Re: spam (was Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?)

2008-04-23 Thread Tim Neill
Agreed.

As for the real topic, I dont think the 901 will do as well as the 701,
mainly due to stiff competition at that price bracket. I just saw a fully
featured Acer notebook running Vista [albeit poorly] for around AUD$550.
Celeron 1.6ghz if i remember correctly.


On 23/04/2008, martin fricke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It wasn't spam. Somebody's been working too hard in their business and
> needs to take a few deep breaths.
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:21:10 +1000, Dave Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:55 +1000, Gabriel Noronha wrote:
> >
> >> "btw this is not prior commercial communication, so it doesn't give you
> >> an out for spamming me again the future."
> >>  Someone has gotten bored and read the anti-spam act. :P
> >
> > Not bored, I run a business, and so I need to be aware of my legal
> > obligations, so I can cover my arse.  Knowing the act also makes it
> > handy when you want report spam to ACMA - see
> > http://submit.spam.acma.gov.au/acma_submit.cgi :P
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Dave
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Re: spam (was Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?)

2008-04-23 Thread martin fricke
It wasn't spam. Somebody's been working too hard in their business and  
needs to take a few deep breaths.



On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:21:10 +1000, Dave Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:55 +1000, Gabriel Noronha wrote:
>
>> "btw this is not prior commercial communication, so it doesn't give you
>> an out for spamming me again the future."
>>  Someone has gotten bored and read the anti-spam act. :P
>
> Not bored, I run a business, and so I need to be aware of my legal
> obligations, so I can cover my arse.  Knowing the act also makes it
> handy when you want report spam to ACMA - see
> http://submit.spam.acma.gov.au/acma_submit.cgi :P
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave

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spam (was Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?)

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:55 +1000, Gabriel Noronha wrote:

> "btw this is not prior commercial communication, so it doesn't give you
> an out for spamming me again the future."
>  Someone has gotten bored and read the anti-spam act. :P 

Not bored, I run a business, and so I need to be aware of my legal
obligations, so I can cover my arse.  Knowing the act also makes it
handy when you want report spam to ACMA - see
http://submit.spam.acma.gov.au/acma_submit.cgi :P

Cheers

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Gabriel Noronha

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 18:06 +1000, Scott McKean wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> > Blatant spam in my book.  I won't consider purchasing anything from you
> > _ever_!  If in doubt leave it out.  btw this is not prior commercial
> > communication, so it doesn't give you an out for spamming me again the
> > future.
> 
> Sebastian asked where it could be sourced, I don't know of another shop
> in .au that is selling / will be selling them online otherwise I would
> have included a link them as well. My intention was to help, not to drum
> up business.
> 
> I certainly will 'leave it out' in future.

I want to agree with this he (original poster) did directly ask about
online retailers. 

And where people brought there EEEpc from i would me more upset if the
retailer posted that he brought him for company X and they are really
good and it ended up being himself. It was a honest blatant plug. 

It wasn't blatant spam, as it wasn't completely unsolicited. 

Anyway just my 2c

"btw this is not prior commercial communication, so it doesn't give you
an out for spamming me again the future."
 Someone has gotten bored and read the anti-spam act. :P 

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Sebastian Spiess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If the Asus eee pc 900 is going to be priced at $900 the only thing that 
> makes it different from other laptops is that it is smaller than a 
> conventional laptop.
> 
> In my view, the 701 model will be remembered in the history books 
> because it was inexpensive, performed all the tasks that were currently 
> technologically possible and came closest to the OLPS (one laptop per 
> child) concept.
> 
> I am heartened that I live in these interesting times.
> 
> Andre
> 

so true,

if the 900 model comes close to cheap DELL notebooks it will loose one of the 
major pro arguments, the price and what you 
get for.

Of course everyone wants to see the new model offering more but will it still 
be the geeky portable bargain?

On the other side we can hope for a price drop on the old models

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread andremangan
>
> One wholesaler has the RRP listed for them at 649AUD, I think some
> retailers might be price gouging.  The same wholesaler is also giving an
> ETA of 18 days for the 900.



That seems more sustainable.

I doubt though that I will ever be able to persuade my wife to give up her
701 eee pc.  One added benefit not often publicised is that, in her case, it
got her to using Linux more often; surely others are in that same position.

I would be interested in knowing who this retailer is, Dave, just in case.
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 18:17 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If the Asus eee pc 900 is going to be priced at $900 the only thing
> that makes it different from other laptops is that it is smaller than
> a conventional laptop.

One wholesaler has the RRP listed for them at 649AUD, I think some
retailers might be price gouging.  The same wholesaler is also giving an
ETA of 18 days for the 900.

