Outlook Express [WAS: Re: EeePC]
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, "Chris Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft. > It's > just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially > the same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in > functionality. Windows Mail is a different application, and it only runs on Windows Vista. Microsoft have already told users of Outlook Express that they will no longer be supported. Their only upgrade path within the MS space is to upgrade their whole OS to Vista so that they can get Windows Mail (I'm not counting Live Mail, as it's a Web app). It sounds like a bit much to have to upgrade your whole OS just to get a new mail client. The obvious solution is to move to Thunderbird instead :) -- "People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing." - Microsoft Senior Vice President Craig Mundie, 2002-02-20 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: EeePC
From: "martin fricke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: EeePC To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft. > It's > just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially > the same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in > functionality. > Just some information for those who may not be aware. > > Chris Jones >>Outlook Express and it's replacement for Vista Windows Mail has ceased development long ago. Microsoft's >>replacement for both apps is Windows Live Mail and can be installed on XP or Vista. You are right Martin and my apologies. Although, Windows Live Mail is under heavy development at current by the same development team that brought Vista Windows Mail. And knowing Microsoft's old (well-known) habits of reusing old source code, I suspect Windows Live Mail for the desktop will be built on the same foundations of Windows Mail anyway. So I don't think the end result will differ much anyway. Just a few different functions and UI tweaks. Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: EeePC
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:45:58 +1000, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft. > It's > just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially the > same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in > functionality. > Just some information for those who may not be aware. > > Chris Jones Outlook Express and it's replacement for Vista Windows Mail has ceased development long ago. Microsoft's relacement for both apps is Windows Live Mail and can be installed on XP or Vista. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: EeePC
>>I would strongly suggest that you use a better mail client. Outlook >>Express has many flaws, and it isn't even being developed by Microsoft >>any more. Actually, this information isn't entirely correct. Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft. It's just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially the same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in functionality. Just some information for those who may not be aware. Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
Am Freitag, den 25.01.2008, 13:44 +1100 schrieb Blindraven: > What about the Ipod touch? Now that really is too small, plus I think you'd have too much of a hard time getting other OSes onto it, assuming that's even possible. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
What about it? -- On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:44:41 +1000, Blindraven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about the Ipod touch? -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
What about the Ipod touch? On Jan 25, 2008 1:27 PM, martin fricke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:06:13 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Les Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The eeePC screen res is 800x480, on a 7" screen. It's small, but that's > >> the nature of this device - a portable computer that's even more > >> portable than a laptop. > >> > >> Not long ago I heard a rumour (can't remember where) that there was > >> going to be a model with a 10" screen, but that the idea was scrapped > >> due to the extra power requirements which would reduce the battery life > >> to an unacceptably low level. > > > > A 10 inch version has been announced by Asus. I would assume that being > > larger, it can hold a bigger battery. > > The larger 10" version may not be that much larger in dimensions than the > 7" version if they move the speakers and make better use of the > potentially available screen space. > > Interestingly ASUS already have a 11" notebook in their product range > although way more pricey. > > 4GB of flash disk space is just too small. I'll wait for the 10" version > that should have at least double the disk space, even if it costs a couple > hundred dollars more it'll be worth it. > > Are there any specs released on the new 10" version? > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- When one burns ones bridges, what a very nice fire it makes. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:06:13 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Les Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The eeePC screen res is 800x480, on a 7" screen. It's small, but that's >> the nature of this device - a portable computer that's even more >> portable than a laptop. >> >> Not long ago I heard a rumour (can't remember where) that there was >> going to be a model with a 10" screen, but that the idea was scrapped >> due to the extra power requirements which would reduce the battery life >> to an unacceptably low level. > > A 10 inch version has been announced by Asus. I would assume that being > larger, it can hold a bigger battery. The larger 10" version may not be that much larger in dimensions than the 7" version if they move the speakers and make better use of the potentially available screen space. Interestingly ASUS already have a 11" notebook in their product range although way more pricey. 4GB of flash disk space is just too small. I'll wait for the 10" version that should have at least double the disk space, even if it costs a couple hundred dollars more it'll be worth it. Are there any specs released on the new 10" version? -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
