Re: Lets revise and regroup
On 13/05/2010, at 4:29 PM, Scott Evans wrote: Ok as most of you would be aware the current status of the ubuntu-au loco. As a result of this news there has been some pointers on how to path the way forward to regain the loco status. This gives us the opportunity to review the current plan of how the loco was being run to now how it will be run in the future. I believe you are flogging a dead horse. A while ago now, I first heard the phrase the vocal minority, I thought it was pretty clever at the time. Now it gets used whenever a groups leadership is challenged. You see, apparently ubuntu-au locos downfall wasn't the responsibility of the leadership, but the fault of the vocal minority. But you won't find that said anywhere logged. If you speak up, you are labeled a vocal minority, a trouble maker, someone to watch out for, a kook. It's coded, been down for years, let it rest in peace. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Lets revise and regroup
I believe you are flogging a dead horse. Well yes I may be, but I still wish to try... A while ago now, I first heard the phrase the vocal minority, I thought it was pretty clever at the time. Now it gets used whenever a groups leadership is challenged. You see, apparently ubuntu-au locos downfall wasn't the responsibility of the leadership, but the fault of the vocal minority. But you won't find that said anywhere logged. Well this is possible however I feel that the for a group to exist there needs to be healthy discussion, this has been lacking within the -au team for some time. As was clearly the case with Andrews proposal, some were very quick to criticise but not put up an alternative to discuss, instead chose to simply attempt to make the whole debate a slanging match. This is why I believe the whole process broke down. If you speak up, you are labeled a vocal minority, a trouble maker, someone to watch out for, a kook. Well I have been called a lot worse over the years! ;-) It's coded, been down for years, let it rest in peace. No lets attempt to make something worthy of it so the previous work has essentially not all been for nothing. Scott Evans VK7HSE Phone: +61362291658 Mobile: +61417586157 Skype: vk7hse sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org PGP/GPG Key ID 2B8CA152 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Lets revise and regroup
On 14/05/2010, at 9:51 AM, Scott Evans wrote: No lets attempt to make something worthy of it so the previous work has essentially not all been for nothing. If I were you, I would get an irc meeting organised for next week. In the past they've used a web service to poll for the most popular date and time. ie don't just say we should have a meeting, step up and organise one. If I were you, I would add to the agenda if not already there (from the re-approval email) Things you can do which can improve the team include:- * Nominate team leadership * Consider revising your IRC channel structure * Holding regular meetings * Perhaps members could rotate roles within the team If i were you, I would take the bull by the horns, and define a structure for the team leadership before the meeting and add it to the agenda to be discussed at the meeting. Try to get a consensus for the structure and advertise the vacant positions on the list. If that can't be done in a reasonable time frame, ask Jono for help. Me? I'm waiting for my phone to charge so I can go out riding, it's at 98%. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