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread andremangan
If the Asus eee pc 900 is going to be priced at $900 the only thing that
makes it different from other laptops is that it is smaller than a
conventional laptop.

In my view, the 701 model will be remembered in the history books because it
was inexpensive, performed all the tasks that were currently technologically
possible and came closest to the OLPS (one laptop per child) concept.

I am heartened that I live in these interesting times.

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread andremangan
>
> > No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide
> > warranty,
> > the eee pc isn't one of them
>
> >
> > While the warranty states that  "If service is required: You can
> > contact your local reseller ... or Asus service site in your country",
> > at the back of the warranty booklet it says: " Asus does not provide
> > the warranty service outside of the country you bought the Eee PC".
> >
>
> And you will find that it is later which is enforced by ASUS.


That is not disputed.

> By the way folks, it was not Grace Brothers but Myers that had the
> original franchise.

Until 2004 Myer was Grace Brothers in NSW/ACT.  Just like many people
> still call the Monash Fwy in Melbourne the South Eastern, quality old
> brands die hard.


True.  Thanks for letting me off the hook, Dave.
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Scott McKean
Dave,

> Blatant spam in my book.  I won't consider purchasing anything from you
> _ever_!  If in doubt leave it out.  btw this is not prior commercial
> communication, so it doesn't give you an out for spamming me again the
> future.

Sebastian asked where it could be sourced, I don't know of another shop
in .au that is selling / will be selling them online otherwise I would
have included a link them as well. My intention was to help, not to drum
up business.

I certainly will 'leave it out' in future.

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Hall
Resending from the right address - mods feel free to delete pending message

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 17:38 +1000, Scott McKean wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> For those who are interested, we are currently selling the Asus Eee-PC
> 701 4G at our online store.
> 
> We also plan to sell the Eee-PC 900 when it is released in Australia in
> mid May. We can take details and contact you when it is ready to ship.
> It sounds like a nice improvement on the 701, and I'm anxious
> to get my hands on it for a test run. At this point in time, shipping
> dates and final prices haven't been confirmed, so I'm afraid that I
> can't spill all the beans.
> 
> 
> I wasn't sure if this should be sent to the list or private, please let
> me know if I've done the wrong thing.
> 

Blatant spam in my book.  I won't consider purchasing anything from you
_ever_!  If in doubt leave it out.  btw this is not prior commercial
communication, so it doesn't give you an out for spamming me again the
future.


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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:59 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide
> warranty,
> the eee pc isn't one of them.  This is a problem if you take
> your
> Australian eee pc overseas on a trip and it dies.
> 
> Remember the eee pc might have become a Linux geek must have
> toy, but
> ASUS's marketing dept doesn't see it this way.  The original
> market is
> education, school kids are unlikely to need a global warranty.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> While the warranty states that  "If service is required: You can
> contact your local reseller ... or Asus service site in your country",
> at the back of the warranty booklet it says: " Asus does not provide
> the warranty service outside of the country you bought the Eee PC".
> 

And you will find that it is later which is enforced by ASUS.

> By the way folks, it was not Grace Brothers but Myers that had the
> original franchise.

Until 2004 Myer was Grace Brothers in NSW/ACT.  Just like many people
still call the Monash Fwy in Melbourne the South Eastern, quality old
brands die hard.

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 17:38 +1000, Scott McKean wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> For those who are interested, we are currently selling the Asus Eee-PC
> 701 4G at our online store.
> 
> We also plan to sell the Eee-PC 900 when it is released in Australia in
> mid May. We can take details and contact you when it is ready to ship.
> It sounds like a nice improvement on the 701, and I'm anxious
> to get my hands on it for a test run. At this point in time, shipping
> dates and final prices haven't been confirmed, so I'm afraid that I
> can't spill all the beans.
> 
> 
> I wasn't sure if this should be sent to the list or private, please let
> me know if I've done the wrong thing.
> 

Blatant spam in my book.  I won't consider purchasing anything from you
_ever_!  If in doubt leave it out.  btw this is not prior commercial
communication, so it doesn't give you an out for spamming me again the
future.

> 
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> Office: +61 3 9329 9670
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> 
> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 11:40 +1000, Sebastian wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I've read on a new site that the upcoming Eee-PC 900 will sell for 549
> > US$ starting on 12. May.
> > 
> > Both Windows and Linux version will have the _same_ price BUT the
> > linux version will have 20GB SSD instead of 12GB!
> > 
> > Does anyone know where I can get one once they reach Australia? Where
> > did you buy your current EEE? I've did some searching and there are
> > not many online shops arround, maybe I was a bit blind though...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-23 Thread Scott McKean
Hi all,


For those who are interested, we are currently selling the Asus Eee-PC
701 4G at our online store.