RE: EeePC
Am Freitag, den 25.01.2008, 09:54 +1000 schrieb Chris Jones: > IMO, the Asus EeePC is simply too small for the price. Considering for less > than $200 extra, you can get a full featured Windows notebook with much > better hardware and more importantly, more screen real estate. > > Obviously, it serves its purpose well being such a small device and all. But > I simply don't think it's worth its $500 for the hardware that's inside. I look at it like this - for $50-100 LESS than the cost of the Nokia N800 (not to mention most PDAs), you get a fully fledged computer. Remember, despite its appearance, the eeePC is NOT a notebook - it's a new type of device that sits between PDAs/tablets and laptops/notebooks. It's therefore more useful to evaluate it against other smaller devices than the bulkier, 'full featured' ones further up the price scale. I was disappointed with the lack of features on internet tablets, and I always found laptops too big, usually requiring an extra bag to carry around. The eeePC addresses both of those problems exceptionally well IMHO. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: EeePC
On 25/01/2008, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, the Asus EeePC is simply too small for the price. Considering for > less > than $200 extra, you can get a full featured Windows notebook with much > better hardware and more importantly, more screen real estate. > > Obviously, it serves its purpose well being such a small device and all. > But > I simply don't think it's worth its $500 for the hardware that's inside. Why compare apples to oranges? The EeePC is great for what it is. No-one has claimed that it is a substitute for a main laptop or desktop. The advantage of its small size is that it is light, readily portable, easily fits into a ladies handbag, is about the same size as a Harry Potter book and introduces its owners to Linux. As to pricing, it is cheap enough but looks even cheaper in American dollars. Cheers > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
>>I read an article in the paper on wed that quoted the eeepc's price as >>$400. is this correct? I think the RRP is $499. I guess its up to the retailer you purchase from as the what price they sell it for. I checked them out at Officeworks last week and they were $499 at that time. Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
>>I read an article in the paper on wed that quoted the eeepc's price as >>$400. is this correct? I think the RRP is $499. I guess it's up to the retailer you purchase from as the what price they sell it for. I checked them out at Officeworks last week and they were $499 at that time. Chris Jones -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: EeePC
I read an article in the paper on wed that quoted the eeepc's price as $400. is this correct? On 1/25/08, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, the Asus EeePC is simply too small for the price. Considering for > less > than $200 extra, you can get a full featured Windows notebook with much > better hardware and more importantly, more screen real estate. > > Obviously, it serves its purpose well being such a small device and all. > But > I simply don't think it's worth its $500 for the hardware that's inside. > > -- > Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- www.peterbaker.id.au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
RE: EeePC
IMO, the Asus EeePC is simply too small for the price. Considering for less than $200 extra, you can get a full featured Windows notebook with much better hardware and more importantly, more screen real estate. Obviously, it serves its purpose well being such a small device and all. But I simply don't think it's worth its $500 for the hardware that's inside. -- Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Les Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The eeePC screen res is 800x480, on a 7" screen. It's small, but that's > the nature of this device - a portable computer that's even more > portable than a laptop. > > Not long ago I heard a rumour (can't remember where) that there was > going to be a model with a 10" screen, but that the idea was scrapped > due to the extra power requirements which would reduce the battery life > to an unacceptably low level. A 10 inch version has been announced by Asus. I would assume that being larger, it can hold a bigger battery. -- "If you don't share your concepts and ideas, they end up being worthless. Sharing is what makes them powerful." - Linus Torvalds signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
