Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Chesterton

On 19/05/2010, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Towner wrote:
> 
> Hi Brett & the rest of the list,
>   Brett, thank you for your comment. It creates the perfect opportunity
> for me to explain my reasoning for proposing Ubuntu-AU BugJams. I
> totally agree that this (a bugjam) is not one of the "prime objectives"
> of a Loco.

I don't agree that supporting ubuntu isn't a prime objective. It's listed in 
the wiki
right next to promote.
The bug jam is a cool idea, I did a bit of triaging years ago. It was fun, but 
challenging because there was a lot of competition to triage the easily
triaged bugs. The bugs left over were much harder. So, getting guidance 
will be great.


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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-19 Thread Mitch Towner
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On 19/05/10 00:56, brett wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
> Mitch Towner  wrote:
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>> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
>> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
>> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
>> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
>> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
>> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
>> the future.
>>
>> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
>> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
>> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
>> different ways.
>>
>> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
>> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
>> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
>> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
>> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
>> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
>> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
>> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
>> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
>> package for a bug report.
>>
>> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
>> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
>> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
>> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
>> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
>> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
>> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
>> specific package.
>>
>> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
>> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>>
>> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
>> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
>> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
>> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
>> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
>> online, etc, etc.
> 
> 
> I understand how this supports Ubuntu, I don't understand how this promotes 
> Ubuntu to the wider, non-Ubuntu community. I think it is a great idea and 
> everyone, regardless of tech-spec, should get involved/be welcomed into the 
> fold, but I don't think it is a prime objective of a LoCo.
> 
> jmo
> 

Hi Brett & the rest of the list,
Brett, thank you for your comment. It creates the perfect opportunity
for me to explain my reasoning for proposing Ubuntu-AU BugJams. I
totally agree that this (a bugjam) is not one of the "prime objectives"
of a Loco. I also understand that this does not promote Ubuntu to the
wider "non-Ubuntu" community. However, that is not really my reason for
proposing that we (as a Loco) participate in BugJams. In the response
from the Loco Council regarding our re-approval application [1] there
were a lot of points made regarding what we need to do better. Amongst
other things, it was noted that current members feel that they are
unable to contribute, the Australian Loco is perceived as being
inactive, there is a waning number of active members, etc. etc.

BugJams will help to address these issues & are also one part of the
team building process that will hopefully start to re-establish our
sense of actually being a Loco Team. The whole idea behind this is to
start working collaboratively as a team. There are a number of other
ideas that were discussed at the last meeting [2] that will also help
with team building.

I feel that once we can start successfully working together as a team
within the Ubuntu Community we will be in a better position to
collaboratively promote Ubuntu to the wider Australian community (which
definitely is one of the prime objectives of a Loco). These proposed
BugJams are important as they will truly help Ubuntu, however they are
also part of a bigger plan to help this Loco to get "back on track". I
hope this explanation helps people to better understand the reasoning
behind these BugJams & other team building exercises that will hopefully
be happening in the near future.

Kind Regards,
Mitch Towner


[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2010-May/006166.html
[2] http://is.gd/cfJR9
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-18 Thread Chris Martin
I'm interested
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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, MoLE  wrote:

> Count me in for the bug jam
>
> On 5/19/10, brett  wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
> > Mitch Towner  wrote:
> >
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> >> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
> >> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
> >> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
> >> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
> >> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
> >> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
> >> the future.
> >>
> >> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
> >> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
> >> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
> >> different ways.
> >>
> >> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
> >> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
> >> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
> >> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
> >> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
> >> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
> >> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
> >> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
> >> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
> >> package for a bug report.
> >>
> >> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
> >> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
> >> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
> >> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
> >> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
> >> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
> >> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
> >> specific package.
> >>
> >> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
> >> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
> >>
> >> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
> >> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
> >> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
> >> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
> >> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
> >> online, etc, etc.
> >
> >
> > I understand how this supports Ubuntu, I don't understand how this
> promotes
> > Ubuntu to the wider, non-Ubuntu community. I think it is a great idea and
> > everyone, regardless of tech-spec, should get involved/be welcomed into
> the
> > fold, but I don't think it is a prime objective of a LoCo.
> >
> > jmo
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-18 Thread MoLE
Count me in for the bug jam

On 5/19/10, brett  wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
> Mitch Towner  wrote:
>
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>> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
>> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
>> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
>> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
>> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
>> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
>> the future.
>>
>> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
>> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
>> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
>> different ways.
>>
>> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
>> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
>> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
>> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
>> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
>> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
>> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
>> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
>> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
>> package for a bug report.
>>
>> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
>> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
>> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
>> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
>> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
>> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
>> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
>> specific package.
>>
>> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
>> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>>
>> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
>> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
>> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
>> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
>> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
>> online, etc, etc.
>
>
> I understand how this supports Ubuntu, I don't understand how this promotes
> Ubuntu to the wider, non-Ubuntu community. I think it is a great idea and
> everyone, regardless of tech-spec, should get involved/be welcomed into the
> fold, but I don't think it is a prime objective of a LoCo.
>
> jmo
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-18 Thread brett
On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
Mitch Towner  wrote:

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> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
> the future.
> 
> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
> different ways.
> 
> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
> package for a bug report.
> 
> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
> specific package.
> 
> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
> 
> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
> online, etc, etc.