We also plan to sell the Eee-PC 900 when it is released in Australia in
mid May. We can take details and contact you when it is ready to ship.
It sounds like a nice improvement on the 701, and I'm anxious
to get my hands on it for a test run. At this point in time, shipping
dates and final prices haven't been confirmed, so I'm afraid that I
can't spill all the beans.


I wasn't sure if this should be sent to the list or private, please let
me know if I've done the wrong thing.


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On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 11:40 +1000, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've read on a new site that the upcoming Eee-PC 900 will sell for 549
> US$ starting on 12. May.
> 
> Both Windows and Linux version will have the _same_ price BUT the
> linux version will have 20GB SSD instead of 12GB!
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get one once they reach Australia? Where
> did you buy your current EEE? I've did some searching and there are
> not many online shops arround, maybe I was a bit blind though...



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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:52 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  Dave Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Warranty is issued by the manufacturer, Asus.   Not the retailer.
> You
> > > do need proof of purchase i.e. date of purchase.  Warranty is
> > > worldwide and can be accessed in whatever country you live in
> > > irrespective of place of purchase.
> > 
> > No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide
> warranty,
> > the eee pc isn't one of them.  This is a problem if you take your
> > Australian eee pc overseas on a trip and it dies.
> > 
> > Remember the eee pc might have become a Linux geek must have toy,
> but
> > ASUS's marketing dept doesn't see it this way.  The original market
> is
> > education, school kids are unlikely to need a global warranty.
> 
> So it's as I thought originally - if you buy an EEE from the US, and
> you want to claim on the warranty, you will have to do that through
> ASUS USA. And that means sending your EEE to them, regardless of where
> in the world you happen to be...

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread andremangan
No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide warranty,
> the eee pc isn't one of them.  This is a problem if you take your
> Australian eee pc overseas on a trip and it dies.
>
> Remember the eee pc might have become a Linux geek must have toy, but
> ASUS's marketing dept doesn't see it this way.  The original market is
> education, school kids are unlikely to need a global warranty.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave


While the warranty states that  "If service is required: You can contact
your local reseller ... or Asus service site in your country", at the back
of the warranty booklet it says: " Asus does not provide the warranty
service outside of the country you bought the Eee PC".

By the way folks, it was not Grace Brothers but Myers that had the original
franchise.
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Dave Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Warranty is issued by the manufacturer, Asus.   Not the retailer.  You
> > do need proof of purchase i.e. date of purchase.  Warranty is
> > worldwide and can be accessed in whatever country you live in
> > irrespective of place of purchase.
> 
> No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide warranty,
> the eee pc isn't one of them.  This is a problem if you take your
> Australian eee pc overseas on a trip and it dies.
> 
> Remember the eee pc might have become a Linux geek must have toy, but
> ASUS's marketing dept doesn't see it this way.  The original market is
> education, school kids are unlikely to need a global warranty.

So it's as I thought originally - if you buy an EEE from the US, and you want 
to claim on the warranty, you will have to do that through ASUS USA. And that 
means sending your EEE to them, regardless of where in the world you happen to 
be...

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Wouldn't there be an issue with the warranty if you buy from
> the US, or anywhere else overseas? You'd be covered, but
> because the place of purchase is overseas, you'd need to send
> the item back overseas if you had to make a claim. Very costly
> and time consuming, plus there's the risk of having yor item
> lost in transit.
> 
> 
> Warranty is issued by the manufacturer, Asus.   Not the retailer.  You
> do need proof of purchase i.e. date of purchase.  Warranty is
> worldwide and can be accessed in whatever country you live in
> irrespective of place of purchase.

No it isn't.  Many of ASUS's notebooks come with a worldwide warranty,
the eee pc isn't one of them.  This is a problem if you take your
Australian eee pc overseas on a trip and it dies.

Remember the eee pc might have become a Linux geek must have toy, but
ASUS's marketing dept doesn't see it this way.  The original market is
education, school kids are unlikely to need a global warranty.

Cheers

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread Cefiar
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 12:44:59 David Whyte wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Sebastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >  I've read on a new site that the upcoming Eee-PC 900 will sell for 549
> >  US$ starting on 12. May.
>
> The 900 model hasn't been released in AU yet.  It is the one with the
> 9" screen I believe and the reports I read had it scheduled for a May
> release date here.