Hi, The eeePC screen res is 800x480, on a 7" screen. It's small, but that's the nature of this device - a portable computer that's even more portable than a laptop. Not long ago I heard a rumour (can't remember where) that there was going to be a model with a 10" screen, but that the idea was scrapped due to the extra power requirements which would reduce the battery life to an unacceptably low level. But I find the 7" screen to be quite usable, although you need to remember your keyboard shortcuts to maximise screen real estate eg. F11 in Firefox. My uni-related use will mainly be for web access, reading .pdfs in class and checking over assignments. I might use the eeePC as a 'notebook' but I'm likely to just stick with good old pen and paper for that because I'm such a crappy typist :) I've just got eeeXubuntu installed on my machine and it's working great. I've got / on the SSD with /home and 550MB swap (for hibernation) on a 4GB SDHC card for some extra space. There's a great deal of configuration tips over at www.eeeuser.com if you didn't know already. Am Mittwoch, den 23.01.2008, 16:48 -0800 schrieb Andrew G: > Hi there. > > I have a close friend thinking about getting one. She is concerned > that the screen resolution will be too low (like 640x800). She likes > to view heaps of items simultaneously on her desktop... what is the > resolution like on the eeePC? I haven't seen one yet... may get into > Good Guys today.. I guess I'm wondering what it is like to work on a > PC with a small screen? Especially for things like typing up > assignments.. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
- Original message - From: "Andrew G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:48:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: eeePC Hi there. I have a close friend thinking about getting one. She is concerned that the screen resolution will be too low (like 640x800). She likes to view heaps of items simultaneously on her desktop... what is the resolution like on the eeePC? I haven't seen one yet... may get into Good Guys today.. I guess I'm wondering what it is like to work on a PC with a small screen? Especially for things like typing up assignments.. thanks, Andrew Hi Andrew The eeePC has a very small screen, it is fine for doing things on the run or for short periods in the library or whatever, but can be too small if you need lots of screen real estate. One of the handy features is the monitor out socket .. this last week I have been away from home and had my eeePC hooked up to a CRT monitor at the house I am staying in. It is comfortably running at 1024x768 on the big(ger) screen. Cheers Mark -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
Hi there. I have a close friend thinking about getting one. She is concerned that the screen resolution will be too low (like 640x800). She likes to view heaps of items simultaneously on her desktop... what is the resolution like on the eeePC? I haven't seen one yet... may get into Good Guys today.. I guess I'm wondering what it is like to work on a PC with a small screen? Especially for things like typing up assignments.. thanks, Andrew On 22 Jan, 10:31, Les Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the info, Mark. I've got just a couple more questions. > > Am Dienstag, den 22.01.2008, 09:17 +1100 schrieb Mark M Lambert: > > > You still have to fill out the access form and hand it in at Library > > level 2. Best to do it before session one starts and things get busy. > > As I understand it, when you hand in that form you also make an > appointment with Uniwide, so that they can install a VPN client on your > machine. Obviously, I won't be doing that if I'm running Linux. But do > they need to be told that? What other contact with Uniwide is necessary > besides handing in the form and (presumably) not making a configuration > appointment? I'd want to avoid a situation where Uniwide says 'Oh, he > didn't come back for his appointment. We won't set up his access, then.' > > > I have attached a config file for the > > UNSW VPN, from the network-manager VPN config GUI you can import this > > file. Make sure you override the username with your username > > (student/staff number). > > Thanks, but unfortunately I didn't get the attachment. > > Also, how do you find the bootup time and the battery life on > eeeXubuntu? Basically, I'm looking to get the fastest booting OS with > the longest battery life on the eeePC, but which is still a > fully-fledged desktop. > > Cheers, > Les > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: eeePC
Thanks for the info, Mark. I've got just a couple more questions. Am Dienstag, den 22.01.2008, 09:17 +1100 schrieb Mark M Lambert: > You still have to fill out the access form and hand it in at Library > level 2. Best to do it before session one starts and things get busy. As I understand it, when you hand in that form you also make an appointment with Uniwide, so that they can install a VPN client on your machine. Obviously, I won't be doing that if I'm running Linux. But do they need to be told that? What other contact with Uniwide is necessary besides handing in the form and (presumably) not making a configuration appointment? I'd want to avoid a situation where Uniwide says 'Oh, he didn't come back for his appointment. We won't set up his access, then.' > I have attached a config file for the > UNSW VPN, from the network-manager VPN config GUI you can import this > file. Make sure you override the username with your username > (student/staff number). Thanks, but unfortunately I didn't get the attachment. Also, how do you find the bootup time and the battery life on eeeXubuntu? Basically, I'm looking to get the fastest booting OS with the longest battery life on the eeePC, but which is still a fully-fledged desktop. Cheers, Les -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