I understand how this supports Ubuntu, I don't understand how this promotes 
Ubuntu to the wider, non-Ubuntu community. I think it is a great idea and 
everyone, regardless of tech-spec, should get involved/be welcomed into the 
fold, but I don't think it is a prime objective of a LoCo.

jmo

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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-18 Thread Dale
On 17 May 2010 23:29, Mitch Towner  wrote:
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> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
> the future.
>
> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
> different ways.
>
> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
> package for a bug report.
>
> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
> specific package.
>
> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>
> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
> online, etc, etc.
>
>
>
> [1]     https://launchpad.net/
> [2]     http://is.gd/bWXr8
> [3]     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
> [4]     http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-bugs
> [5]     https://bugs.launchpad.net/
> [6]     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
> [7]     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
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I have funny feeling I might be the only SA based person atm, but
count me in :-)

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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-18 Thread James Beake
Count me in.

James

On 17 May 2010 23:59, Mitch Towner  wrote:

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> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
> the future.
>
> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
> different ways.
>
> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
> package for a bug report.
>
> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
> specific package.
>
> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>
> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
> online, etc, etc.
>
>
>
> [1] https://launchpad.net/
> [2] http://is.gd/bWXr8
> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
> [4] http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-bugs
> [5] https://bugs.launchpad.net/
> [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
> [7] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-17 Thread bwright
As I said at the meeting I am up for any bug triage day.

On May 18, 1:35 pm, Peter Watts  wrote:
> I also have an interest in Bugs. Joined the Bug squad but find it difficult
> to get started. A team environment should help with this.
>
> On 18 May 2010 06:41, Paul Gear  wrote:
>
> > On 18/05/10 00:22, Jared Norris wrote:
>
> >> On 18 May 2010 00:13, Ryan Macnish  wrote:
>
> >>> Im certainly interested in this idea, its easy to do, helps ubuntu out,
> >>> and
> >>> helps the ubuntu-au members to get to know each other. Although iv never
> >>> triaged a bug before, im willing to give it a shot and help others in the
> >>> process.
> >>> Ryan Macnish
>
>  ...
>
>  A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
>  assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
>  assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
>  triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
>  a package)&  assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
>  there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
>  great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
>  helpful&  friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
>  who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
>  package for a bug report.
>  ...
>
>  More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
>  Knowledge Base [6]&  the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>
>  For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
>  reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
>  interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
>  date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
>  who are local should meet face-to-face&  have everyone collaborate
>  online, etc, etc.
>  ...
>
> >> Sounds like a great idea. I would definitely be interested in this
> >> sort of activity, work roster permitting (I'm a shift worker).
>
> > This is a good proposal.  That is something else i think local meetings
> > would be good for!
>
> > Paul
>
> > P.S. Jared: yes, i would consider your place fairly central, although
> > Northsiders may not, and parking might be an issue if you want to keep your
> > lawn...  ;-)
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-17 Thread Peter Watts
I also have an interest in Bugs. Joined the Bug squad but find it difficult
to get started. A team environment should help with this.

On 18 May 2010 06:41, Paul Gear  wrote:

> On 18/05/10 00:22, Jared Norris wrote:
>
>> On 18 May 2010 00:13, Ryan Macnish  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Im certainly interested in this idea, its easy to do, helps ubuntu out,
>>> and
>>> helps the ubuntu-au members to get to know each other. Although iv never
>>> triaged a bug before, im willing to give it a shot and help others in the
>>> process.
>>> Ryan Macnish
>>>
>>>
>>>
 ...


 A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
 assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
 assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
 triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
 a package)&  assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
 there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
 great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
 helpful&  friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
 who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
 package for a bug report.
 ...

 More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
 Knowledge Base [6]&  the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].

 For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
 reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
 interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
 date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
 who are local should meet face-to-face&  have everyone collaborate
 online, etc, etc.
 ...