The difference from the 701 is pretty simple:
 Bigger screen (8.9")
 Higher res (1024x600)
 More ram (1GB)
 More disk (20GB if you buy with Linux)

> I don't know what the price is, but I would rather 
> wait for the (hoped) Atom powered EeePC, which should be here in a
> couple of months too :)

>From what I understand, after talking to a number of industry people, while an 
Atom version is coming, I wouldn't expect it in the next couple of months. 
IMO, it'll be at least 4+ months, if not longer.

Personally, the thing that was stopping me buying a 701 was the disk space. 
I've got a LOT of mail, and it just wouldn't fit in the approx 900 meg you 
have free after installing like eeeXubuntu on a 701 (4GB). And the whole 
point for me was so that I had something lightweight with all my mail on it, 
a web browser, and a few other useful tools (eg: ssh, kismet, an IM client, 
etc).

Now the only thing stopping me from buying one is the fact that they're not 
yet available here. :(

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread andremangan
>
> Wouldn't there be an issue with the warranty if you buy from the US, or
> anywhere else overseas? You'd be covered, but because the place of purchase
> is overseas, you'd need to send the item back overseas if you had to make a
> claim. Very costly and time consuming, plus there's the risk of having yor
> item lost in transit.
>


Warranty is issued by the manufacturer, Asus.   Not the retailer.  You do
need proof of purchase i.e. date of purchase.  Warranty is worldwide and can
be accessed in whatever country you live in irrespective of place of
purchase.
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

> That could well be the case ... applicable to items over a certain value.
> 
> It may still be the most effective, as well as cost-effective way of getting
> the new Eee PC.
> 
> Ring the Australian Customs Service and ask them.
> 
> You might even be able to buy one from Asus direct ... they are just up the
> road, you know.  Saves sending it to the US first.
> 
> Think outside of the box.
> 
> Andre

Wouldn't there be an issue with the warranty if you buy from the US, or 
anywhere else overseas? You'd be covered, but because the place of purchase is 
overseas, you'd need to send the item back overseas if you had to make a claim. 
Very costly and time consuming, plus there's the risk of having yor item lost 
in transit.


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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread David Whyte
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Sebastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  I've read on a new site that the upcoming Eee-PC 900 will sell for 549
>  US$ starting on 12. May.
>


The 900 model hasn't been released in AU yet.  It is the one with the
9" screen I believe and the reports I read had it scheduled for a May
release date here.  I don't know what the price is, but I would rather
wait for the (hoped) Atom powered EeePC, which should be here in a
couple of months too :)

Regards,
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread andremangan
Be careful of that idea, Items over a certain particular value will be
> stopped by customs and GST/Taxes charged to you before it's released
> to you.
>
> I've had this happen before with an order from thinkgeek...



That could well be the case ... applicable to items over a certain value.

It may still be the most effective, as well as cost-effective way of getting
the new Eee PC.

Ring the Australian Customs Service and ask them.

You might even be able to buy one from Asus direct ... they are just up the
road, you know.  Saves sending it to the US first.

Think outside of the box.

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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread Senectus .
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> 2008/4/23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> >  On Wed Apr 23 11:40 , Sebastian  sent:
> >
> > >Does anyone know where I can get one once they reach Australia? Where
> > >did you buy your current EEE? I've did some searching and there are
> > >not many online shops arround, maybe I was a bit blind though...
>
> When they first came out in Australia, Grace Brothers had the exclusive
> rights and that is where I bought one.  After that other stores also got to
> sell them and there was a minuscule reduction in price.
>
> Given the current exchange rate the best idea would be to buy it in the US
> (no GST).
>

Be careful of that idea, Items over a certain particular value will be
stopped by customs and GST/Taxes charged to you before it's released
to you.

I've had this happen before with an order from thinkgeek...



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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread andremangan
2008/4/23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
>  On Wed Apr 23 11:40 , Sebastian  sent:
> >Does anyone know where I can get one once they reach Australia? Where
> >did you buy your current EEE? I've did some searching and there are
> >not many online shops arround, maybe I was a bit blind though...
>

When they first came out in Australia, Grace Brothers had the exclusive
rights and that is where I bought one.  After that other stores also got to
sell them and there was a minuscule reduction in price.

Given the current exchange rate the best idea would be to buy it in the US
(no GST).

Andre
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Re: Eee-PC 900 in AU?

2008-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed Apr 23 11:40 , Sebastian  sent:
>Does anyone know where I can get one once they reach Australia? Where
>did you buy your current EEE? I've did some searching and there are
>not many online shops arround, maybe I was a bit blind though...

I don't know about online stores, but I know they were in every single JB HiFi 
and WOW Sight and Sound catalogue I've seen for the last 6 months here in 
Brisbane.  Often on the front page too.

-Dan

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