROM in the BIOS. The disks > > just run as 2 separate, 'ordinary' SATA drives. > > I Installed my raid system it works very happy with it > > i also wrote https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID > since there was nothing in the wiki. The answer to what I wrote above is Linux Software RAID, as Gabriel's HOWTO explains. It's tried and proven, has good recovery tools, and doesn't keep your data dependent upon a proprietary hardware/driver combination. -- "If you set a man by a fire, you keep him warm all day, but set a man on fire and you keep him warm the rest of his life." - Terry Pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: RAID software raid... confusion easy ubuntu method ?
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 18:32 +1100, Les Gray wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 07.02.2008, 16:45 +1100 schrieb Gabriel Noronha: > > > > Is there a linux software raid which is nicer than the one which has to > > work with windows ? > > Yes. There are a few good howtos out there. I found this one on the > Ubuntu forums - > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461&highlight=raid+howto > > I've never used RAID myself, though, because I don't think it makes much > sense in the home user setting. It just adds another layer of complexity > to your system that could be a source of problems, while offering little > in the way of extra performance. > > > 2nd question will installing 64bit ubuntu make vmware more buggy ? > > Quite the opposite, I would have thought. One of the things that the > 64-bit environment has over the 32-bit is that it's supposed to make > virtualisation perform better. > > Running 64-bit Ubuntu brings its own problems, though, especially when > it comes to software compatibility. I installed 64-bit during the Edgy > release cycle and found that you need to go through a lot of workarounds > to get things like browser plugins and some multimedia codecs to work > properly. This is because a lot of this software is not available in > 64-bit versions or, if it is, it lacks important functionality. > > In the end I thought the extra effort wasn't worth it and went back to > 32-bit, where 99% of home users are, anyway. You might think differently > if you do lots of media encoding or other CPU-intensive tasks or you > need to address more than 64GB of RAM. > > btw, when I can get around to it I'm going to install WinXP in a VM > using Virtualbox, which is supposed to be easier to set up than vmware. > > > Aside question since every 2nd new motherboard these days ships with > > "RAID" why is it so hard to set it up on Ubuntu. > > You don't have to use the RAID if you don't want to. I have 2 SATA disks > in my desktop and I just disabled the RAID ROM in the BIOS. The disks > just run as 2 separate, 'ordinary' SATA drives. > > I Installed my raid system it works very happy with it i also wrote https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID since there was nothing in the wiki. Gab -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: RAID software raid... confusion easy ubuntu method ?
Hi Cary On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 16:09 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > Gabriel, > I found a site with some great information I have attached a pdf with my > cheat sheet that works a treat! Rather than bloat your message by almost 150kb, you could have just posted a link to the page - http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/ and those who are interested can view/print/save it. The rest of us can just delete/keep a sub 10kb message. Keep in mind, not everyone has ADSL 2+ :) Cheers Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: RAID software raid... confusion easy ubuntu method ?
Am Donnerstag, den 07.02.2008, 16:45 +1100 schrieb Gabriel Noronha: > Is there a linux software raid which is nicer than the one which has to > work with windows ? Yes. There are a few good howtos out there. I found this one on the Ubuntu forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461&highlight=raid+howto I've never used RAID myself, though, because I don't think it makes much sense in the home user setting. It just adds another layer of complexity to your system that could be a source of problems, while offering little in the way of extra performance. > 2nd question will installing 64bit ubuntu make vmware more buggy ? Quite the opposite, I would have thought. One of the things that the 64-bit environment has over the 32-bit is that it's supposed to make virtualisation perform better. Running 64-bit Ubuntu brings its own problems, though, especially when it comes to software compatibility. I installed 64-bit during the Edgy release cycle and found that you need to go through a lot of workarounds to get things like browser plugins and some multimedia codecs to work properly. This is because a lot of this software is not available in 64-bit versions or, if it is, it lacks important functionality. In the end I thought the extra effort wasn't worth it and went back to 32-bit, where 99% of home users are, anyway. You might think differently if you do lots of media encoding or other CPU-intensive tasks or you need to address more than 64GB of RAM. btw, when I can get around to it I'm going to install WinXP in a VM using Virtualbox, which is supposed to be easier to set up than vmware. > Aside question since every 2nd new motherboard these days ships with > "RAID" why is it so hard to set it up on Ubuntu. You don't have to use the RAID if you don't want to. I have 2 SATA disks in my desktop and I just disabled the RAID ROM in the BIOS. The disks just run as 2 separate, 'ordinary' SATA drives. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
RAID software raid... confusion easy ubuntu method ?
A New computer arrived today. What i want do to with it ? use the 2 x 500 GB drives in RAID 1 to have a ubuntu desktop install and vmware, which will contain a windows 2000 install to support old legacy software. Need help with: RAID and should i 64 bit or not. The Motherboard is a giga-byte GA-P35-DS3P [0] which contains a Intel ICH9R RAID controller, i didn't really know about software RAID when i brought it and thought intel good they support linux and Phoronix [1] gave it 9/10 in a review it all must work Ok i've discovered it's a software raid... and what that means... (poor linux support) The software raid seems horrible, and I'm not sure where to go from now on ? What are my options for getting a RAID1 set up keeping in mind i actually *only* want Ubuntu on this machine ? Is there a linux software raid which is nicer than the one which has to work with windows ? 2nd question will installing 64bit ubuntu make vmware more buggy ? Aside question since every 2nd new motherboard these days ships with "RAID" why is it so hard to set it up on Ubuntu. Gabriel [0] http://www.giga-byte.com.au/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2630 [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=832&num=1 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