>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a great idea. I would definitely be interested in this
>> sort of activity, work roster permitting (I'm a shift worker).
>>
>>
>
> This is a good proposal.  That is something else i think local meetings
> would be good for!
>
> Paul
>
> P.S. Jared: yes, i would consider your place fairly central, although
> Northsiders may not, and parking might be an issue if you want to keep your
> lawn...  ;-)
>
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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Gear

On 18/05/10 00:22, Jared Norris wrote:

On 18 May 2010 00:13, Ryan Macnish  wrote:
   

Im certainly interested in this idea, its easy to do, helps ubuntu out, and
helps the ubuntu-au members to get to know each other. Although iv never
triaged a bug before, im willing to give it a shot and help others in the
process.
Ryan Macnish

 

...

A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
a package)&  assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
helpful&  friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
package for a bug report.
...
More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
Knowledge Base [6]&  the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].

For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
who are local should meet face-to-face&  have everyone collaborate
online, etc, etc.
...
 


Sounds like a great idea. I would definitely be interested in this
sort of activity, work roster permitting (I'm a shift worker).
   


This is a good proposal.  That is something else i think local meetings 
would be good for!


Paul

P.S. Jared: yes, i would consider your place fairly central, although 
Northsiders may not, and parking might be an issue if you want to keep 
your lawn...  ;-)


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Re: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-17 Thread Jared Norris
On 18 May 2010 00:13, Ryan Macnish  wrote:
> Im certainly interested in this idea, its easy to do, helps ubuntu out, and
> helps the ubuntu-au members to get to know each other. Although iv never
> triaged a bug before, im willing to give it a shot and help others in the
> process.
> Ryan Macnish
>
>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
>> From: mitch.towner.ubu...@gmail.com
>> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams
>>
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>> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
>> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
>> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
>> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
>> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
>> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
>> the future.
>>
>> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
>> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
>> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
>> different ways.
>>
>> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
>> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
>> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
>> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
>> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
>> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
>> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
>> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
>> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
>> package for a bug report.
>>
>> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
>> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
>> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
>> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
>> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
>> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
>> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
>> specific package.
>>
>> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
>> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
>>
>> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
>> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
>> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
>> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
>> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
>> online, etc, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://launchpad.net/
>> [2] http://is.gd/bWXr8
>> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
>> [4] http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-bugs
>> [5] https://bugs.launchpad.net/
>> [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
>> [7] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
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Sounds like a great idea. I would definitely be interested in this
sort of activity, work roster permitting (I'm a shift worker).

Regards,

Jared Norris

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RE: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams

2010-05-17 Thread Ryan Macnish

Im certainly interested in this idea, its easy to do, helps ubuntu out, and 
helps the ubuntu-au members to get to know each other. Although iv never 
triaged a bug before, im willing to give it a shot and help others in the 
process.
Ryan Macnish

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:59:34 +1000
> From: mitch.towner.ubu...@gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Proposal - Ubuntu-AU BugJams
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> In the IRC meeting it was agreed that we need to work together
> collaboratively. One thing that we can do together is have an online
> BugJam. This basically entails working together as a team on helping to
> improve bug reports in Ubuntu's bug tracker - Launchpad [1]. If there is
> enough interest/participation, Ubuntu-AU BugJams would initially be
> every 2 months with the possibility or changing it to once a month in
> the future.
> 
> Many "not-so-technically-minded" people tend to shy away from this idea,
> however it is actually easier to help out than it sounds! The whole idea
> of "bug triage" is to improve bug reports. This can be performed in many
> different ways.
> 
> A *large* percentage of the bugs triagers have to deal with are not
> assigned to the right package - a fair number do not have any package
> assigned to them at all! One of the easiest ways to get involved in bug
> triage is to simply look at [2] (a list of bugs that are not assigned to
> a package) & assigning the bug report to the right package. Currently
> there are 3165 bugs that need to be assigned to the right package. A
> great resource that helps with this is [3]. There are also plenty of
> helpful & friendly people in the #ubuntu-bugs IRC channel channel [4]
> who are willing to offer assistance with trying to find the correct
> package for a bug report.
> 
> Another way that people who are new to bug triage can help out is by
> confirming bugs are still valid by trying to reproduce them with the
> latest version of the package that the bug is reported against. A good
> way to get started with confirming bug reports is to focus on a package
> that you are familiar with. Try to reproduce bug reports filed against
> an older version of the package to see if the issue still exists in the
> latest version of the package. Go to [5] to search for bugs in a
> specific package.
> 
> More detailed Bug Triage information can be found in the Bug Squad
> Knowledge Base [6] & the "How to Triage" wiki page [7].
> 
> For those interested in participating in an Ubuntu-AU BugJam, please
> reply to this list. Once we get an idea of the number of people
> interested in participating, we can organise finer details such as a
> date, if an online "how to triage" class would be beneficial, if people
> who are local should meet face-to-face & have everyone collaborate
> online, etc, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> [1]   https://launchpad.net/
> [2]   http://is.gd/bWXr8
> [3]   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
> [4]   http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-bugs
> [5]   https://bugs.launchpad.net/
> [6]   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
> [7]   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
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